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Meath Under 20'S 2023

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No-one mentions the centre back from skryne, has always played well and looks physically strong.

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 937 - 20/04/2023 10:53:27    2471913

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "It is an average Dublin team."
An average team who are favourites to win the All Ireland with the bookies.

Maestro (Meath) - Posts: 584 - 20/04/2023 11:12:40    2471921

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "No-one mentions the centre back from skryne, has always played well and looks physically strong."
I called him as being a boltet for Sunday. Very good player, kept carrying the fight to Dublin and driving at them. Starting at 6 for Skryne last year. I think he should be brought in and around the senio4 panel even if he's still underage next year. Started at 6 in the minor all Ireland in 21.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 20/04/2023 12:21:16    2471941

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "To be fair I think that is the plan for next year as was laid out a couple of years ago."
Alright didnt realise that.cheers for the information.

Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 294 - 20/04/2023 12:22:12    2471942

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Replying To bert09:  "One of the main reasons for failing to progress from U17 to U20 is down to drink"
While certainly can be a factor it's hardly exclusive to Meath.Its the same for every county in the country so dont think you can use it as an excuse.

Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 294 - 20/04/2023 12:26:19    2471943

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Agree with that. I do think that is the plan."
Yes was pointed by another poster.I didnt know but cheers for the reply l.

Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 294 - 20/04/2023 12:28:21    2471944

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Replying To Maestro:  "An average team who are favourites to win the All Ireland with the bookies."
What is your point here ? They are favorites to win the all ireland? So that makes them a brilliant team?

From the teams I have seen so far which includes Meath and the teams left in the competition such as Dublin Kerry Sligo and Kildare I don't see any outstanding team .

From what I have seen so far this years u20 standard nowhere near the standard of the past few years so yes I do believe this Dublin team is only an average team but that may be good enough to win an average standard u20 All Ireland

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 20/04/2023 12:31:03    2471946

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Replying To Proudroyal:  "Yes was pointed by another poster.I didnt know but cheers for the reply l."
No problem

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/04/2023 15:47:16    2471989

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "What is your point here ? They are favorites to win the all ireland? So that makes them a brilliant team?

From the teams I have seen so far which includes Meath and the teams left in the competition such as Dublin Kerry Sligo and Kildare I don't see any outstanding team .

From what I have seen so far this years u20 standard nowhere near the standard of the past few years so yes I do believe this Dublin team is only an average team but that may be good enough to win an average standard u20 All Ireland"
Don't forget Down & Derry still there aswell.
Down have seemingly been very impressive in their 2 games so far and Derry have a lot of their all ireland winning minor team of 2020.

FairRoyal71 (Meath) - Posts: 13 - 21/04/2023 21:24:25    2472289

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Replying To Proudroyal:  "While certainly can be a factor it's hardly exclusive to Meath.Its the same for every county in the country so dont think you can use it as an excuse."
U17 to U20 = transition from amateur to professional.

Meath continue to struggle in pro era unfortunately.

bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1807 - 22/04/2023 09:10:47    2472324

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Replying To bert09:  "U17 to U20 = transition from amateur to professional.

Meath continue to struggle in pro era unfortunately."
You are on the money there…..I have been saying it for years…it's been a problem since the minor team of Joe Sheridan, Brian Farrell and Frankie Murphy got to the Minor final (2002 I think) and were destroyed by Kildare three years later. But nobody seems to care. Arrest that fall off in form and a lot of ills will be cured.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 22/04/2023 11:41:38    2472353

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Replying To MillerX:  "You are on the money there…..I have been saying it for years…it's been a problem since the minor team of Joe Sheridan, Brian Farrell and Frankie Murphy got to the Minor final (2002 I think) and were destroyed by Kildare three years later. But nobody seems to care. Arrest that fall off in form and a lot of ills will be cured."
lack of a Central Figure or body who are responsible for a Cohesive and Detailed approach to bringing Players through the "pathway" . The theory is we have All the Documents and the pamplets and even the right structures in place so that on the Surface we "tick all the boxes" ...the reality is , we lack the very thing that is crucial to making it work right...quality people who understand how much beyond "talent" is needed to transition young players through to a high Inter county Standard ....while i have my differences with COR on how he sees himself & the world around him, I have sympathy with him & each of the last few Senior Manager as they are at the End of the conveyor belt...and we are expecting them to fix something that is "not working properly" long before it comes to them

Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 401 - 22/04/2023 14:16:05    2472390

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Replying To Maestro:  "An average team who are favourites to win the All Ireland with the bookies."
Well they ain't favourites for the All Ireland any more. As I said. This Dublin side were an average team.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 25/04/2023 21:41:58    2473849

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Replying To Maestro:  "An average team who are favourites to win the All Ireland with the bookies."
They aint favorites for the All Ireland any more ... As I said this Dublin 20s team were an average team.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 26/04/2023 09:52:47    2473882

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "They aint favorites for the All Ireland any more ... As I said this Dublin 20s team were an average team."
Average yes, but what does that make Meath then? Worse than average? Kildare looked a far more aggressive, skillful and well coached team than Meath.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 26/04/2023 10:12:24    2473887

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Replying To MillerX:  "You are on the money there…..I have been saying it for years…it's been a problem since the minor team of Joe Sheridan, Brian Farrell and Frankie Murphy got to the Minor final (2002 I think) and were destroyed by Kildare three years later. But nobody seems to care. Arrest that fall off in form and a lot of ills will be cured."
Meaths problem is more fundamental. Everywhere I read,"the players are not there". The question should be, WHY? We need to look at the structures in place, starting at the clubs. Player Pathways are there to develop the skills and the person. Unfortunately, most coaches won't/can't use them. Who are coaching the young players? Fathers? The parent who wants to make sure their child is at the centre of the team. I ask you to look at your club juvenile section. How many of the coaches are parents of the players in the team? Have a look at the county juvenile coaches! How many parents are there coaching there children? Look at other county backroom staff, very different set up. An audit of club and county coaching needs to be done ASAP. Then put a plan together to improve the standard of coaching. We also need to unite as a county. STOP this football v hurling. We are one county! Fix the Fundamentals!

TownJohnT (Meath) - Posts: 86 - 26/04/2023 10:30:08    2473898

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "Average yes, but what does that make Meath then? Worse than average? Kildare looked a far more aggressive, skillful and well coached team than Meath."
That's exactly what it makes Meath unfortunately.

That was my point last week. That we had been beaten and beaten pretty comfortably by an average Dublin team and I was told this Dublin team were the bookies favourites for the All Ireland.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 26/04/2023 10:34:09    2473903

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