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Replying To Royalblufill:  "I presume this is your team for next game out??

In terms of championship, hopefully Jack Flynn will be back. I'd have him in there"
Team for cork first round of league. We have to aim for promotion or at least 3rd place. Let's be honest as much as it hurts me to say this (and by time we play them in league I'll have convinced myself and everyone else that we can beat the dubs) Dublin are probably going to walk division 2. It's hard to see any team beating them at this stage. I'm praying we do but that is the supporter in me and heart ruling head. The games that are important will be against those on similar level to us. Kildare, Derry cork clare. We have to target them as wins. For all the talk of Kerry etc I honestly think Leinster and all ire will be Dublins. For some reason they feel aggrieved and they are going full out to destroy everyone , now my hope is they maybe already promoted by time they come to navan (I could be wrong in that ) but if they are they may throw out a second team that we may have a chance against. Look we may seem to be on easier side of Leinster that we could get to final and get into all ire proper. But we can't take anything for granted. Westmeath are already in so mid table or lower might not be enough. Our year would be a disaster if we ended up in tailteann. We have 3 ways to prevent that. One get promoted, two finish 3rd (maybe 4th but that could be dangerous) or reach Leinster final. I believe we should aim to put it to bed as early as possible. So if we all agree dubs will get promoted that still leaves one place to be filled, between I think us Derry and Kildare with maybe cork , we have beat cork last two years, we should have beat Derry last year when it was a dead rubber game for us only for a late error , and then we have Kildare, come on we can get them on last day. Sorry for long post but I feel we shouldn't even be thinking about championship yet. The league is what matters. What a great way to start off a new management team than get promoted on first try.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 09/01/2023 10:11:59    2451657

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Replying To royaldunne:  "1. Harry Hogan
2. Eoin Harkin
3. Conor McGill
4. Robin Clarke
5. Donal Keogan
6. Shane Mcentee
7. Jason Scully
8. Daithí McGowan
9. Ronan Jones
10. Cillian O'Sullivan
11. Shane Walsh
12. Matthew Costello
13..Keith Curtis
14. Diarmuid Moriarty
15. Jordan Morris.

On what I have seen so far however could change after Wednesday"
I wouldnt dismiss Hickey yet, I think hes a really intelligent player.

Id put Hickey at 7 & move Scully to 13 (Keith coming in from Bench in Games).

Depending how much game time they can get into him over next few weeks, but I think Donal Lenihan will be making a case for one of the 6 forward spots too (possibly at the expense of Walsh until up to speed)

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6347 - 09/01/2023 10:31:54    2451660

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Team for cork first round of league. We have to aim for promotion or at least 3rd place. Let's be honest as much as it hurts me to say this (and by time we play them in league I'll have convinced myself and everyone else that we can beat the dubs) Dublin are probably going to walk division 2. It's hard to see any team beating them at this stage. I'm praying we do but that is the supporter in me and heart ruling head. The games that are important will be against those on similar level to us. Kildare, Derry cork clare. We have to target them as wins. For all the talk of Kerry etc I honestly think Leinster and all ire will be Dublins. For some reason they feel aggrieved and they are going full out to destroy everyone , now my hope is they maybe already promoted by time they come to navan (I could be wrong in that ) but if they are they may throw out a second team that we may have a chance against. Look we may seem to be on easier side of Leinster that we could get to final and get into all ire proper. But we can't take anything for granted. Westmeath are already in so mid table or lower might not be enough. Our year would be a disaster if we ended up in tailteann. We have 3 ways to prevent that. One get promoted, two finish 3rd (maybe 4th but that could be dangerous) or reach Leinster final. I believe we should aim to put it to bed as early as possible. So if we all agree dubs will get promoted that still leaves one place to be filled, between I think us Derry and Kildare with maybe cork , we have beat cork last two years, we should have beat Derry last year when it was a dead rubber game for us only for a late error , and then we have Kildare, come on we can get them on last day. Sorry for long post but I feel we shouldn't even be thinking about championship yet. The league is what matters. What a great way to start off a new management team than get promoted on first try."
Well Royaldunne,happy new year to you and all posters on here.While I agree Dublin (you would imagine) will take one of the spaces in top 2,I think Derry are definitely ahead of us (Reigning Ulster champs) not to say we couldn't beat them but I'm sure they will target the league this year.Kildare are only down from division 1 and would probably be just a little ahead of us.Cork yes would be on par with us but you never mentioned Clare who gave us the run around in the championship last year and should have beating us by alot more.Louth local derby will not be a gimme either and Limerick as well.While we potentially should beat Louth and limerick it would be foolish to think it's a given.I do think if we can get a good start we could challenge for promotion and yes of course we should be aiming for it.I think unfortunately the days were we overlook to an extent teams like Kildare, clare,louth, Limerick are well gone.We haven't done much in years and unfortunately the aura we had is well gone.With Colm and his team coming in its given us a lift but we have to be patient with him and give them time.I hope you are right we get promotion,that to me would be a brilliant achievement but if we can compete and see improvement along the way that would be a good place to start.

Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 294 - 09/01/2023 11:57:49    2451677

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Replying To Jinxie:  "I wouldnt dismiss Hickey yet, I think hes a really intelligent player.

Id put Hickey at 7 & move Scully to 13 (Keith coming in from Bench in Games).

Depending how much game time they can get into him over next few weeks, but I think Donal Lenihan will be making a case for one of the 6 forward spots too (possibly at the expense of Walsh until up to speed)"
Agree with this, hickey has just about enough credit in the bank where he should still start vs Cork, hoping he can turn around his form. Worrying thing is he just hasn't looked right for Meath since the 2021 season. A lot of niggling injuries hasn't helped.

Sheridan2010louth (Meath) - Posts: 181 - 09/01/2023 12:07:19    2451680

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Keith Curtis looked impressive at the weekend and would certainly be ahead of Aaron Lynch in the pecking order based on the last two matches.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 09/01/2023 12:28:39    2451687

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Replying To Proudroyal:  "Well Royaldunne,happy new year to you and all posters on here.While I agree Dublin (you would imagine) will take one of the spaces in top 2,I think Derry are definitely ahead of us (Reigning Ulster champs) not to say we couldn't beat them but I'm sure they will target the league this year.Kildare are only down from division 1 and would probably be just a little ahead of us.Cork yes would be on par with us but you never mentioned Clare who gave us the run around in the championship last year and should have beating us by alot more.Louth local derby will not be a gimme either and Limerick as well.While we potentially should beat Louth and limerick it would be foolish to think it's a given.I do think if we can get a good start we could challenge for promotion and yes of course we should be aiming for it.I think unfortunately the days were we overlook to an extent teams like Kildare, clare,louth, Limerick are well gone.We haven't done much in years and unfortunately the aura we had is well gone.With Colm and his team coming in its given us a lift but we have to be patient with him and give them time.I hope you are right we get promotion,that to me would be a brilliant achievement but if we can compete and see improvement along the way that would be a good place to start."
First off happy new year to you and everyone too.
I agree with you Dublin are miles ahead of everyone else. They'd probably win div 1 this year never mind div 2. The rest ? I'm not so sure we can't win majority of them. I don't rate Kildare that highly I think they are a one man show.
Clare yes they beat us in championship but we did beat them in Ennis in league. This one in navan I think. Limerick got to be honest if we don't beat Limerick then we have regressed. Louth yes local derby but again I think if we are to see improvements this year it's a game we should be winning Derry yes ulster champions and will be difficult particularly in Derry. However the last time we played them we had them beat only for a massive error in a game that was important to them and a dead rubber for us. Cork we have beat last couple times we played and we really have to get off to a winning start.
My main point for this is that we can't be in a position of tailteann cup after league. Cause that wouldn't be progress in my opinion. And the best way I think is to get it out of way early so 2nd or 3rd in div 2 will secure all ire football this year.
Ps. Now maybe I am reading the new set up wrong but I think it's the div 1 teams plus provincial finalists and Westmeath then they start counting down until they reach 16. Am I correct in that ? So we have 8 two promotions which is 10 I think (without looking up ) Roscommon Galway and Mayo are on same side of draw so that means a Sligo or Leitrim etc will be in final so that's another one gone as they all lower divisions cork & Kerry separate this year ? I do think top 3 will qualify. So realistically we have to finish ahead of one of dubs , Derry , Kildare. Now that's my reading of it. Am I right or am I totally wrong in what I'm thinking? Genuinely like to know. Been the first year it's confusing for a auld lad like me. So if someone could clarify I'd be grateful.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 09/01/2023 18:54:11    2451779

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We have to aim for second or third in the league…. With two provincial champions and a team that's dropped down from division 1….. with a lack of talent in the county which had continuously been trotted out.…. And a team under new management and coaching….. we have to target Cork, Clare, Kildare and Derry as wins… Cork, who might be getting their house in order, Clare who bet us out the gates in Ennis, Kildare coming down from Division 1 and Derry who won Ulster… oh and that with a team that's barely any different than Andy output v Clare in Ennis which was so far off the mark it was one of the worst displays I've ever seen from a Meath team…. do people actually read what they write or is it all philly buster and hyperbole…

Jeepers it's going to be a long year of suffering and heartache for some posters on here. Those same posters setting imaginary targets for a new manager trying to build a new squad and mindset…. that their now deposed hero couldn't get close too in recent years….

The same hero who said we're not able for division 1 of the league.. that we don't the have depth and panel for it… the panel which he put together, trained and developed… for 6 years…

2023 for me is about Colm O'Rourke getting an identity on this group, bring a sense of togetherness and reconnecting with the supporters, developing a style of play, having multiple strategy within games to match our opposition, resolving long standing and well known weaknesses and deficiencies in this squad, building a squad of 25-30 players that are inter county standard, getting the squad fitter, faster, stronger, more explosive and able for the demands of the inter county game and hopefully maintaining division 2 status for 2024 and beyond….

That's where we're at…. Imaginary target setting isn't going to help anyone

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 10/01/2023 09:13:43    2451798

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Replying To brian:  "We have to aim for second or third in the league…. With two provincial champions and a team that's dropped down from division 1….. with a lack of talent in the county which had continuously been trotted out.…. And a team under new management and coaching….. we have to target Cork, Clare, Kildare and Derry as wins… Cork, who might be getting their house in order, Clare who bet us out the gates in Ennis, Kildare coming down from Division 1 and Derry who won Ulster… oh and that with a team that's barely any different than Andy output v Clare in Ennis which was so far off the mark it was one of the worst displays I've ever seen from a Meath team…. do people actually read what they write or is it all philly buster and hyperbole…

Jeepers it's going to be a long year of suffering and heartache for some posters on here. Those same posters setting imaginary targets for a new manager trying to build a new squad and mindset…. that their now deposed hero couldn't get close too in recent years….

The same hero who said we're not able for division 1 of the league.. that we don't the have depth and panel for it… the panel which he put together, trained and developed… for 6 years…

2023 for me is about Colm O'Rourke getting an identity on this group, bring a sense of togetherness and reconnecting with the supporters, developing a style of play, having multiple strategy within games to match our opposition, resolving long standing and well known weaknesses and deficiencies in this squad, building a squad of 25-30 players that are inter county standard, getting the squad fitter, faster, stronger, more explosive and able for the demands of the inter county game and hopefully maintaining division 2 status for 2024 and beyond….

That's where we're at…. Imaginary target setting isn't going to help anyone"
So what was the point in changing management if we have no improvement? I guess some don't rate Colm orurke as a manager. I do.
That is a terrible post even by some of the stuff you have written here. You would be happy I guess with relegation and tailteann cup. I wouldn't be. I have faith in new set up.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/01/2023 13:27:24    2451860

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Replying To brian:  "We have to aim for second or third in the league…. With two provincial champions and a team that's dropped down from division 1….. with a lack of talent in the county which had continuously been trotted out.…. And a team under new management and coaching….. we have to target Cork, Clare, Kildare and Derry as wins… Cork, who might be getting their house in order, Clare who bet us out the gates in Ennis, Kildare coming down from Division 1 and Derry who won Ulster… oh and that with a team that's barely any different than Andy output v Clare in Ennis which was so far off the mark it was one of the worst displays I've ever seen from a Meath team…. do people actually read what they write or is it all philly buster and hyperbole…

Jeepers it's going to be a long year of suffering and heartache for some posters on here. Those same posters setting imaginary targets for a new manager trying to build a new squad and mindset…. that their now deposed hero couldn't get close too in recent years….

The same hero who said we're not able for division 1 of the league.. that we don't the have depth and panel for it… the panel which he put together, trained and developed… for 6 years…

2023 for me is about Colm O'Rourke getting an identity on this group, bring a sense of togetherness and reconnecting with the supporters, developing a style of play, having multiple strategy within games to match our opposition, resolving long standing and well known weaknesses and deficiencies in this squad, building a squad of 25-30 players that are inter county standard, getting the squad fitter, faster, stronger, more explosive and able for the demands of the inter county game and hopefully maintaining division 2 status for 2024 and beyond….

That's where we're at…. Imaginary target setting isn't going to help anyone"
Btw did you read what you wrote. In one sentence you say with virtually same team as Andy had. In the next you say building a new team. I give up. Anyway happy new year.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/01/2023 13:29:13    2451861

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Replying To brian:  "We have to aim for second or third in the league…. With two provincial champions and a team that's dropped down from division 1….. with a lack of talent in the county which had continuously been trotted out.…. And a team under new management and coaching….. we have to target Cork, Clare, Kildare and Derry as wins… Cork, who might be getting their house in order, Clare who bet us out the gates in Ennis, Kildare coming down from Division 1 and Derry who won Ulster… oh and that with a team that's barely any different than Andy output v Clare in Ennis which was so far off the mark it was one of the worst displays I've ever seen from a Meath team…. do people actually read what they write or is it all philly buster and hyperbole…

Jeepers it's going to be a long year of suffering and heartache for some posters on here. Those same posters setting imaginary targets for a new manager trying to build a new squad and mindset…. that their now deposed hero couldn't get close too in recent years….

The same hero who said we're not able for division 1 of the league.. that we don't the have depth and panel for it… the panel which he put together, trained and developed… for 6 years…

2023 for me is about Colm O'Rourke getting an identity on this group, bring a sense of togetherness and reconnecting with the supporters, developing a style of play, having multiple strategy within games to match our opposition, resolving long standing and well known weaknesses and deficiencies in this squad, building a squad of 25-30 players that are inter county standard, getting the squad fitter, faster, stronger, more explosive and able for the demands of the inter county game and hopefully maintaining division 2 status for 2024 and beyond….

That's where we're at…. Imaginary target setting isn't going to help anyone"
Absolutely agree thats the objective no question. Out with any agendas that dont suport a culture of continuous improvement How ? Players have to be supported in every way when they take responsibility for their individual improvement. If a player shows an aptitude for free taking for example then he gets the resourses he needs. No need to re invent the wheel here .Sean Boylan dealt with that before with Brian Stafford ,and thats one of his special projects going forward i suggest. We will not make real progress without a relable freetaker .To suggest we cant find one is total rubbish. We have them . but they need proper coaching in the skill just like before.. We need coaching in all areas of play to improve standards . I believe that together with players taking reponsibility for themselves ,and their improvement, we have to overhaul what we call training sessions. Why train ? to meet an identified need on the playing field otherwise whats the point??
I accept we need to have a fairly settled squad before we can begin to measure areas of improvement. Thats a work in progress. I am optimistic that Colm has enough ringcraft to manage the resourses in the backroom where talent for the task is rich in quality. I accept that us as keyboard warriors will need to have plenty of patience, Lets see a culture of individuals taking reponsility, consistently encouraged, and appreciated. Players should feel the benefit as a person for the development they undergo to merit wearing the Meath jersey. Only target from where we are now is to learn from mistakes of the past ,encourage and focus exclusively on all areas for continuous improvement. Nothing else and see where that leaves us. O Rourkes craft can bring us a long way. !!

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 10/01/2023 14:15:56    2451878

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Amazing the the aul fella doesn't understand sarcasm and irony, most other reasonable folks have understood what I posted.

Suggested a very similar team to the team that Andy sent out v Clare, starts v Cork in a couple of weeks, the team that got their collective pants pulled down in Ennis.... the same lad who tells us there's no talent in the county…that said everyone deserving got a chance…. then says we need to finish second or third with no regard to the circumstances of Kildare, Derry (a provincial winner) Clare who beat us in the championship, Cork who are rapidly improving….. all in the last page

You couldn't make up some of this stuff…

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 10/01/2023 14:27:16    2451882

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Replying To nobull456:  "Absolutely agree thats the objective no question. Out with any agendas that dont suport a culture of continuous improvement How ? Players have to be supported in every way when they take responsibility for their individual improvement. If a player shows an aptitude for free taking for example then he gets the resourses he needs. No need to re invent the wheel here .Sean Boylan dealt with that before with Brian Stafford ,and thats one of his special projects going forward i suggest. We will not make real progress without a relable freetaker .To suggest we cant find one is total rubbish. We have them . but they need proper coaching in the skill just like before.. We need coaching in all areas of play to improve standards . I believe that together with players taking reponsibility for themselves ,and their improvement, we have to overhaul what we call training sessions. Why train ? to meet an identified need on the playing field otherwise whats the point??
I accept we need to have a fairly settled squad before we can begin to measure areas of improvement. Thats a work in progress. I am optimistic that Colm has enough ringcraft to manage the resourses in the backroom where talent for the task is rich in quality. I accept that us as keyboard warriors will need to have plenty of patience, Lets see a culture of individuals taking reponsility, consistently encouraged, and appreciated. Players should feel the benefit as a person for the development they undergo to merit wearing the Meath jersey. Only target from where we are now is to learn from mistakes of the past ,encourage and focus exclusively on all areas for continuous improvement. Nothing else and see where that leaves us. O Rourkes craft can bring us a long way. !!"
Great words no bull

Continuous improvements, a really great way of looking at things

Garrigan and Eivers will take time to make the necessary improvements and raise of standards with the new panel on S and C and game plans.

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 10/01/2023 14:32:42    2451884

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Replying To brian:  "Great words no bull

Continuous improvements, a really great way of looking at things

Garrigan and Eivers will take time to make the necessary improvements and raise of standards with the new panel on S and C and game plans."
Hmm has any ever seen nobull and Brian in the one room ?? Me thinks not.
Anyway happy new year to yous or variations of you. Hope you all have a good . Now I'm off to watch superman or is it Clarke Kent ?

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/01/2023 15:56:31    2451908

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Agh the usual lines being trotted out now.. duplicate accounts, blah blah ;) next one is that I'm infatuated… etc etc :)

Pretty sure myself and nobull have knocked lumps out of each other over the years, he's a decent lad, well able to talk and debate his point… same as with joe and others… I think myself and Joe were the same person pre Christmas too… hmmmmm

brian (Meath) - Posts: 1973 - 10/01/2023 16:14:37    2451913

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Replying To royaldunne:  "First off happy new year to you and everyone too.
I agree with you Dublin are miles ahead of everyone else. They'd probably win div 1 this year never mind div 2. The rest ? I'm not so sure we can't win majority of them. I don't rate Kildare that highly I think they are a one man show.
Clare yes they beat us in championship but we did beat them in Ennis in league. This one in navan I think. Limerick got to be honest if we don't beat Limerick then we have regressed. Louth yes local derby but again I think if we are to see improvements this year it's a game we should be winning Derry yes ulster champions and will be difficult particularly in Derry. However the last time we played them we had them beat only for a massive error in a game that was important to them and a dead rubber for us. Cork we have beat last couple times we played and we really have to get off to a winning start.
My main point for this is that we can't be in a position of tailteann cup after league. Cause that wouldn't be progress in my opinion. And the best way I think is to get it out of way early so 2nd or 3rd in div 2 will secure all ire football this year.
Ps. Now maybe I am reading the new set up wrong but I think it's the div 1 teams plus provincial finalists and Westmeath then they start counting down until they reach 16. Am I correct in that ? So we have 8 two promotions which is 10 I think (without looking up ) Roscommon Galway and Mayo are on same side of draw so that means a Sligo or Leitrim etc will be in final so that's another one gone as they all lower divisions cork & Kerry separate this year ? I do think top 3 will qualify. So realistically we have to finish ahead of one of dubs , Derry , Kildare. Now that's my reading of it. Am I right or am I totally wrong in what I'm thinking? Genuinely like to know. Been the first year it's confusing for a auld lad like me. So if someone could clarify I'd be grateful."
As far as I can see it's the 8 provincial finalists,Westmeath and then the next 7 highest ranking teams in the league.If Westmeath were to get to the leinster final it would be the next 8 league ranking teams.I admire your optimism Royaldunne and I hope you are right. I think Dublin will top the group.It then depends on what other teams do.We have a decent shout at making the leinster final with Longford,Offaly and Westmeath our side of the draw (meaning we avoided Dublin)not saying we will definitely beat either of the other 3.Kildare and Cork you would imagine would be thinking let's go for the league (wanting to get a place in the All Ireland series)because on paper Dublin and Kerry will beat them in the provincialsDerry is an interesting one will they peak for championship thinking there is another Ulster title there and use the league to blood a few lads.Louth and Limerick probably hoping to stay up and Clare not sure if they are the other side of draw to Kerry and Cork.Maybe Colm is going to say get to the leinster final(hopefully)give the Dubs a rattle and see what happens then in the series.I don't know I could be totally wrong and probably thinking way too much into it.Cork ,Derry and Kildare away in the league games is tough and I think home advantage may get them over the line against us as all should be tight games.Louth will be up for it against us in Navan as well and Clare turned is over in the championship it's a real tough group which we will do very very well to get out of.

Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 294 - 10/01/2023 16:55:30    2451917

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Hmm has any ever seen nobull and Brian in the one room ?? Me thinks not.
Anyway happy new year to yous or variations of you. Hope you all have a good . Now I'm off to watch superman or is it Clarke Kent ?"
RD, if its not dual accounts, its posters from other counties infiltrating the Meath forum to sow discontent, or secret plots against last management., l expect the truth is a lot of posters do not agree/belive with many of your opinions and theories.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2195 - 10/01/2023 17:12:11    2451924

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Replying To royaldunne:  "First off happy new year to you and everyone too.
I agree with you Dublin are miles ahead of everyone else. They'd probably win div 1 this year never mind div 2. The rest ? I'm not so sure we can't win majority of them. I don't rate Kildare that highly I think they are a one man show.
Clare yes they beat us in championship but we did beat them in Ennis in league. This one in navan I think. Limerick got to be honest if we don't beat Limerick then we have regressed. Louth yes local derby but again I think if we are to see improvements this year it's a game we should be winning Derry yes ulster champions and will be difficult particularly in Derry. However the last time we played them we had them beat only for a massive error in a game that was important to them and a dead rubber for us. Cork we have beat last couple times we played and we really have to get off to a winning start.
My main point for this is that we can't be in a position of tailteann cup after league. Cause that wouldn't be progress in my opinion. And the best way I think is to get it out of way early so 2nd or 3rd in div 2 will secure all ire football this year.
Ps. Now maybe I am reading the new set up wrong but I think it's the div 1 teams plus provincial finalists and Westmeath then they start counting down until they reach 16. Am I correct in that ? So we have 8 two promotions which is 10 I think (without looking up ) Roscommon Galway and Mayo are on same side of draw so that means a Sligo or Leitrim etc will be in final so that's another one gone as they all lower divisions cork & Kerry separate this year ? I do think top 3 will qualify. So realistically we have to finish ahead of one of dubs , Derry , Kildare. Now that's my reading of it. Am I right or am I totally wrong in what I'm thinking? Genuinely like to know. Been the first year it's confusing for a auld lad like me. So if someone could clarify I'd be grateful."
Happy New Year to all on the Meath forum!
Quick question, who is the "one man" Kildare are dependent on?

LilywhiteGael (Kildare) - Posts: 113 - 10/01/2023 17:54:21    2451937

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Replying To brian:  "Agh the usual lines being trotted out now.. duplicate accounts, blah blah ;) next one is that I'm infatuated… etc etc :)

Pretty sure myself and nobull have knocked lumps out of each other over the years, he's a decent lad, well able to talk and debate his point… same as with joe and others… I think myself and Joe were the same person pre Christmas too… hmmmmm"
If i remember correctly (and i am open to correction here)i seem to recall maybe a year or more ago i responded to a RD in a negative tone using cynicism maybe. Brian you jumped to his defence ..not of his post but that he was getting treated unfairly,which could be one interpetation. You tried to use reason and advised that RD think a bit more before posting So you challenged how i was treating him .Ok just confused now about how that fits with duplicate accounts.as RD suggests..... Are you me or am i you? Any way RD "keep her lit" and the best of good luck to you and your family for 2023.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1266 - 10/01/2023 18:10:19    2451939

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Replying To seadog54:  "RD, if its not dual accounts, its posters from other counties infiltrating the Meath forum to sow discontent, or secret plots against last management., l expect the truth is a lot of posters do not agree/belive with many of your opinions and theories."
Life would be a lot duller if everyone agreed.
So can you or other who disagree with my team selection put up there team ?
Also what position not style , theories , spirit etc etc would you accept this year. I don't think we should pin our hopes on playing in all ire on beating Offaly Longford or Westmeath. And we should put that to bed in league by finishing in top 3 (top 4 may be good enough) where is that a unrealistic or unreasonable scenario. I relay would love to know. Orurke has said he is targeting promotion. I don't see why we can't go along with the man in his ambitions.
I will await a response. And may I add happy new year to you and urs

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 10/01/2023 18:10:32    2451940

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Happy new year to all the posters here on hoganstand, the league is getting close now and with a new management team it brings fresh optimism, the cork game is huge and if we beat them we could be going into our last two games dublin and kildare needing one win for promotion, which I think we'll all happily take right now, of course it could go the other way too which has been our achilles heel for too long now we lack consistently, theres no way anyone will make me believe that a consistent meath team with the current panel of players we have playing to there potential arnt capable of putting themselves into contention for promotion in this division, of course they can but of course that doesn't mean that they will, but I'm fairly certain that colm o rourke and his management team will be aiming higher then just being happy to survive relegation, anyway I'm really looking forward to this year and I think the new championship layout will be interesting, best of luck to management and players in the coming year.

Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 681 - 10/01/2023 18:29:03    2451944

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