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Any word on when this will be starting up and what the amalgamations are going to be?

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 272 - 19/09/2022 16:45:53    2441244

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i thought this was going to be a championship played within junior and intermediate teams a bit earlier than the senior and when the senior quater finals were being played the final of this would be also a prelimainary quater final for senior football with the winner going into the senior football quauater final. i thought the idea was players from small junior clubs would get a chance to play with better players and a shot at a senior title.

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 767 - 21/09/2022 14:07:51    2441421

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Replying To dickie10:  "i thought this was going to be a championship played within junior and intermediate teams a bit earlier than the senior and when the senior quater finals were being played the final of this would be also a prelimainary quater final for senior football with the winner going into the senior football quauater final. i thought the idea was players from small junior clubs would get a chance to play with better players and a shot at a senior title."
You know what thought done ….. dunno where you dreamt up this. Great on paper but unworkable as junior and intermediate clubs would be twiddling their thumbs from around June for that to happen.
To be honest I think the whole club scene is gone to hell last couple of years and especially this year with county board not having the covoid excuse any more.
Now that we'll have 16 at SFC & IFC it's time to think up a better plan for those championships.
As for Junior whoever decided that 10 clubs is enough and why clubs agreed to it has brought back the dreaded bye in one foul swoop which took years to get rid and in turn signed a death warrant for struggling Junior B sides.

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 22/09/2022 08:54:42    2441503

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Replying To dickie10:  "i thought this was going to be a championship played within junior and intermediate teams a bit earlier than the senior and when the senior quater finals were being played the final of this would be also a prelimainary quater final for senior football with the winner going into the senior football quauater final. i thought the idea was players from small junior clubs would get a chance to play with better players and a shot at a senior title."
That was never the plan, it was to be a standalone contest played later in the year.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1664 - 22/09/2022 10:13:48    2441514

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If ever a committee set out to design a horse and ended up with a camel then this is it.

I am pretty certain that whoever proposed regional teams drawn from Intermediate and Junior teams intended that those regional teams would compete in the Senior Football Championship like they do in Kerry and Cork. But of course the top table either did not understand the benefits that would follow from the venture, did not want to understand the ensuing benefits or were afraid the big beasts of the SFC.

To me the benefits would be many and could be huge.

1. A more competitive SFC.

2. The best of our Intermediate and Junior players would be exposed the a higher standard of football.

3. Those players who made the regional teams would improve and the knock-on effect would improve standards at their home clubs.

4. When a club would win the IFC, most likely with a few players from their regional team on board they would have first hand experience of Senior Football and the transition should be easier.

5. More and more footballers would "be in the shop window" for the inter county selectors who otherwise may not be seen. And we all know that the discovery of one or two "gems" can work wonders for a county team.

As intended at present there is NO STRUCTURE to either finance or manage those teams, two elements that are essential for success. In counties like Cork and Kerry those teams are managed and financed by Divisional Boards, with their own officers and committees that control fixed geographical areas on a continuous basis.

I don't think the aforementioned 'top table' will cede any control to any region within the county.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 22/09/2022 15:50:36    2441565

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exactly i thought we were finally getting the Kerry model. Well could the regional team play their regional competition alongside the inter and junior? would the inter and junior being over a month before the senior be a big deal? my idea of the regional would be four teams drawn against each other in semi finals or if time allowed one group of 4 , 3 matches whoever tops the group wins it and into prelininary quater final.

surely the logistics wouldnt take that much working out? how do kerry do it? didnt the junior and intermedaite start a month earlier than senior this year? id say north meath and east meath would be at an advantage as the regional games could clash with hurling fixtures if not played as standalone matches when junior and inter was over.

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 767 - 22/09/2022 21:19:03    2441593

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Lads this was never put forward to be ran like that. I believe(prob wrong on this) that COR said this at his address to the clubs and that it would be ran off over a few weekends at the end of the champo for lads that would be picked by himself/selectors/clubs to see if there are any the county squad are missing out on.

It was never supposed to tie into the keegan in any form

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 640 - 23/09/2022 08:18:22    2441600

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What the Regional Championship not just another way to do trials for the Meath Senior team? I don't think the Kerry format was ever a runner

Tinchy1 (Meath) - Posts: 66 - 23/09/2022 09:08:51    2441606

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Yes, I heard just a trials - inclusion into SFC would need a detailed review of the structure and impact on the current setup - number f teams - fixture list etc.

I had heard that there would be groupings made up of players from IFC & JFC teams and and another set of groupings with players from SFC teams.

Its hard to know about how it will work, county champions will be in the Leinster, the under 20's will be started and it really will only be for players interested in playing for the county so will some of the teams struggle for players?

stillaroyal (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 23/09/2022 10:20:22    2441620

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I think the regional championships is a great idea. Gives lads playing in weaker teams the opportunity to play with and against a higher level of club player. It would be good to see the winners playing against the Senior championship winners or maybe against Meath in a one off game after it. I have heard the managers have already been appointed but cannot find which teams make up each region, is this available anywhere? Or are they waiting until promotion/relegation is complete before finalising this?

royal11 (Meath) - Posts: 102 - 23/09/2022 11:59:23    2441633

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Remember the Green Stars for non county players? Concept was lost when they decided to pick lads that had played county. Kildare (White Stars) and Dublin (Blue Stars) had same idea and they played each other as well as county teams.

summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 324 - 23/09/2022 12:43:09    2441635

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Names for regional teams announced:
Tara
Bru na Boinne
Boyne Valley
An Tuascairt
Blackwater
Lough Crew
Darnley
Moyfenragh

summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 324 - 06/10/2022 16:11:33    2443020

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Replying To summerof09:  "Names for regional teams announced:
Tara
Bru na Boinne
Boyne Valley
An Tuascairt
Blackwater
Lough Crew
Darnley
Moyfenragh"
Any idea if the break down of what clubs make up the teams??

Meath4Sam2020 (Meath) - Posts: 141 - 06/10/2022 16:40:10    2443028

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I am fully behind this competition and think it could be brilliant. But playing all the games in Dunganny midweek is a very strange decision. It makes it feel like extended Meath trials which I suppose was the purpose of the competition but to me plays down the prestige of the competition. Also I wonder will current county players be playing

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1523 - 06/10/2022 18:40:30    2443041

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Replying To Meath4Sam2020:  "Any idea if the break down of what clubs make up the teams??"
https://meath.gaa.ie/2022-rfc-launch/

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 07/10/2022 08:13:41    2443059

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Replying To Meath4Sam2020:  "Any idea if the break down of what clubs make up the teams??"
Dunshaughlin, Blackhall Gaels, Dunsany, Kilbride, St Paul's (Tara). Managed by Ger Robinson
Duleek/Bellewstown, St Patrick's, St Vincent's, St Mary's (Bru na Boinne). Managed by Niall Flynn/Kieran Rohan
Rathkenny, Walterstown, Bective, Slane (Boyne Valley). Managed by Cathal O'Bric
Syddan, Meath Hill, Nobber, Castletown, Drumconrath, Kilmainhamwood (An Tuascairt). Managed by Brian Farrell
St Michael's, Drumbaragh, Kilmainham, Carnaross, Moynalty (Blackwater). Managed by David Nolan
Oldcastle, Ballinlough, Moylagh, St Brigid's (Lough Crew). Managed by Davy Nelson
Dunderry, Clann na nGael, St Ultan's, Cortown (Darnley). Managed by Eoin Carroll/Anthony Malone
Ballivor, Longwood, Moyfenragh, Boardsmill, Clonard (Moyfenragh). Managed by Brendan Murphy

Launched last night with snazzy looking jerseys for each region. Starts 25/26 October - U20 club championships begins 21/22 October! Would the An Tuascairt boys have a friendly relationship?

summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 324 - 07/10/2022 09:17:48    2443066

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Unusual to see county board list 8 teams (even number) usualy they go for 9 teams or 11 teams in a competition. With a whole load of byes, and 3 team relegation malarky

PatrickTopping (Meath) - Posts: 119 - 07/10/2022 09:18:38    2443067

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U21 Hurlers and u20 footballers should not be eligible for this competition.

Also is there a hurling equivalent that would promote hurling in the north and east of the county.

Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 07/10/2022 10:03:01    2443071

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Replying To Foley91:  "U21 Hurlers and u20 footballers should not be eligible for this competition.

Also is there a hurling equivalent that would promote hurling in the north and east of the county."
Why shouldn't they be eligible for it

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 07/10/2022 10:32:53    2443077

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Why shouldn't they be eligible for it"
Because its being run at the same time as the u20 football amd u21 hurling championships. Also most of these guys are likely in college playing college games.

Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 07/10/2022 12:57:39    2443096

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