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Replying To Jimmycricket: "So they are potential All-Ireland winners but skeptical in a close game!! So what your saying is they could do v well or not.." It makes perfect sense what he is saying.
A young team yet to be tested in a tight championship game in tough conditions against a dogged experienced team. But if they do get tested like that and come through the test you could see them winning the intermediate championship and then the sky is the limit for them at this grade.
Pretty obvious what he was saying really.
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 24/08/2022 10:19:33
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "I think if they can get over a tight game in a semi final/final then the sky is the limit. Similar to Trim last year when they won the Tailteann cup final. They stuttered to that win but the confidence they got from winning the trophy was the making of them for the rest of the year" I agree, they have future senior champions written all over them. But I have sneaking feeling they might get turned over this year (this comment may seem fairly silly in a couple of months time) think rathkenny will have learned from their no show in semi last year, have a lot of players with county experience, very small panel tho. Even Oldcastle, if they get through group, could put it up to dunshaughlin . . Having said all that, dunshaughlin will be overwhelming favourites.
On another topic, isn't it great to see the competitive nature of this year's junior A championship and with 3 more intermediate teams for the drop this year, it will only get tougher.
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Replying To Footnote: "I agree, they have future senior champions written all over them. But I have sneaking feeling they might get turned over this year (this comment may seem fairly silly in a couple of months time) think rathkenny will have learned from their no show in semi last year, have a lot of players with county experience, very small panel tho. Even Oldcastle, if they get through group, could put it up to dunshaughlin . . Having said all that, dunshaughlin will be overwhelming favourites.
On another topic, isn't it great to see the competitive nature of this year's junior A championship and with 3 more intermediate teams for the drop this year, it will only get tougher." From what I've seen this year. It's between St. Mick's & Dunshaughlin.
PatrickTopping (Meath) - Posts: 119 - 24/08/2022 13:07:48
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Replying To PatrickTopping: "From what I've seen this year. It's between St. Mick's & Dunshaughlin." Dunshauglin head and shoulders above everyone. If they play on a big pitch with all that speed they have they will be hard to beat. Getting so close to trim in the league final is looking very solid form as the year goes on.
CMAN1570 (Meath) - Posts: 56 - 24/08/2022 14:36:26
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Replying To Blackspot09: "Maybe they are looking after him with a view to the latter stages of the championship. He's only 17 lets not forget so throwing him in to start all the games is not always the right thing to do." Exactly. Doesn't matter how talented a young player you are, you're coming up against players 10-15 years older and far more experienced and physical than any players that you would face at underage level. Would be nearly impossible for any young player to stand out in those games. And it's probably for the best that the lad isn't starting every game. Last thing you'd want is for a talented youngster to burn out or get injured due to too many games.
Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 24/08/2022 15:58:06
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Replying To PatrickTopping: "From what I've seen this year. It's between St. Mick's & Dunshaughlin." Interesting comment based on a previous post about Dunsaughlin
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Replying To royler: "Interesting comment based on a previous post about Dunsaughlin" Rathkenny will be closest to Dunshaughlin, Micks have massive task to get out of group even though they have 2 wins under the belt, touting Dunshaughlin as future senior champions is nuts, Cilles, Curraha both blazed through Intermediate but have struggled to make any impression at Senior, Trim have had the two worst teams in Senior as opponents so far, i suspecr they will find things a lot tougher from here on in
Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1489 - 25/08/2022 09:04:15
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Replying To Analyst: "Rathkenny will be closest to Dunshaughlin, Micks have massive task to get out of group even though they have 2 wins under the belt, touting Dunshaughlin as future senior champions is nuts, Cilles, Curraha both blazed through Intermediate but have struggled to make any impression at Senior, Trim have had the two worst teams in Senior as opponents so far, i suspecr they will find things a lot tougher from here on in" I don't think saying they will be d future senior champs is far off. You must remember that the dunshaughlin team are more or less a pile of teenagers that are starting. I'd actually think they're u20 team this year will be very similar to their starting senior lineup. They've numerous Meath 20s Kinsella, Gray, McCarrick, McDonagh, Blake and Murphy and mix that in withCostello and Mitchell. I'm not saying that they are definitely future senior champs but I don't think they will be far off (in years to come once again experience needed). But the backbone of the team is very strong the likes of Kinsella Gray and McCarrick will all be hoping to break into the Senior county team in years to come, you could be looking at 5 or 6 dunshaughlin players on that county panel soon enough. Saying this I think both Rathkenny and St.Michs will be a very tough test for a group of young players as it's previously been mentioned experience is probably the biggest weakness and leaves a lot of room for a potential upset, Oldcastle too arnt to be forgotten about !!
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Replying To royler: "Interesting comment based on a previous post about Dunsaughlin" What dont you understand? It's between these two teams. I fancy the Mick's. Is that simple enough for you
PatrickTopping (Meath) - Posts: 119 - 25/08/2022 10:15:13
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Replying To houndinbound: "I don't think saying they will be d future senior champs is far off. You must remember that the dunshaughlin team are more or less a pile of teenagers that are starting. I'd actually think they're u20 team this year will be very similar to their starting senior lineup. They've numerous Meath 20s Kinsella, Gray, McCarrick, McDonagh, Blake and Murphy and mix that in withCostello and Mitchell. I'm not saying that they are definitely future senior champs but I don't think they will be far off (in years to come once again experience needed). But the backbone of the team is very strong the likes of Kinsella Gray and McCarrick will all be hoping to break into the Senior county team in years to come, you could be looking at 5 or 6 dunshaughlin players on that county panel soon enough. Saying this I think both Rathkenny and St.Michs will be a very tough test for a group of young players as it's previously been mentioned experience is probably the biggest weakness and leaves a lot of room for a potential upset, Oldcastle too arnt to be forgotten about !!" Yeah but it's not as simple as having all these talented minors coming into the first team and then go on and win a senior championship. Just ask anyone from St Colmcilles . They've been producing top minor players for a long time now consistently every year and it could be argued they are as far away as ever from winning a senior championship.
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 25/08/2022 10:42:58
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Replying To Blackspot09: "Yeah but it's not as simple as having all these talented minors coming into the first team and then go on and win a senior championship. Just ask anyone from St Colmcilles . They've been producing top minor players for a long time now consistently every year and it could be argued they are as far away as ever from winning a senior championship." I agree however you aren't looking at good minor footballers these are good inter county 20s who as I said 3 or 4 will more than likely make the step up to senior soon. I know it isn't just about having good young players but it sure does help and gives a coach a good foundation to build on.
houndinbound (Meath) - Posts: 22 - 25/08/2022 17:28:57
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Replying To houndinbound: "I agree however you aren't looking at good minor footballers these are good inter county 20s who as I said 3 or 4 will more than likely make the step up to senior soon. I know it isn't just about having good young players but it sure does help and gives a coach a good foundation to build on." Cilles have had several good inter county u20s over the past 5 or 6 years . Again the jump from u20 to top level senior club even if you are an u20 inter county player is big.
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 25/08/2022 17:37:23
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Replying To PatrickTopping: "What dont you understand? It's between these two teams. I fancy the Mick's. Is that simple enough for you" Micks looking good at the moment alright but still a lot to do the next day against a much improved Oldcastle team from the game against Walterstown. If Micks can get out of the group id fancy them to give it a crack. Oldcastle game will show where they are at
redracoon (Meath) - Posts: 57 - 26/08/2022 09:56:28
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The Intermediate Championship is where some of the tastiest games are this weekend. After the shock of Duleek/Bellewstown being beaten by Meath Hill in the last round , no game is bigger than the Group D meeting of D/B & Rathkenny in Slane on Sunday, (two of only four teams expected to trouble Dunshaughlin), Rathkenny are already through to the QF but D/B need at least a draw to be sure of a QF spot, because if Meath Hill beat Ballivor and D/B lose, Meath Hill would go get the 2nd semifinal spot. A draw would suit both, I still think Rathkenny will win.
That Meath Hill versus Ballivor game is also very hard to call, Ballivor have nothing to play for, but as bad as Meath Hill want the win I think Ballivor will win and D/B will get the QF spot. I have changed my predictions on both those games from earlier.
Another big game in Group B, in Rathmolyon is for the 2nd QF spot Dunderry and Longwood, Dunderry to win.
In the other Group B game in Carolanstown, Drumbaragh (already in relegation playoff) play against Nobber (already in QF), Drumbaragh most be one of the most disappointed clubs in the Intermediate with their performances.
In Group C at Walterstown, the battle to avoid the last place relegation spot makes this a do or die game for Blackhall Gaels & Kilmainham. Kilmainham on form should win. In Dunsany Bective take on Dunshaughlin and need to win by nine points to do St. Pats out of the 2nd QF spot. Dunshaughlin will finish off the group with 4 wins from 4 and in the process do the Pat's a favour.
In Group A at Ratoath, it's Walterstown against St. Vincent's, Walterstown can still qualify if they can get a big winning margin over St. Vincent's .
St. Michael's who are 2 wins from 2 will still need at least a draw against Oldcastle to guarantee a QF spot while Oldcastle will need a win to stay in the Intermediate Football Championship. I will give the nod to Walterstown but it could be close.
Meathball (Meath) - Posts: 140 - 28/08/2022 13:01:02
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Long way to go yet but great to be approaching the knockout stage on form. Different world form last year and who knows…
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Replying To aghref: "Long way to go yet but great to be approaching the knockout stage on form. Different world form last year and who knows…" Dunshaughlin look a class apart in intermediate! Relegation last year could be the making of them!!
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Replying To Royalblufill: "Dunshaughlin look a class apart in intermediate! Relegation last year could be the making of them!!" Dunshaughlin very strong again last night. Kinsella was a class above the rest and was playing beautiful ball. McCarrick must have been back from injury and had a very impressive game and was my pick of the backs. Costello wasn't playing however my guess is being rested ahead of knock out stages and it seems Mitchell is back firing and looking well on his way to a county call up along with a few others.
Still not saying dunshaughlin are nailed on winners however with McCarrick and Blake back from injury they won't be far off however knock out football is a different gravy and there will be plenty of teams that will fancy a crack against them!!
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Quarter Finals:
Nobber v Walterstown: Walterstown
Oldcastle v Dunderry: Oldcastle
Duleek Bellewstown v St Pats: Duleek/Bellewstown
Dunshaughlin v Rathkenny: Dunshaughlin
Semi Final
Dunshaughlin v Walterstown: Dunshaughlin
Duleek Bellewstown v Oldcastle: Oldcastle
Final
Dunshaughlin v Oldcastle: Dunshaughlin
Dunshaughlin look to strong for this grade, but you just never know in football. Nobody gave Nobber a chance against Trim in 2019 and look what happened there. Rathkenny will be Dunshaughlin's toughest test to date and if they get over that they will make the final and if they don't allow compliancy to get in they should win the final.
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Four interesting Quarter Finals.
One of the main contenders will be gone out of the Intermediate Championship at the Quarter Final stage as Rathkenny play Dunshaughlin in Pairc Tailteann on Saturday evening at 5pm. You would have to think that if any team were to beat Dunshaughlin that they will be the team to go and win the Intermediate.
Dunshaughlin would be very foolish to read too much into the last competitive meeting between the sides, four months ago in a league game in Dunshaughlin. A full strength home team had a convincing win over an under strength Rathkenny who were missing Donal Keoghan among others. Just like Dunshaughlin, Rathkenny have been knocking up high scores and the game has the appearance of been a highly entertaining affair especially as the forecast is good. Dunshaughlin haven't had any kind of a decent challenge so far and this will be their toughest assignment by far having breezed through a very weak group whereas the tough competitive match against Duleek will stand to Rathkenny. For Rathkenny to win they will have to catch Dunshaughlin out on a day when things would go really bad. Although it is an ideal opportunity to catch out Dunshaughlin, Dunshaughlin will win in a close contest taking advantage of the wide open spaces in Pairc Tailteann. DUNSHAUGHLIN
The winners of Dunshaughlin/Rathkenny will play the winners of Walterstown/Nobber. Two teams with an amazing improvement in form from the league, Walterstown finishing last and relegated from Division 1B and Nobber finishing 2nd last and also relegated from Division 2A. Sean Meade is really on fire for Nobber but Brian O Connell is even more influential and that should be enough to see the Blacks march on.
WALTERSTOWN
Oldcastle are looking to make the final for the 2nd year in a row and will be trying to go one better this year. They will get a good handle on where they are at after their QF against Dunderry. Both of these teams had surprise defeats in their first round games and recovered to win their last two and neither have overly impressed but I think Oldcastle are the team that is improving more as they play each game, but neither have played
well enough yet to be considered top contenders yet, a good display by Oldcastle should be enough for them to win in what could be a low scoring game.
OLDCASTLE
Duleek/Bellewstown appear to have a much weaker team in St. Pats and confidence will be high after their win over Rathkenny.
Although Donal Landy is very near the top scorer position in the championship, the difference in this game is that Duleek have a multiple of quality forwards and should have the biggest margin of victory of all four Quarter Finals.
DULEEK/BELLEWSTOWN
The relegation semi finals are between four North Meath clubs, three teams go down and the team that survives will have to win both the semifinal and Final.
It's looks like Drumbaragh with Liam Ward & Hughie Corcoran will have way too much firepower for St. Vincent's and will send them straight back down to Junior.
DRUMBARAGH
Clan na Gael and Kilmainham will be much closer and if Kilmainham are to win they will be needing more than Micky Newman doing the scoring, it could be the time Dylan Morgan puts on a show. Although Clan na Gael are favourites (having won a game) I think Kilmainham will just about shade it.
KiILMAINHAM
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Replying To Meathball: "Four interesting Quarter Finals.
One of the main contenders will be gone out of the Intermediate Championship at the Quarter Final stage as Rathkenny play Dunshaughlin in Pairc Tailteann on Saturday evening at 5pm. You would have to think that if any team were to beat Dunshaughlin that they will be the team to go and win the Intermediate.
Dunshaughlin would be very foolish to read too much into the last competitive meeting between the sides, four months ago in a league game in Dunshaughlin. A full strength home team had a convincing win over an under strength Rathkenny who were missing Donal Keoghan among others. Just like Dunshaughlin, Rathkenny have been knocking up high scores and the game has the appearance of been a highly entertaining affair especially as the forecast is good. Dunshaughlin haven't had any kind of a decent challenge so far and this will be their toughest assignment by far having breezed through a very weak group whereas the tough competitive match against Duleek will stand to Rathkenny. For Rathkenny to win they will have to catch Dunshaughlin out on a day when things would go really bad. Although it is an ideal opportunity to catch out Dunshaughlin, Dunshaughlin will win in a close contest taking advantage of the wide open spaces in Pairc Tailteann. DUNSHAUGHLIN
The winners of Dunshaughlin/Rathkenny will play the winners of Walterstown/Nobber. Two teams with an amazing improvement in form from the league, Walterstown finishing last and relegated from Division 1B and Nobber finishing 2nd last and also relegated from Division 2A. Sean Meade is really on fire for Nobber but Brian O Connell is even more influential and that should be enough to see the Blacks march on.
WALTERSTOWN
Oldcastle are looking to make the final for the 2nd year in a row and will be trying to go one better this year. They will get a good handle on where they are at after their QF against Dunderry. Both of these teams had surprise defeats in their first round games and recovered to win their last two and neither have overly impressed but I think Oldcastle are the team that is improving more as they play each game, but neither have played
well enough yet to be considered top contenders yet, a good display by Oldcastle should be enough for them to win in what could be a low scoring game.
OLDCASTLE
Duleek/Bellewstown appear to have a much weaker team in St. Pats and confidence will be high after their win over Rathkenny.
Although Donal Landy is very near the top scorer position in the championship, the difference in this game is that Duleek have a multiple of quality forwards and should have the biggest margin of victory of all four Quarter Finals.
DULEEK/BELLEWSTOWN
The relegation semi finals are between four North Meath clubs, three teams go down and the team that survives will have to win both the semifinal and Final.
It's looks like Drumbaragh with Liam Ward & Hughie Corcoran will have way too much firepower for St. Vincent's and will send them straight back down to Junior.
DRUMBARAGH
Clan na Gael and Kilmainham will be much closer and if Kilmainham are to win they will be needing more than Micky Newman doing the scoring, it could be the time Dylan Morgan puts on a show. Although Clan na Gael are favourites (having won a game) I think Kilmainham will just about shade it.
KiILMAINHAM" Oh my word, Dunshaughlin got out of jail here. I thought that given the talent on show and the fine day, iit would be a hgh quality free flowing affair, it was anything but with both defences on top!! Rathkenny totally dominated possesion in the first half with Brian meade giving an exhibition in midfield, their problem however was in attack, Halligan was definitely carrying an injury into the game and at times was barely able to run, confining him to more of a target role. Curtis, while lively, did miss a couple of chances. It was Donal keoghan who stormed forward and got their goal in a very tight first half. Dunshaughlin likewise were getting little change out of a tight rathkenny rearguard. Their standout player for the whole game was Luke Mitchell, who really looks a talent, and kept them in it with some lovely scores, Costello was fairly anonymous for the whole game likewise Kinsella. You always got the feeling Dunshaughlin would last it out better and their backs eventually got chances to break forward. Huge turning point with 10 - 15 minutes to go and rathkenny leading by a point I think, Donal keoghan was cynically taken out and had to go off. Last minute goal won it for dunshaughlin but story of game was rathkennys missed goal chances. For dunshaughlin, they will know they can play better and given their talent I'm sure they will but for long periods of this game they were 2nd best. Nobber (after their great escape act) await in semi but dunshaughlin will get through that especially in navan. I still think they are a very good senior team in the making but rathkenny really did put it up tp them and but for injuries/missed goal chances, could and possibly should have won.
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