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Replying To MillerX:  "Are the McGowans and many more Ratoath players not equally committed to both codes as well. Remember that Ratoath are STILL involved in the SFC, Trim are already out."
I think the point here relates to Douglas and playing all last winter with the footballers and then straight back into it this season - of course a great thing to have a run to the all ireland but he could well be tired. I dont think a comparison with Ratoath was being made. Yes, this weekend Ratoath are playing football in the semi but this is the first occasion that Trim footballers have not being playing.

stillaroyal (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 27/09/2022 19:36:22    2442079

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So final week has arrived, will be difficult but enjoyable few weeks in Ratoath been in both finals.

Tough to call but i think Trim are slight favorites', don't think they will be as naïve as Kiltale were in their defense. Two good teams who will be going at it hammer and thongs and i think the chosen referee on one of his good days is one of the better in the county and well fit to add to a good game. On a good day he lets it flow but blows the obvious frees and punishes what needs to be punished.

pixey (Meath) - Posts: 60 - 03/10/2022 16:44:39    2442681

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Big day of the hurling year nearly here, looking forward to the game.

Hoping for a good contest, I think Meath hurling needs a good final too, going into a Christy ring year which we should be winning.

Giving the vote to Trim, although it will be tight. Being out of the football also could play into their hands too.

countyman123 (Meath) - Posts: 34 - 04/10/2022 11:59:59    2442760

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Replying To pixey:  "So final week has arrived, will be difficult but enjoyable few weeks in Ratoath been in both finals.

Tough to call but i think Trim are slight favorites', don't think they will be as naïve as Kiltale were in their defense. Two good teams who will be going at it hammer and thongs and i think the chosen referee on one of his good days is one of the better in the county and well fit to add to a good game. On a good day he lets it flow but blows the obvious frees and punishes what needs to be punished."
I think it has to be said that Kiltale were without 3 prominent players, namely Iarla Hughes, Mark O'Sullivan and one of the McCabes.
You are also right about the referee and referees in general, blow OBVIOUS frees and any action that endangers an opponent should be merit a card. This did not always happen during this championship and is unacceptable.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 04/10/2022 14:05:17    2442781

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Replying To MillerX:  "I think it has to be said that Kiltale were without 3 prominent players, namely Iarla Hughes, Mark O'Sullivan and one of the McCabes.
You are also right about the referee and referees in general, blow OBVIOUS frees and any action that endangers an opponent should be merit a card. This did not always happen during this championship and is unacceptable."
Anthony Fode aswell

Meathgaalad (Meath) - Posts: 171 - 04/10/2022 17:07:42    2442808

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Trim v Ratoath will be an open game. It will be all about the teams and not the Referee. I think, as a punter, when we want a free flowing game, we don't want to hear the whistle for a 50/50 thrown ball, let an extra half step go.
Striking a player, blow the whistle...
An obvious thrown ball, blow the whistle (referee needs to be consistent with both teams)...
A chop, blow the whistle.
The lines people need to support the referee... Too many look the other way, 'seen nothing, heard nothing'.
I think this referee will have the right balance, hopefully we will be talking about the teams and not the officials at the final whistle.
I do expect it to be very close, possibly extra time. There will be goals.
Good luck to both teams.

Stiofan (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 05/10/2022 09:42:03    2442837

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Hard not to think ratoath name is on the cup when you think of the luck they have had , and you need luck to win any championship.
Win one game in group again dunboyne who were woefull .
Play the favs in kiltale who lose 4 of starting 15 with injury playing football in the week leading up to it.
There a excellent team but make no mistake in any normal championship the would be long out so luck could be on there side. Would be some going to win senior football and hurling championships but trim and ratoath will do that over the next few years.

Good to see a guy who has actually played hurling get the final , at least he knows what letting it flow means and not the farce you get from the other fella.

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 424 - 06/10/2022 16:50:22    2443030

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Replying To hurlit:  "Hard not to think ratoath name is on the cup when you think of the luck they have had , and you need luck to win any championship.
Win one game in group again dunboyne who were woefull .
Play the favs in kiltale who lose 4 of starting 15 with injury playing football in the week leading up to it.
There a excellent team but make no mistake in any normal championship the would be long out so luck could be on there side. Would be some going to win senior football and hurling championships but trim and ratoath will do that over the next few years.

Good to see a guy who has actually played hurling get the final , at least he knows what letting it flow means and not the farce you get from the other fella."
Your having a laugh, he will not let anything flow, never has. Trim are the best team in the county at the moment. They beat Ratoath easily when they met earlier with only 13 men on the field, what will they do with 15 men.

latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 06/10/2022 18:37:52    2443040

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Replying To hurlit:  "Hard not to think ratoath name is on the cup when you think of the luck they have had , and you need luck to win any championship.
Win one game in group again dunboyne who were woefull .
Play the favs in kiltale who lose 4 of starting 15 with injury playing football in the week leading up to it.
There a excellent team but make no mistake in any normal championship the would be long out so luck could be on there side. Would be some going to win senior football and hurling championships but trim and ratoath will do that over the next few years.

Good to see a guy who has actually played hurling get the final , at least he knows what letting it flow means and not the farce you get from the other fella."
Think your right. I think it will be very interesting though if Trim manage to get into an early lead of 4-5 points to see if the ratoath lads will drop their heads as its inevitable that they will have nexts week match in the back of their minds also.

Hopefully we get something like the last final they played as it was a classic.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 640 - 07/10/2022 08:49:18    2443061

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Replying To latouche25:  "Your having a laugh, he will not let anything flow, never has. Trim are the best team in the county at the moment. They beat Ratoath easily when they met earlier with only 13 men on the field, what will they do with 15 men."
I wouldn't read to much into the group game, Kiltale beat them as well and that didn't count for to much. I do think Trim are the better team at the minute but a final is purely down to the 'on the day performance' and on their day Ratoath can beat Trim as easily as the other way around.

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 582 - 07/10/2022 10:22:03    2443074

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Replying To latouche25:  "Your having a laugh, he will not let anything flow, never has. Trim are the best team in the county at the moment. They beat Ratoath easily when they met earlier with only 13 men on the field, what will they do with 15 men."
I think that Trim are potentially the best team in the county. They didn't show it against Kildalkey in the semi. Timing is everything - original playing of 2020 final - Ratoath were strong favorites. Trim lads have improved since then but I dont think they are the finished article yet and the dual players have had a long couple of years.

stillaroyal (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 07/10/2022 10:31:16    2443076

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Replying To hurlit:  "Hard not to think ratoath name is on the cup when you think of the luck they have had , and you need luck to win any championship.
Win one game in group again dunboyne who were woefull .
Play the favs in kiltale who lose 4 of starting 15 with injury playing football in the week leading up to it.
There a excellent team but make no mistake in any normal championship the would be long out so luck could be on there side. Would be some going to win senior football and hurling championships but trim and ratoath will do that over the next few years.

Good to see a guy who has actually played hurling get the final , at least he knows what letting it flow means and not the farce you get from the other fella."
All this stuff about Ratoath only winning one game is hilarious. They came fourth in group A and made the knockouts, simple as that. Na Fianna didn't win a single game (not even against Dunboyne in their last game), should they have gone through instead? Had they managed to turn even one of their three draws into a win, they would have gone through and deservedly so. That's Na Fianna's issue, no one else's.
Your posts generally come across as bitter when it comes to teams beating Kiltale. There are constantly sly digs at luck, injuries, referees or location of the games among other things.

As for Sunday, Trim should win. They've had the better of games against us for years, the only recent exception being the first game of the 2021 championship which can be put down to a hangover from the 2020 final win. Can see a Trim dynasty at senior level on the horizon with them dominating underage levels recently (which will almost certainly continue in the minor final at the weekend). Hopefully a game of similar quality to the 2020 final, with a different result. That loss still stings.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 07/10/2022 10:43:39    2443079

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Ratoath
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UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 07/10/2022 10:46:31    2443081

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Going into the final round of the group games the reality for Ratoath was that they HAD to beat Kildalkey and got an excellent start but Kildalkey, who were already qualified beat them comfortably and Ratoath literally scraped through due to a draw match 10 miles away. So in effect Ratoath, as far as they should be concerned we're in a knockout situation and couldn't deliver. Granted they completely dismantled Killyon in the Q/f and did manage to also dismantle a depleted Kiltale team in the semifinal. Meanwhile Trim stuttered and stumbled several times in their semifinal tussle with Kildalkey and aided by a goalkeeping dream show DID manage to beat a somewhat depleted Kildalkey by a single point.

This points towards a Trim victory or perhaps Ratoath took a very critical look at themselves after their great escape from the group. Time and Trim will provide the answers.

Trim by 4 to 6 points.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 07/10/2022 10:58:20    2443082

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Any interesting match ups that we might see?

countyman123 (Meath) - Posts: 34 - 07/10/2022 11:26:30    2443088

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Replying To countyman123:  "Any interesting match ups that we might see?"
Douglas v Mc Gill
Murray v Kelly
Dwane v McGowan
The list goes on, this could be a cracker

Meathgaalad (Meath) - Posts: 171 - 07/10/2022 13:28:29    2443102

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Wonder have trim any injuries yet, normally hear a rumour around now that a big name is injured.

pixey (Meath) - Posts: 60 - 07/10/2022 13:45:02    2443107

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Replying To pixey:  "Wonder have trim any injuries yet, normally hear a rumour around now that a big name is injured."
Won't hear that unless they lose , then the excuses will start
Lads tired , lads carrying injuries, long season, playing both codes, referring decisions, etc etc

Awaywin (Meath) - Posts: 116 - 08/10/2022 18:26:21    2443203

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To be fair, I would prefer to be a Trim or Ratoath supporter now. They are in the final. The rest of us can lick our wounds and dream of what could have been. Realistically, unless you are in the Top 4, you have very little chance. Since 2007, Kiltale and Kildalkey have dominated, Trim have been competitive,and Ratoath never brought a good team over the line. Ratoath and Trim are going well in both codes. Trim have other finals to look forward to. They have plenty coming through Juvenile. Kildalkey won Junior 2 with their 3rd team. They won the Billy Byrne Cup with 2nd team. They got to 3 semi finals. They got to the final of the Brendan Davis Cup. Div 3 final next week with Trim facing Kildalkey. And Kildalkey will be disappointed. Looking at other teams this year, I dont see much change at the top table. Teams are going backwards and not much coming through the ranks. No matter how many times lads come on this forum, putting the top teams down, it wont make a difference.

Stiofan (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 09/10/2022 12:50:48    2443257

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Congratulations Trim. Well deserved champions again.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 09/10/2022 17:48:59    2443292

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