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Replying To dickie10:  "who will win the semi finals?

On form it looks Drumree v Rathmolyon but Kildalkey could pull off a shock. Agree it looks terrible when 2nd strings get into semi finals. Intermediate hurling must be bad, those clubs need to sort themselves out big time.

Rathmolyon would get a great boost to be back senior and meath hurling needs them back badly.

Kiltale and Trim i think for the final. Trim have a had a good rest the last fortnight. Kiltale will shade it v rataoath. Kildalkey need to play the game of their season and probably as good as they have ever played to pull off a win, cant see it really."
Fair play to Kildalkey, they can put out a 2nd team that is competitive at Intermediate. Not bad for a Village of 250 families. I think there 3rd team is uneaten as well. They must be doing something right. Not sure Rathmolyon will have it all there own way in the Intermediate semi-final. Kildalkey will have 15 players for this match.
As for seniors, not sure that rest is a positive. Trim and Kildalkey have plenty of footballers. Momentum is key, especially if you carry no injuries. I wouldn't write any of the Senior semifinalists off. Its knockout time, a completely different animal.

Stiofan (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 14/09/2022 11:43:19    2440627

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Replying To Stiofan:  "Fair play to Kildalkey, they can put out a 2nd team that is competitive at Intermediate. Not bad for a Village of 250 families. I think there 3rd team is uneaten as well. They must be doing something right. Not sure Rathmolyon will have it all there own way in the Intermediate semi-final. Kildalkey will have 15 players for this match.
As for seniors, not sure that rest is a positive. Trim and Kildalkey have plenty of footballers. Momentum is key, especially if you carry no injuries. I wouldn't write any of the Senior semifinalists off. Its knockout time, a completely different animal."
250 familes, fair going. And then you have the town of ballivor and surrounding areas dont forget.

PatrickTopping (Meath) - Posts: 119 - 14/09/2022 13:24:05    2440650

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Replying To PatrickTopping:  "250 familes, fair going. And then you have the town of ballivor and surrounding areas dont forget."
I've personally heard of a numerous sources from that area that Kildalkey don't get much of the pull from the ballivor area in both adult or juvenile hurling. Seemingly ballivor village contribute very little to both hurling clubs (Killyon and Kildalkey) many don't seem to play hurling in the area outside of the Mckeon brothers there's not many others playing for kildalkey but correct me if I'am wrong

loyalroyal23 (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 14/09/2022 14:54:00    2440664

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Replying To dickie10:  "who will win the semi finals?

On form it looks Drumree v Rathmolyon but Kildalkey could pull off a shock. Agree it looks terrible when 2nd strings get into semi finals. Intermediate hurling must be bad, those clubs need to sort themselves out big time.

Rathmolyon would get a great boost to be back senior and meath hurling needs them back badly.

Kiltale and Trim i think for the final. Trim have a had a good rest the last fortnight. Kiltale will shade it v rataoath. Kildalkey need to play the game of their season and probably as good as they have ever played to pull off a win, cant see it really."
Think you are right about Kiltale and Trim final. However, both teams have interest in the football championship but can't see this scuppering any preparations.
Feel Kiltale have the edge, toughing out a result in the last round may stand to them.

countyman123 (Meath) - Posts: 34 - 14/09/2022 16:39:08    2440686

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Replying To loyalroyal23:  "I've personally heard of a numerous sources from that area that Kildalkey don't get much of the pull from the ballivor area in both adult or juvenile hurling. Seemingly ballivor village contribute very little to both hurling clubs (Killyon and Kildalkey) many don't seem to play hurling in the area outside of the Mckeon brothers there's not many others playing for kildalkey but correct me if I'am wrong"
Wouldnt you think ballivor would be a senior football club and not a bottem half Inter team, with 3 clubs involved.

PatrickTopping (Meath) - Posts: 119 - 14/09/2022 17:17:52    2440692

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Just in the IHC will dunderry bottle it again?

PatrickTopping (Meath) - Posts: 119 - 14/09/2022 17:18:59    2440693

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Ballivor rook their eye off the ball big time with underage from early 2000s slipped way back, in the 90s they were consistenetly div1 and 2 in all underage, 2003 they were divison 1 in U21, but that was it after that. Strange alright one part of Ballivor parish, Coolronan would have had very little hurlers or hurling interest traditionally it produced only footballers, nearly like bubble of North or East Meath. thats begining to change a bit now.

Ballivor would produce more hurlers to Killyon traditionally but Killyon in theory can go well down into South East penninsulla if they want all the way to Ballinabrackey. Maybe thats what they need to do and bring all of Clonard too.

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 767 - 14/09/2022 20:29:13    2440705

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Have we seen anybody impress this year that is worthy of a call up for the Seniors panal for next year? Or any notible absenses for next year?

bountyboy22 (USA) - Posts: 37 - 15/09/2022 13:00:58    2440754

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Replying To bountyboy22:  "Have we seen anybody impress this year that is worthy of a call up for the Seniors panal for next year? Or any notible absenses for next year?"
Yes good few impressing, whether they would commit to the panel and the same old setup is another question.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 640 - 15/09/2022 16:24:32    2440796

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "Yes good few impressing, whether they would commit to the panel and the same old setup is another question."
Hopefully with new management and potentially a 'fresh start' at Christy Ring level, there would be sufficient commitment from players especially those who play for the top 4

countyman123 (Meath) - Posts: 34 - 15/09/2022 17:07:41    2440805

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "Yes good few impressing, whether they would commit to the panel and the same old setup is another question."
Who are they? Hav'nt got to many games.

PatrickTopping (Meath) - Posts: 119 - 15/09/2022 17:10:29    2440807

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Replying To dickie10:  "Ballivor rook their eye off the ball big time with underage from early 2000s slipped way back, in the 90s they were consistenetly div1 and 2 in all underage, 2003 they were divison 1 in U21, but that was it after that. Strange alright one part of Ballivor parish, Coolronan would have had very little hurlers or hurling interest traditionally it produced only footballers, nearly like bubble of North or East Meath. thats begining to change a bit now.

Ballivor would produce more hurlers to Killyon traditionally but Killyon in theory can go well down into South East penninsulla if they want all the way to Ballinabrackey. Maybe thats what they need to do and bring all of Clonard too."
does anyone from ballinabrackey play hurling at all or has ever had...its kinda cut off at the very bottom of meath and the only real club they could play for in hurling would be Killyon

preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 761 - 15/09/2022 17:21:12    2440808

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Replying To dickie10:  "Ballivor rook their eye off the ball big time with underage from early 2000s slipped way back, in the 90s they were consistenetly div1 and 2 in all underage, 2003 they were divison 1 in U21, but that was it after that. Strange alright one part of Ballivor parish, Coolronan would have had very little hurlers or hurling interest traditionally it produced only footballers, nearly like bubble of North or East Meath. thats begining to change a bit now.

Ballivor would produce more hurlers to Killyon traditionally but Killyon in theory can go well down into South East penninsulla if they want all the way to Ballinabrackey. Maybe thats what they need to do and bring all of Clonard too."
Interesting to hear that they took there eyes off the ball. Always found it strange the dynamic between the three clubs in Ballivor, from talking to people in the area is that the majorty of Killyon hurlers Gannon,Keoghan,Raleigh etc are also Ballivor footballers where the same amount of crossover is not as evident with Kildlakey. Probably due to the different levels in hurling with kildlakey always challenging for Jubilees and Killyon in the B.

LoyaleRoyale (Meath) - Posts: 13 - 16/09/2022 08:52:25    2440842

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Replying To LoyaleRoyale:  "Interesting to hear that they took there eyes off the ball. Always found it strange the dynamic between the three clubs in Ballivor, from talking to people in the area is that the majorty of Killyon hurlers Gannon,Keoghan,Raleigh etc are also Ballivor footballers where the same amount of crossover is not as evident with Kildlakey. Probably due to the different levels in hurling with kildlakey always challenging for Jubilees and Killyon in the B."
Two Conneeleys, two Healeys, Nicky Potterton, Evan Fitzgerald and Padraig Geoghegan, all Kildalkey residents as well as the two McKeon brothers and Brian O'Halloran from Ballivor but all Kildalkey Senior hurlers played for Ballivor footballers regularly over the past number of years. Last year Brian O'Halloran wasn't eligible while Paddy Connelly has recently been injured and unavailable to both teams. That is close to half the team. There are many others from Kildalkey who do not play senior hurling with Kildalkey who play football with Ballivor now and over the years. So it's unfair to say that the Kildalkey area is not contributing to the Ballivor football effort.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 16/09/2022 10:55:13    2440872

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Replying To LoyaleRoyale:  "Interesting to hear that they took there eyes off the ball. Always found it strange the dynamic between the three clubs in Ballivor, from talking to people in the area is that the majorty of Killyon hurlers Gannon,Keoghan,Raleigh etc are also Ballivor footballers where the same amount of crossover is not as evident with Kildlakey. Probably due to the different levels in hurling with kildlakey always challenging for Jubilees and Killyon in the B."
I've heard different kildalkey make up the majority in ballivor adult and juvenile. This year alone 7 starters for Ballivor 1st team were from kildalkey and 4 from killyon the rest was made up from Ballivor men

loyalroyal23 (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 16/09/2022 13:33:16    2440891

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Replying To PatrickTopping:  "Who are they? Hav'nt got to many games."
Niall smullen
David murtagh
Brian connelly
Martin Healy
Conor quigley
James Murray
Conor Fitzgerald
Are a few young names that have been strong in the club campaigns

loyalroyal23 (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 16/09/2022 13:36:08    2440892

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Replying To loyalroyal23:  "I've heard different kildalkey make up the majority in ballivor adult and juvenile. This year alone 7 starters for Ballivor 1st team were from kildalkey and 4 from killyon the rest was made up from Ballivor men"
I was at two of Ballivor's game, one involving my one club and another determined our relegation faith. Of the kildlakey hurlers a number of them are Ballivor men (McKeons, O'Halloran). Anyway my point was not to point the finger just interested in the dynamic of the three club system as much of the killyon lads are from Ballivor as I understand it and would view kildlakey as a rival. We struggle with only one club to keep the peace

LoyaleRoyale (Meath) - Posts: 13 - 16/09/2022 14:27:26    2440898

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Replying To loyalroyal23:  "Niall smullen
David murtagh
Brian connelly
Martin Healy
Conor quigley
James Murray
Conor Fitzgerald
Are a few young names that have been strong in the club campaigns"
Agree on above, can throw in on top of that Adam Murphy and Brian Reilly from Kiltale. Trim have a young age profile, Gererd Duane been very good also.

countyman123 (Meath) - Posts: 34 - 16/09/2022 15:53:41    2440902

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Replying To LoyaleRoyale:  "Interesting to hear that they took there eyes off the ball. Always found it strange the dynamic between the three clubs in Ballivor, from talking to people in the area is that the majorty of Killyon hurlers Gannon,Keoghan,Raleigh etc are also Ballivor footballers where the same amount of crossover is not as evident with Kildlakey. Probably due to the different levels in hurling with kildlakey always challenging for Jubilees and Killyon in the B."
You want evidence and not hearsay, Kildalkey players who played with Ballivor this year: 1.Brian Conneely, 2.David Conneely, 3.Patrick Conneely, 4.Martin Healy, 5.Mark Healy, 6.Paul Fagan, 7.Podge Geohegan, 8.Martin Browne, 9.Ciarán Browne, 10.Nicky Potterton, 11.Kevin McKeon 12,Brendan McKeon, 13.Brian OHalloran 14.Sam Sweeney 15.Sean Corrigan 16.Evan Fitzgerald 17.Conor Fitzgerald
I could go on!

Stiofan (Meath) - Posts: 67 - 16/09/2022 16:17:23    2440906

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Replying To Stiofan:  "You want evidence and not hearsay, Kildalkey players who played with Ballivor this year: 1.Brian Conneely, 2.David Conneely, 3.Patrick Conneely, 4.Martin Healy, 5.Mark Healy, 6.Paul Fagan, 7.Podge Geohegan, 8.Martin Browne, 9.Ciarán Browne, 10.Nicky Potterton, 11.Kevin McKeon 12,Brendan McKeon, 13.Brian OHalloran 14.Sam Sweeney 15.Sean Corrigan 16.Evan Fitzgerald 17.Conor Fitzgerald
I could go on!"
My understanding of that is 2 of the names above did not play for Ballivor this year, 4 of the names are Ballivor men and one of the names I have never seen play for Kildlakey. Again this is not a blame game I am sure there is many killyon players that do not bother with the football I was just interested to hear about the dynamics of two senior hurling clubs nestled either side of a football club

LoyaleRoyale (Meath) - Posts: 13 - 17/09/2022 14:04:15    2440962

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