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Some interesting positional selections there Joe. Could you expand a little bit on why you made some of them. Don't disagree with your 15 more interested in your thought process behind some of the choices
brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 04/04/2022 15:44:54 2409568 Link 5 |
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I only know of two but assume there may be more. I don't want to name them as I'm not sure if they were brought in under viable consideration or to make numbers to cover injured players in games etc. As for the results I have no clue, I know the Tyrone team trained in Ratoath on Saturday morning as they had it up on their social media pages. As you said though, the result is irrelevant, I'd be more interested to know how we lined out and how our shooting/scoring was. I'd imagine the likes of Jack Flynn, James McEntee, James Conlon, Ethan Devine, Bryan McMahon would have been given plenty of minutes to try and get them up to pace as they didn't play a lot during the league and then possibly Harnan if hes not injured, Robyn Clarke, Ronan Ryan etc ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 04/04/2022 16:02:32 2409577 Link 1 |
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"let's be honest we should have beat Offaly Down and probably Roscommon", this is utter bull. Should have beaten Down given the first half performance but in the second half it appears as if 'they thought it would happen' rather than 'making it happen', so it didn't happen. Against Offaly…we were steeped to sneak that goal to level it. Wasn't at the Roscommon game, as Trim were in Croke Park, but going by Roscommon's performances since then it is plain we are well behind them because they score freely so get that notion out of your head at once. Oh yea there is a story doing the rounds that Banty has walked, maybe you can clarify. The only spark that I took from the League is that Keoghan can still perform and the return of Menton and Jones and I am praying that Jones is going to be ok. We were competitive when Menton and Jones returned and McGill will improve things at the back BUT apart from Jack O'Connor there has been NO improvement up front, therefore the patient is still on oxygen and needs much more. MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 04/04/2022 16:57:18 2409606 Link 2 |
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On another issue. Does anyone know if campion is still on the panel ? Is he injured ? Away ? Dropped ? Or dropped himself? royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/04/2022 19:16:08 2409644 Link 0 |
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Yeah that's fair enough. Just hope we didn't pick up any injuries.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 04/04/2022 21:20:17 2409658 Link 0 |
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so what happened to lynch from trim? was he looked at? Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 630 - 05/04/2022 08:46:01 2409666 Link 0 |
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Cillian O' Sullivan is such a frustrating player, yes he got a nice inside step but invariably leads to nothing. Shane Walsh certainly does not have the stamina or fitness to be a CHF nor Costello the accuracy to be a FF. If that's the team that lines out it will be a very short summer but I guess we are facing a short summer anyway so makes little difference. AthboyCelt (Meath) - Posts: 147 - 05/04/2022 10:13:12 2409684 Link 5 |
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If banty has walked I wouldn't blame the lad at all. Personally think he's better than Wallaces and McMahon and they have had more chances than him this year and failed to deliver. Very similar to Lenihan in that was lkeft kicking his heels and had enough. I'd hope that when the new manager comes in after the season that Banty gets a chance and expanded role under them.
brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 05/04/2022 10:31:35 2409692 Link 9 |
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There's no way in my opinion he is better than Joey Wallace or McMahon. Even club football backs this up. Probably better than Eamonn Wallace though but there are many players in Meath not on panel who are. In any case all 3 of them (conlon, Joey and McMahon) aren't up to the level of a top 8 intercounty forward so it's a futile argument anyway. Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1318 - 05/04/2022 13:14:25 2409742 Link 14 |
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Agree with you that regardless of all of it they're not up to it at intercounty at the minute. Now i think Banty given a few games he might be better placed
brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 05/04/2022 14:10:25 2409765 Link 7 |
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Hope he has not left panel, in and out, while never getting a run of games, he had more good outings than bad. Maybe a bit small for intercounty, however, his advantage over several starters was he is well able to kick points. Management have shown little confidence in him so its difficult to know would he have progressed.
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2142 - 05/04/2022 15:39:39 2409803 Link 13 |
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I think the issue is that he seems to never do well when starting (against say top 10 teams anyway) but always seems to do well when coming in from the bench which isn't generally a role any forward wants, as everyone wants to be starting. Now I don think he could have been brought on earlier against Derry say but unfortunately the role of the impact sub is 10-15 mins at the end of the game, which at the minute I think himself and Joey Wallace are ideally suited for, however neither will most likely be happy with
ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 05/04/2022 16:27:12 2409816 Link 1 |
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Banty is a really interesting player, I've seen him in club league games and he has kicked the lights out but when it comes to championship he rarely delivers. Compare that to the three Ratoath lads, McMahon delivers more regular while the other two can change a game but not influence it. To me he is far too light and small for starting inter county football. He struggles to win his own ball in tight defences, if his marker is as quick as him then he also struggles out in front. He's not able to retain the ball in the tackle and can be bottled up easily. We could get away with one of Joey, Eamonn or Bryan starting but that is it. If Eamonn starts it has to be at wing forward as he needs the space to run into, Joey and Bryan are much better in the corner and more physical than Banty. Joey, Eamonn and Banty are all similar style, fast pacey and like to get the ball out in space. Now the question is can Banty be used as an impact sub when the game opens up. We can't look at bringing on x2 Wallaces, McMahon and Banty in the forwards and having them all on at the same time so it asks the question what do having 3 very similar players (Wallaces and Banty) in both build and style wise add. UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 355 - 05/04/2022 16:29:07 2409817 Link 2 |
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Hearing he has gone but again might be just a rumour. .You couldn't blame him,started one match didn't do well(neither did most of the team that day)has only got a handful of token minutes since.Scored the winner v Clare I'm sure that gave him a lift but didn't get a chance to show v Derry.Not saying he should be starting all the time but the lads that are ,arent exactly shooting the lights out.Dont think it suits him the game we are playing.He would be much better if we had a big man inside to work off but unfortunately we don't have that.Also he needs quick ball into space not many lads would beat him to the ball for pace.But unfortunately that's not the game Andy mac plays either.Pity because he could do damage against a tiring defence.Dont like to see anyone leave the panel at this stage few weeks till championship can't be good for morale.
Proudroyal (Meath) - Posts: 256 - 05/04/2022 16:49:06 2409828 Link 3 |
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Not sure if he is better than the other subs or not but he is an excellent player and definitely better than J Morris/Walsh/Reilly /C O Sullivan and some others. I have great respect for all of them but it must drive Banty mad
Ashrules (Dublin) - Posts: 518 - 05/04/2022 16:58:41 2409830 Link 3 |
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I haven't heard anything regarding banty. Sure this time last year was it yourself who heard the rumour keoghan had walked ?? Anyway yes should have beat Offaly we messed up but messed up worse v Roscommon. And trust me they won't do anything in championship apart from maybe teach the final as been drawn on opposite side to mayo & Galway. Both of whom will Go further than the rossies. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 05/04/2022 17:19:21 2409835 Link 0 |
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This is a classic case of overrating a player who isn't playing. Banty has never had a big game against a good team. And I do think he is probably more deserving than McMahon or the Wallaces of game time because he is a more natural scorer. He is not better than Morris or O'Sullivan I don't think. Walsh has had better games than Banty for Meath and as for Thomas he plays 11 and he is certainly a lot better at 11 than Banty would be so that's a terrible comparison. Club football is a different sport to inter-county against division 1 or even Division 2 teams. With time and space and on the front foot Banty can torture a defense. In a tighter game, he isn't better than the 4 guys you've mentioned, or certainly, he hasn't proven it. And again I think he should have more game time, but you're just hyping Banty up because he is the one who hasn't been playing.
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 05/04/2022 17:52:19 2409845 Link 7 |
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I didn't even read this properly. You somehow think that Banty is at the same level as our other subs but is definitely better than the 4 starters you named. So who are the other subs you think are better than them? What were you starting 6 forwards be?
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1458 - 05/04/2022 18:51:25 2409858 Link 9 |
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So you reckon he may not be better than the subs but he is better than 4 of the starting 6 forwards? I'm not saying you are wrong! But it does seem odd!! For what it's worth - I think McMahon is a corner forward who McEntee has tried to play at 11! He has never played at 11 for Ratoath! I think Joe WAllace has been the best forward in Meath senior championship for 2 of the last 3 years (when he decided to play!!) so not sure I'd put Conlon ahead of him! Truth is I don't think either WAllace or Conlon have performed to their best at county level - maybe their markers are that much better than they face when at club level!!! Or maybe, and this is what I believe - given their stature and their speed, ball into them should be played out in front into space - but what we seem to do is hit high ball in on top of them both!! I felt sorry for a Conlon in the leinster final against the Dubs - played as a sole man in the full forward line with ball after ball being pumped in high to him Anyway - what do I know! ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 422 - 05/04/2022 21:56:23 2409874 Link 2 |
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I did NOT say or post that "Keoghan had walked". Any day you score a goal late in injury to draw you can count yourself lucky. And as you seemed up to this to have the inside track on banty I was just wondering if you could confirm or scotch a rumour that came my way.
MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1063 - 06/04/2022 10:14:14 2409905 Link 3 |