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Replying To Ashrules: "Ratoath and Dunboyne lost the match on an off Day but hardly outplayed. Ratoath players had all their training mixed in with hurlers .Only the 5 on the County got real training and both wallaces were injured for the match they lost.
Big slow guys are no use for Summer matches in Croke park but might be useful for league matches and rest the speedy guys with stamina for the Championship.
There are big guys who would otherwise be great for the team if they were with South Meath Clubs where they were given modern development based training from a young age. But they were stuck in North Meath." I'm not even sure where to start with this post....
The Tones lads Latouche was talking about are big and slow because they are from north Meath therefore haven't received any of the modern day training that the clubs in South Meath provide....
Sorry what???????
I'm from South Meath but this has to be one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen on here.
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 01/02/2022 21:52:06
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Replying To Ashrules: "Ratoath and Dunboyne lost the match on an off Day but hardly outplayed. Ratoath players had all their training mixed in with hurlers .Only the 5 on the County got real training and both wallaces were injured for the match they lost.
Big slow guys are no use for Summer matches in Croke park but might be useful for league matches and rest the speedy guys with stamina for the Championship.
There are big guys who would otherwise be great for the team if they were with South Meath Clubs where they were given modern development based training from a young age. But they were stuck in North Meath." So your saying anyone not in south meath got modern day training.??
Can you expand on that.??
Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 496 - 02/02/2022 07:17:25
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Replying To royaldunne: "Well Conlon hickey Costello hogan (menton wouldn't play under micko) walsh Devine etc are all new players. The problem is what we are producing rather than what any management can do. Micko made a huge mistake in dropping the likes of ward etc. and that whole bunch. The likes of joey wallace should have been gradually added to the team rather than been thrown in. But that's rehashing what happened years ago. Strength and conditioning are light years ahead of when Andy took over. We have a professional set up which I don't believe was there prior. However Andy is not man manager and is extremely brash and abrupt. Man management is needed big time. That been said I hope he gave them the hairdryer treatment after Sunday's abysmal display" Menton played under Micko for three years before opting out in 2016 due to personal reasons and he made his debut well before Micko?
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Replying To Borderroyal: "So your saying anyone not in south meath got modern day training.??
Can you expand on that.??" Scariest part of that post is it go 2 likes so people actually agree with him!!!!
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 02/02/2022 09:34:50
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Replying To royaldunne: "Well Conlon hickey Costello hogan (menton wouldn't play under micko) walsh Devine etc are all new players. The problem is what we are producing rather than what any management can do. Micko made a huge mistake in dropping the likes of ward etc. and that whole bunch. The likes of joey wallace should have been gradually added to the team rather than been thrown in. But that's rehashing what happened years ago. Strength and conditioning are light years ahead of when Andy took over. We have a professional set up which I don't believe was there prior. However Andy is not man manager and is extremely brash and abrupt. Man management is needed big time. That been said I hope he gave them the hairdryer treatment after Sunday's abysmal display" Your right on man management side of things, seems to be non existent. A goal down with plenty of time remaining in the Leinster final last year, Mickey Newman should've been brought on. Mickey was flying it in training apparently and maybe if the Kilmainham man was introduced be would've given another year. We could do with him now.
summerof09 (Meath) - Posts: 324 - 02/02/2022 09:47:07
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Replying To Blackspot09: "Scariest part of that post is it go 2 likes so people actually agree with him!!!!" Yes clown stuff
Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 496 - 02/02/2022 10:39:19
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Replying To summerof09: "Menton played under Micko for three years before opting out in 2016 due to personal reasons and he made his debut well before Micko?" Indeed he did. He stated that he wouldn't play under him. Mcentee brought him back in.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/02/2022 11:31:10
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Replying To Borderroyal: "Cheers never heard of him.not to say hes not any good.looked sunday to be all over the place.hope it chamges for navan." You said you never heard of Meaths new coach, here is his CV below.
Meath's new coach John McCloskey is one of the best and most influential coach's to come out of Ulster in the last 25 years. Many believe John McCloskey and Paddy Tally are the two coach's who modernised how gaelic football was coached since 2000. Tally coached Tyrone to Sam in 03 and is current kerry coach. John McCloskey is from Antrim, he coached Crossmaglen to numerous Ulster senior titles and All Ireland senior club titles. He coached Armagh to an All-Ireland Senior title, 5 Ulster Titles and coached Armagh to their only and first National league title. He then coached Derry to a National league Division 1 title also in 2008. He then coached many rugby teams for the IRFU. And he also coached one of the biggest professional rugby clubs in England WASPs in English Premiership and Heineken European Cup. He is very much a skills based coach, that's what he is famous for. Players who have worked for him have praised him greatly.
Kingkeegan (UK) - Posts: 55 - 02/02/2022 11:43:06
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Replying To Ashrules: "Ratoath and Dunboyne lost the match on an off Day but hardly outplayed. Ratoath players had all their training mixed in with hurlers .Only the 5 on the County got real training and both wallaces were injured for the match they lost.
Big slow guys are no use for Summer matches in Croke park but might be useful for league matches and rest the speedy guys with stamina for the Championship.
There are big guys who would otherwise be great for the team if they were with South Meath Clubs where they were given modern development based training from a young age. But they were stuck in North Meath." I hope this is a ****take because if it's not it's fairly embarrassing
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1523 - 02/02/2022 11:44:11
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Replying To Ashrules: "Ratoath and Dunboyne lost the match on an off Day but hardly outplayed. Ratoath players had all their training mixed in with hurlers .Only the 5 on the County got real training and both wallaces were injured for the match they lost.
Big slow guys are no use for Summer matches in Croke park but might be useful for league matches and rest the speedy guys with stamina for the Championship.
There are big guys who would otherwise be great for the team if they were with South Meath Clubs where they were given modern development based training from a young age. But they were stuck in North Meath." To my knowledge the Tones are also a dual club so I don't buy that excuse, both the Wallace played Joey for the first 15 minutes didn't do much, Eamon also did nothing when introduced also McMahon was also on the entire game and was also anomalous. As for Dunboyne were they all injured all the county men were totally anomalous. It's time to stop making excuses and move on. It looks like it's harder to get off the team these days than get on it.
latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 02/02/2022 12:28:51
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Replying To Crinigan: "Shane Glynn played a few league matches (might have been O Byrne Cup either, but he played twice in Navan as I remember being at them) and was excellent. Inexplicably not picked after that. He's a brilliant defender, as good as Keoghan in terms of pure defensive nous. His time for intercounty footballer over though." Why is that he is still in his 20s isn't he?
latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 02/02/2022 12:30:30
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Replying To royaldunne: "Indeed he did. He stated that he wouldn't play under him. Mcentee brought him back in." Where did he state that?
UsernameInvalid (Meath) - Posts: 403 - 02/02/2022 12:34:54
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Replying To Kingkeegan: "You said you never heard of Meaths new coach, here is his CV below.
Meath's new coach John McCloskey is one of the best and most influential coach's to come out of Ulster in the last 25 years. Many believe John McCloskey and Paddy Tally are the two coach's who modernised how gaelic football was coached since 2000. Tally coached Tyrone to Sam in 03 and is current kerry coach. John McCloskey is from Antrim, he coached Crossmaglen to numerous Ulster senior titles and All Ireland senior club titles. He coached Armagh to an All-Ireland Senior title, 5 Ulster Titles and coached Armagh to their only and first National league title. He then coached Derry to a National league Division 1 title also in 2008. He then coached many rugby teams for the IRFU. And he also coached one of the biggest professional rugby clubs in England WASPs in English Premiership and Heineken European Cup. He is very much a skills based coach, that's what he is famous for. Players who have worked for him have praised him greatly." Great cv now i know.A skills coach great looking at that stuff sunday work on handpassing must be priority but dont forget the defending with purpose goin forward not back to our goalie all the time.and kicking a score would be of benefit to our team.coming from cross you imagine be more kicking involved but if he has been with rugby id imagine hes on the s/c pathway there.
Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 496 - 02/02/2022 12:53:37
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Replying To latouche25: "To my knowledge the Tones are also a dual club so I don't buy that excuse, both the Wallace played Joey for the first 15 minutes didn't do much, Eamon also did nothing when introduced also McMahon was also on the entire game and was also anomalous. As for Dunboyne were they all injured all the county men were totally anomalous. It's time to stop making excuses and move on. It looks like it's harder to get off the team these days than get on it." Yeah but the North Meath lads are all big and slow due to the lack of modern day south meath training!!!!
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 02/02/2022 12:56:03
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Replying To Kingkeegan: "You said you never heard of Meaths new coach, here is his CV below.
Meath's new coach John McCloskey is one of the best and most influential coach's to come out of Ulster in the last 25 years. Many believe John McCloskey and Paddy Tally are the two coach's who modernised how gaelic football was coached since 2000. Tally coached Tyrone to Sam in 03 and is current kerry coach. John McCloskey is from Antrim, he coached Crossmaglen to numerous Ulster senior titles and All Ireland senior club titles. He coached Armagh to an All-Ireland Senior title, 5 Ulster Titles and coached Armagh to their only and first National league title. He then coached Derry to a National league Division 1 title also in 2008. He then coached many rugby teams for the IRFU. And he also coached one of the biggest professional rugby clubs in England WASPs in English Premiership and Heineken European Cup. He is very much a skills based coach, that's what he is famous for. Players who have worked for him have praised him greatly." Posted about McCloskey when he was appointed and it looked like a great addition to coaching setup, a highly respected man within football and other sports, however, so far nothing has changed, on evidence of last three games we have slipped further back. Not having a go at him and would like to know are his ideas gaining any traction with manager. If not why bring him in?
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2195 - 02/02/2022 13:06:09
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Replying To UsernameInvalid: "Where did he state that?" Chronicle if I remember correctly. Fergal lynch is who you need to talk to.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/02/2022 13:09:50
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Replying To hyperache: "If what's on this panel are the best available, then Meath are even more doomed that I would have thought.
Let's be honest, they're not, they're the best players that fit the style of play McEntee is trying to play, and it's clearly not working. How many players has McEntee ostracised during his tenure? The goalkeeping situation has been a disaster for the last couple of years. He has fallen out with everyone, won't speak to the media, it's everyone else's fault but his, the U20 management team left, the county board tried to vote him out. I mean he's had about 6 years to get it right and Meath have definitely not progressed under him at all. They've lost every big game. Every super 8 game, lost all but one of our Division 1 games, lost to Kildare in the league play off last year. Where's the progress?
This overreliance on players like Eamonn Wallace, Joey Wallace, Brian McMahon, James Conlon etc.. is mind-boggling. What other county in the country has a forward like with an average height of about 5"7? Heard Pat Spillane saying the Kerry half-forward line is too small and not physical enough on the Sunday game.. Not sure where that puts Meath. How many games have been 8/9/10 points down in before we start playing football? Far too many times. I just don't know what to think anymore because it's embarrassing, to not score after nearly 50 minutes of play is shameful" Just to make a small point here - it seems to be the case that a lot of the best club forwards we have are of similar stature. Eamon, Joey, Brian McMahon, Cillian O'Sullivan, Banty, Jordan Morris are all similar builds more or less - None of them are over 6 foot - if even that! Aaron Lynch likewise is not a particularly big man but like the guys before is very skillful! I have never stood next to Thomas O'Reilly but from the sideline he doesn't look all that big either! Shane Walsh is certainly over 6 feet but not nearly as mobile as these other lads which is probably similar for saran O'Fionnagain!
But again I'd make the point, when club championship comes around the lads above always seem to stand out for their clubs! I can't think of too many big men who would make a difference in the forward line. (Jack Flynn when back fit would!)
Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 511 - 02/02/2022 13:37:34
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Replying To Royalblufill: "Just to make a small point here - it seems to be the case that a lot of the best club forwards we have are of similar stature. Eamon, Joey, Brian McMahon, Cillian O'Sullivan, Banty, Jordan Morris are all similar builds more or less - None of them are over 6 foot - if even that! Aaron Lynch likewise is not a particularly big man but like the guys before is very skillful! I have never stood next to Thomas O'Reilly but from the sideline he doesn't look all that big either! Shane Walsh is certainly over 6 feet but not nearly as mobile as these other lads which is probably similar for saran O'Fionnagain!
But again I'd make the point, when club championship comes around the lads above always seem to stand out for their clubs! I can't think of too many big men who would make a difference in the forward line. (Jack Flynn when back fit would!)" You are correct, they are all similar, which of them is better than Mattimo, none in my opinion. Daithi McGowan is better than most of them and is well over 6' mobile and a good free taker. That's 1lad to start with. All we need is another 2 or 3 of that type in the team to give us the height we need
latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 02/02/2022 14:30:38
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Replying To Royalblufill: "Just to make a small point here - it seems to be the case that a lot of the best club forwards we have are of similar stature. Eamon, Joey, Brian McMahon, Cillian O'Sullivan, Banty, Jordan Morris are all similar builds more or less - None of them are over 6 foot - if even that! Aaron Lynch likewise is not a particularly big man but like the guys before is very skillful! I have never stood next to Thomas O'Reilly but from the sideline he doesn't look all that big either! Shane Walsh is certainly over 6 feet but not nearly as mobile as these other lads which is probably similar for saran O'Fionnagain!
But again I'd make the point, when club championship comes around the lads above always seem to stand out for their clubs! I can't think of too many big men who would make a difference in the forward line. (Jack Flynn when back fit would!)" I think Joey banty and Bryan are very similar builds but I do think Cillian and Morris and Eamonn are bigger and stronger (not necessarily taller).
Bryan is out the field in half forwards and picks it up deeper when he isn't marked so not as difficult to get on the ball. It's not necessarily tall forwards but ones who can hold their own in tight areas or break a tackle.
Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 687 - 02/02/2022 14:31:21
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Replying To latouche25: "You are correct, they are all similar, which of them is better than Mattimo, none in my opinion. Daithi McGowan is better than most of them and is well over 6' mobile and a good free taker. That's 1lad to start with. All we need is another 2 or 3 of that type in the team to give us the height we need" I agree re Mattimoe. He is better than all of them and I'd love him to be involved . However he's been in on the panel on 2 separate occasions and both times walked away of his own accord so it's not as if he hasn't been given the chance . McGowan I would disagree with you on. Fantastic club player and good free taker but won't cut it an inter county level IMO unfortunately.
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 02/02/2022 14:42:15
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