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Looks like castletown's championship to loose now .

2021 (Meath) - Posts: 11 - 14/09/2021 20:10:31    2380740

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I would say its open enough. The Vincent's beat Castletown the weekend it will be either carnaross, dunsany,Castletown or the Vincent's. It'd open enough and on a good day all them teams could beat each other. Makes it good viewing

CMAN1570 (Meath) - Posts: 56 - 14/09/2021 22:21:17    2380767

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Replying To 2021:  "Looks like castletown's championship to loose now ."
I'd have Vincent's and Dunsany ahead of them,. Also push come to shove probably Boardsmill also,

I don't think they'll find Carnaross too easy either. So a long way to go...

Jimmycricket (Meath) - Posts: 113 - 15/09/2021 08:13:37    2380792

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Replying To 2021:  "Looks like castletown's championship to loose now ."
On what grounds hav u came up that assumption did st Vincent's not beat them in the final group game,maybe you know something others don't,the fact that alot of people would hav Vincent's as 1 of the favourites there is no real grounds for ur statement

royal1967 (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 15/09/2021 09:09:21    2380801

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Replying To royal1967:  "On what grounds hav u came up that assumption did st Vincent's not beat them in the final group game,maybe you know something others don't,the fact that alot of people would hav Vincent's as 1 of the favourites there is no real grounds for ur statement"
Royal 1967, its just my opinion based on watching them in the group sages, i think they were just doing enough to qualify. You are right that Vincent's beat them but knock out will be different.

Neither Vincent's or Dunsany have been able to get over the line in the past and i dont think Vincent's can score enough in a tight game for them to win. But football is a funny game on the day , who turns up is the key.

2021 (Meath) - Posts: 11 - 15/09/2021 09:57:56    2380805

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BOARDSMILL, used the group games to trial a few fringe players and give them championship experience. They were the only team to push Ballivor all the way last year and will have improved since.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 15/09/2021 11:02:15    2380831

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Vincents vs Dunsany final for me, I think they are both a bit ahead of everyone else.

Belt (Meath) - Posts: 272 - 15/09/2021 12:18:40    2380862

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Replying To CMAN1570:  "I would say its open enough. The Vincent's beat Castletown the weekend it will be either carnaross, dunsany,Castletown or the Vincent's. It'd open enough and on a good day all them teams could beat each other. Makes it good viewing"
Cant see Vincent's getting over the line , they were 7 points down to a poor / average kilbride team with 15 minutes to go and only won out due to the fact that kilbride fitness was lacking in the last 15 minutes and some poor on field decisions.

2021 (Meath) - Posts: 11 - 15/09/2021 12:28:17    2380865

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Castletown were missing 5/6 starting players against Vincent's in last group game. Both teams were already qualified so I would not look too much into that result. A better gauge will be the Tailteann Cup final between the two on 25th in PT.

boeder (Meath) - Posts: 59 - 15/09/2021 14:13:38    2380906

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Replying To boeder:  "Castletown were missing 5/6 starting players against Vincent's in last group game. Both teams were already qualified so I would not look too much into that result. A better gauge will be the Tailteann Cup final between the two on 25th in PT."
They also struggled against a very poor cortown team in the 2nd round

royal1967 (Meath) - Posts: 293 - 15/09/2021 19:53:52    2380973

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Dunsany to end their drought for me. Vincent's pipped them last year in the semi, time for revenge... something missing in Castletown (maybe it's the 4/5 lads that didn't play last week. Boardsmill had looked promising but maybe that it was a dead rubber v Kwood they weren't up for it. I'll reserve judgement on them till quarter final is played

Brownepat (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 15/09/2021 21:30:49    2381001

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Hard to know what Castletown are at but it's rare to see a relegated team go straight back up at this grade and overall results to date suggest they're not serious contenders.

Boardsmill have been emerging for a few years now and play a nice brand of ball. Very surprised to see them come a cropper against an average K'wood. Don't understand the theory of holding back at this stage of the season.

Carnaross and Dunsany have some fine individual players, probably the best at this grade in Harkin, Fox and O'Reilly but St Vincents are a better all round team and I fancy them to get over the line this year.

The_Ripper (Meath) - Posts: 183 - 16/09/2021 10:18:56    2381055

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Dunsany should have beaten Vincent's in the semi final last year but Dunsany couldn't hit a barn door in more than 15 minutes of injury time to equalize. But Ballivor weren't going to be beaten in the final. If they sort out their shooting in tight games, Dunsany will be tough to beat.
With three coming down from Intermediate next year, this is probably the best chance any of the remaining teams have of winning the Junior championship for a while to come. Would like to see Dunsany do it with all the finals they've lost over the years.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 16/09/2021 11:56:58    2381073

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "Dunsany should have beaten Vincent's in the semi final last year but Dunsany couldn't hit a barn door in more than 15 minutes of injury time to equalize. But Ballivor weren't going to be beaten in the final. If they sort out their shooting in tight games, Dunsany will be tough to beat.
With three coming down from Intermediate next year, this is probably the best chance any of the remaining teams have of winning the Junior championship for a while to come. Would like to see Dunsany do it with all the finals they've lost over the years."
They should easily account for Kilbride in the quarters anyway. After that it's tricky.

2021 (Meath) - Posts: 11 - 16/09/2021 15:11:06    2381109

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Have to say the Junior Championship has hit an all time low in terms of quality. It is a good thing that three decent Intermediate teams are coming down as the quality has dropped significantly. The premier championships are also not working, in my opinion. The games have lost the bit of championship feel that they had. I would be in favour of returning to the previous systems of Junior A, B C, D, and also having the B leagues. The stronger second teams, Ratoath, Dunboyne and Ashbourne are running away with games in the present format. Don/Ash and Dunboyne were both strong Intermediate teams and should have been left their. Ratoath had also just won the Junior B championship and on the current form would have most definitely won the Junior A championship with ease in my opinion. Instead we have average Junior teams playing each other in the A championship and the very strong second teams blitzing everyone in the meaningless premier championship. I can tell you now a player would have much fonder memories looking back winning a Junior B Championship medal rather than a 'Premier Division 1 or whatever it is called'. The current format is doing nobody any good in my opinion and should be reverted.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 16/09/2021 15:18:35    2381111

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "Have to say the Junior Championship has hit an all time low in terms of quality. It is a good thing that three decent Intermediate teams are coming down as the quality has dropped significantly. The premier championships are also not working, in my opinion. The games have lost the bit of championship feel that they had. I would be in favour of returning to the previous systems of Junior A, B C, D, and also having the B leagues. The stronger second teams, Ratoath, Dunboyne and Ashbourne are running away with games in the present format. Don/Ash and Dunboyne were both strong Intermediate teams and should have been left their. Ratoath had also just won the Junior B championship and on the current form would have most definitely won the Junior A championship with ease in my opinion. Instead we have average Junior teams playing each other in the A championship and the very strong second teams blitzing everyone in the meaningless premier championship. I can tell you now a player would have much fonder memories looking back winning a Junior B Championship medal rather than a 'Premier Division 1 or whatever it is called'. The current format is doing nobody any good in my opinion and should be reverted."
I totally agree , these premierships are quite meaningless are are just games in a lot of players eyes. The old system of Junior divisions meant something to lads especially if you were Junior A team and you beat a second team from a large senior club which was more than likely an intermediate side .

I know why it was changed but needs to be reversed i thin k

Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 16/09/2021 16:12:02    2381129

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Replying To Bear10:  "I totally agree , these premierships are quite meaningless are are just games in a lot of players eyes. The old system of Junior divisions meant something to lads especially if you were Junior A team and you beat a second team from a large senior club which was more than likely an intermediate side .

I know why it was changed but needs to be reversed i thin k"
While he structure is not idea by any means as currently formatted, in reality no matter how is is done the clubs with big playing numbers will always be strong.
So the Junior clubs should get their act together and work even harder,
Why play in Junior A if you don't have aspirations of playing intermediate / senior at some stage. That should be replicated for all the other divisions . At the end of he day its 15 V 15 excluding subs.

There is no silver bullet here that will fix it

2021 (Meath) - Posts: 11 - 16/09/2021 16:38:09    2381139

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People v quick to write off Castletown, when it starts to get serious they will be in the reckoning. Missing players for various reasons that will be back.

Barney12345 (Meath) - Posts: 33 - 16/09/2021 20:54:54    2381181

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Replying To 2021:  "While he structure is not idea by any means as currently formatted, in reality no matter how is is done the clubs with big playing numbers will always be strong.
So the Junior clubs should get their act together and work even harder,
Why play in Junior A if you don't have aspirations of playing intermediate / senior at some stage. That should be replicated for all the other divisions . At the end of he day its 15 V 15 excluding subs.

There is no silver bullet here that will fix it"
Yes, I agree the senior club second teams will still be strong, but they should be in the Junior A, B and Intermediate championships mixing with first teams, not just walloping other second teams. This all came about because a few Junior teams were unhappy about not being able to win a championship with strong second teams in the way. Its up to the Junior teams first teams to get their house in order and strive to beat these teams and improve standards. Not just complain and win a handy championship in a poor competition. And ironically a lot of the teams who were complaining about the second teams in the Junior A championship have been relegated now anyway or are still fighting down the wrong end of the championship.

BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 997 - 16/09/2021 23:26:19    2381236

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Replying To BigJoe14:  "Yes, I agree the senior club second teams will still be strong, but they should be in the Junior A, B and Intermediate championships mixing with first teams, not just walloping other second teams. This all came about because a few Junior teams were unhappy about not being able to win a championship with strong second teams in the way. Its up to the Junior teams first teams to get their house in order and strive to beat these teams and improve standards. Not just complain and win a handy championship in a poor competition. And ironically a lot of the teams who were complaining about the second teams in the Junior A championship have been relegated now anyway or are still fighting down the wrong end of the championship."
The junior championship is very poor now but when all these intermediate teams come down it will be very strong.

I assume they will have to do a junior B with weaker teams because some of them will struggle badly if they were playing v those teams now in IFC.

Goldback (Meath) - Posts: 58 - 17/09/2021 10:25:49    2381263

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