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Leinster quarter final brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 28/06/2021 14:13:53 2354167 Link 16 |
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Any word on Keogan's injury? He didn't look too good going off against Kildare. Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1362 - 28/06/2021 15:33:04 2354219 Link 19 |
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for goodness sake of course we will beat longford
meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 28/06/2021 21:08:23 2354368 Link 19 |
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Despite all the injuries and suspensions, I find it difficult to see us losing to Longford. Our 2 losses so far have been against good teams (Mayo and Kildare). I would put Longford more at the level of Westmeath (who we beat despite not playing until the last 10 minutes) or Down (who we beat handily even after doing our best to give them a chance through multiple black cards). CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1646 - 28/06/2021 23:14:16 2354404 Link 18 |
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Can't see us beating Longford??
southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 890 - 29/06/2021 07:35:42 2354445 Link 19 |
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Why will we beat Longford ... because we're Meath We went to Longford in 2018 with that attitude and left with our tails between our legs. Missing Conor McGill, Donal Keoghan, brian menton, brian Conlon, Ronan Jones and Shane Walsh. Their back ups aren't up to scratch. Who starts full back? Who plays midfield with Harnan? Who replaces your best player in Keoghan? We often fail to get more than 17 scores a game so unless we get goals we're in trouble... Top sides get 25+ scores. A Longford team who got 25 scores at the weekend and beat Tipperary In a relegation play off. Tipperary the defending Munster champions... brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 29/06/2021 08:04:22 2354446 Link 17 |
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no there are a division 3 team who needed a playoff to avoid division 4 .. we ate a division 2 team who lost out to kildare for division 1 .. yes we have a few missing but we are not as bad as u are painting . stop been so negative
meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 29/06/2021 12:46:34 2354564 Link 19 |
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We're not as bad as i'm painting, you could've fooled me So your only reasoning that we'll win is we're a division 2 team and they're a division 3 team whilst ignoring the fact the beat the Munster champions Tipperary in their playoff final and we lost to Kildare who according the most on here are no good In 2020 and 2021 - we've won 4 games so far beating Wicklow, Kildare, Westmeath and Down. We've drawn 1 v Monaghan and lost 9 games (Dublin *2, Mayo *2, Kerry, Galway, Tyrone, Donegal, Kildare) - as a team they rarely get more than 16 scores in a game which won't win many games - we're missing our full back, 2 midfielders and best player for sunday and one of our best forwards - we've no coherent kick out strategy which every team in the country knows about - with no recognised free taker - no player who can accurately kick 45's on a consistent basis - no player in midfield that can catch clean ball - we've routinely given teams huge head starts in matches of sometimes 8-10 points in games So come on tell us how we'll beat Longford other than they're division 3 and Meath are division 2. Which didn't count for very much when the beat us in 2018. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 29/06/2021 14:05:52 2354611 Link 17 |
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look support your team life is hard enough without reading negative negative comments ..if longford beats us its not down to how good longford are .. if we can't beat longford well we need to forget about it
meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 29/06/2021 14:19:07 2354621 Link 19 |
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I do support my team but i'm not being negative, i'm being realistic. Meath football is in a very bad place and it could be about to get even darker. If longford beat us it is down to how good they are, they'll have deserved their victory on the day and it shows just how bad Meath are and the spot we're in. Your last comment only highlights the ignorance of many, if we can't beat Longford we may give it up, what an insult to Longford and the preparations they've put into winning a match if they do so. I'll ask you again, why should we win this match. Put forth the positive arguments for us winning. You've not provided one at all, other than we're a division 2 team. Have we better players, probably but we're missing some of our best players. Have we better management, its debatable. Have we the ability to win, of course if we play to our potential we do. Are we fitter, i would suggest so. However the intangibles and top 2% in the mind just isn't within many on this current team, there's a streak of pity a mile wide within many which reflects the attitude of their manager. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 29/06/2021 14:48:00 2354627 Link 17 |
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look get back to me Sunday evening .. meath will win this by 8 to 12 points .. we are at a higher level then longford . .. fitness wise and overall football abilities .. there is a good young team there they just need positive support .. if we have beating kildare people like yourself would be jumping up and down ..
meath1977 (Meath) - Posts: 534 - 29/06/2021 15:20:42 2354639 Link 18 |
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From a tactical point of view we play a running game with a holding centre back.will he be left in this role.longford jave a very good half forward line.needs attention so giving them free space will heap more pressure on our full back line. Our unjuries give way to if not playing, panel members i cant see a midfielder full back involved there.so hope god keogie menton good to go. Its a tight one really we are coming off bad defeat they are on role.in navan no spectators evens that up to them.can see sending off in this one usual suspect pressure is on. Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 488 - 29/06/2021 15:35:44 2354649 Link 0 |
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No i wouldn't as i said I'm a realist, we'll simply be the next Roscommon or Galway bumping between division 1 and 2 This standard of Meath football is nowhere close to where i would like it too be. There's plenty of fixable problems that have held us back through this managements reign. The fact he is willing to sacrifice short term gain (a couple of leinster championship wins at best) for long term success (underage leinster and all ireland's) with his treatment of the U20's is testament to how badly organised things are. That U20 team were Leinster minor champions and have a god shot at going all the way this time but he's now taken away hickey and Costello from them and they'll be unlikely to get far. Why? To win one (maybe 2) leinster match, when he know's he's no shot at winning Leinster, its lunacy. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 29/06/2021 15:59:17 2354652 Link 15 |
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On the Top[ic of the upcoming game. One advantage we might have is , if the panel is with Andy , they could pull together & that with the Other advantages that we have mentioned here , despite injuries to important players, Im hoping will be enough for us to get through , The next point is....any assignment for us is tricky in our circumstances . I do believe we are at , yet another crossroads, which is the scary thing. What I don't agree with is , us engaging , post this weekend in who is more wrong or has more responsibility for the (potential) sh*t that we are in , and throwing stones. We had all better take a right good look in the mirror before we start throwing the first stone. the really draining & demoralising thing that I find personally over the last weeks, months & years is our refusal , in the face of setbacks , to firstly Pull together , and then critically self analyse. If we lose Sunday...this will give the Anti Andy brigade huge ammunition to say...." I told ya so...he is a disaster"....and Typically the Anti Andy Camp ...will be the pro Bernie Camp.....so Andy gets beat...proves that Bernie was the man.....No....way too simplistic Guys....and You know what...we are in the dark ages , its still all about personalities , about our own opinions, about opposing camps , and about being proven right …..we had better grow up fast and start to realise that our problems are not insurmountable, that we have a lot of good basic building blocks in place ….Lunacy is doing the same thing over & over & expecting different results. No one person or body has the solution to this thing …..and I can tell ya....anyone that wants to be put up on a pedestal & tell the world how great he is...sure as hell doesn't . , Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 385 - 29/06/2021 16:58:40 2354668 Link 2 |
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ps...not aimed at Your Brian...aimed at Meath GAA fraternity
Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 385 - 29/06/2021 17:18:09 2354677 Link 1 |
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5 years lad same as geezer in armagh and they seem to have the small things worked out.and i care to say they havent had the talent we have.not from winning ulsters anyway.not anti anyone just sick of comingbto these crossroads and the route is the same.
Borderroyal (Meath) - Posts: 488 - 29/06/2021 18:15:11 2354690 Link 0 |
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Think you make some good points there LS. I'm not personally in an anti Andy camp or pro Bernie camp but i think Andy's time is up and we should be considering next steps. Regardless of what happens in the championship its time to move along. Look at the last couple of weeks events i) alleged spitting incident - no case to answer ii) U20's incident - breaking a signed agreement that U20's have access to senior players iii) the chairman of the FRC stepping aside ......... in combination with the failure to address long standing within the senior team, an attitude of derision towards the media i honestly ask how much more has to happen before a decision is made on Andy. As you've said lunacy is doing the same thing over & over & expecting different results. I had high hopes that Andy might've learned something from last year and would address them in the games thus far. And in 4 games its plain to see he hasn't addressed them. Lunacy 101..... Unfortunately i don't think Andy is the only problem that we have. Those above him have serious questions to answer and they haven't answered them. And likely won't address them and continue aboard good ship titanic. There seems to be no review of or future view for the senior manager that we the public are privy too. I'm not saying this isn't the case behind closed doors but I'm not sure if Bernard Flynn is the answer either. He'd assembled a great backroom team and county board had a plan in place and a succession plan. That's totally out the door now with Barry Callaghan and Sean Kelly back in and half the U20 panel disgarded (if other posters are to be believed). There's absolutely no conjoined thinking or plans from the county board, management structures, senior and underage teams. We took a step forward with John McCarthy then scrapped it within months. On Sunday I can only hope for a good result and maybe see that Andy and his team might've addressed some of the issues that are obvious. brian (Meath) - Posts: 1954 - 29/06/2021 18:54:02 2354704 Link 17 |
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I would be very worried about getting a result in the one. Only a VAST improvement will see us win. The Kildare games was nothing short of complete shambles. Its up with the worst loses in recent times. And I don't rate Kildare either they where let do whatever they wanted. When we eventually start to play some where near decent we got back in to game. And could have drawn the game. Not sure where 8 to 12 pints win is coming from. Don't forget a meath that where playing well in 2019 where struggling over offaly in Navan. We lost to Longford recently also. One plus would Newman if he was back it would but direction to our attck and could cause them problems. We might sneaky it but not confident bobkarlgees (Meath) - Posts: 1263 - 29/06/2021 20:38:41 2354730 Link 1 |
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We arent missing keogan or menton
southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 890 - 29/06/2021 21:12:32 2354740 Link 18 |
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The bookies have meath by -8 points handycap and I'm sure they won't be far wrong, some posters overstate the players that are missing, mcgill and keoghan won't be missed going by there performances so far this year, shane walsh is a good prospect but is unproven at intercounty level and you can argue the same for Jones, its a good opportunity for Andy to try something new which is badly needed, meath by 5 to 8 points. Royal.Legend (Meath) - Posts: 666 - 29/06/2021 21:15:57 2354742 Link 0 |