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Kells proving they can do it again year in year out even without 2 players with the county, Lar Wall is a brilliant manger has managed to keep things all going brilliantly he deserves immense credit
Seamus mattimoe shot the lights out last night deserves another chance with meath for sure
I'm backing lar walls men too go one when better this year and do the treble the 2 feis cups and the championship
Dunboyne look strong boosted by return of Gavin McCoy and Donal Lehinan
Simonstown aswell but they are at basically full strength
Ratoath are weak minded I cannot see them doing a 3 peat there too soft they like things coming easy to them especially them Wallace's could be proofing wrong but I think they don't make it to quarter final stage this year watch out
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Replying To Northmeath1993: "Kells proving they can do it again year in year out even without 2 players with the county, Lar Wall is a brilliant manger has managed to keep things all going brilliantly he deserves immense credit
Seamus mattimoe shot the lights out last night deserves another chance with meath for sure
I'm backing lar walls men too go one when better this year and do the treble the 2 feis cups and the championship
Dunboyne look strong boosted by return of Gavin McCoy and Donal Lehinan
Simonstown aswell but they are at basically full strength
Ratoath are weak minded I cannot see them doing a 3 peat there too soft they like things coming easy to them especially them Wallace's could be proofing wrong but I think they don't make it to quarter final stage this year watch out" jazuz NM...talk about an invitation to a row form South Meath
Im happy to post on anything other than YNW so here goes.
Im going beyond title a bit & looking at Champ
Firstly...I think Lar wall has been and is , one of the most consistent & best Managers in the County for quite an amount of Years . Id worry about Kells going to the well for another year...but they have proved me wrong in the past on that score.
On Dunboyne/Simonstown….they will be there again....last 4 , and at that stage its a question of inches. Can Conor O Donoghue get that out of Dunboyne? maybe.
Simonstown...i'll stick my neck out here , and I think they are an injury or two away from being Mid Table. If they keep 2-3 keys guys right...they are Top 4
Ratoath..I think we are fixated with some big names here. My feeling with Ratoath is that they have huge strength in depth., but we outsiders only see the Wallaces, McMahon & McGill. I think they can swap them out & replace them and not drop their overall standard by much......is that enough for 3 in a row,,,,,I think so. Now its early days and Feis Cup is not an ideal ground to get a sense of it , but Brain Farrell is in there for a second Year...they have vast experience , and I would think competition is solid if not fierce .
On the two lads...I said it last yaer...what seemed to happen (from afar) about availability till the latter stages....just looked bizarre.... I don't know how this has gone down with Young Squad Players …..time will tell, and I think how that was handled could also be a big factor
Ratoath though to get the elusive 3.....but I beg the right to look at this prediction again on the eve of Champ
Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 385 - 24/06/2021 12:41:43
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Replying To Thelongwoodslasher: "jazuz NM...talk about an invitation to a row form South Meath
Im happy to post on anything other than YNW so here goes.
Im going beyond title a bit & looking at Champ
Firstly...I think Lar wall has been and is , one of the most consistent & best Managers in the County for quite an amount of Years . Id worry about Kells going to the well for another year...but they have proved me wrong in the past on that score.
On Dunboyne/Simonstown….they will be there again....last 4 , and at that stage its a question of inches. Can Conor O Donoghue get that out of Dunboyne? maybe.
Simonstown...i'll stick my neck out here , and I think they are an injury or two away from being Mid Table. If they keep 2-3 keys guys right...they are Top 4
Ratoath..I think we are fixated with some big names here. My feeling with Ratoath is that they have huge strength in depth., but we outsiders only see the Wallaces, McMahon & McGill. I think they can swap them out & replace them and not drop their overall standard by much......is that enough for 3 in a row,,,,,I think so. Now its early days and Feis Cup is not an ideal ground to get a sense of it , but Brain Farrell is in there for a second Year...they have vast experience , and I would think competition is solid if not fierce .
On the two lads...I said it last yaer...what seemed to happen (from afar) about availability till the latter stages....just looked bizarre.... I don't know how this has gone down with Young Squad Players …..time will tell, and I think how that was handled could also be a big factor
Ratoath though to get the elusive 3.....but I beg the right to look at this prediction again on the eve of Champ" Ratoath are too cocky and arrogant to win 3 ina row don't have what it takes them Wallace's won't play Dunboyne, Kells and Simonstown will all be stronger than them and that's for sure I'm telling you now Dunboyne Kells and Simonstown especially if rumour is true they'll get nash back for later stage these 3 teams have what it takes Ratoath don't losing Shane Duffy in goals a great goalkeeper and a great leader that set the tone there some of them younger lads are already think they've completed meath football achieved all I reckon they'll competently fall of it now as it will go to there heads 0/3 in the Feis cup and with all there population can't deal with missing a few look at Dunboyne missing Jones, 2 McEntees Lavin, Kells last night without likes of Beano the best player in the county, Liam Ferguson, Jordan Muldoon younger brother Adam, Fionn Reilly Barry Tormay who was in with Meath all these have had a go in with county or u20s dont see them crying with half population they just go and get job done
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Replying To Northmeath1993: "Ratoath are too cocky and arrogant to win 3 ina row don't have what it takes them Wallace's won't play Dunboyne, Kells and Simonstown will all be stronger than them and that's for sure I'm telling you now Dunboyne Kells and Simonstown especially if rumour is true they'll get nash back for later stage these 3 teams have what it takes Ratoath don't losing Shane Duffy in goals a great goalkeeper and a great leader that set the tone there some of them younger lads are already think they've completed meath football achieved all I reckon they'll competently fall of it now as it will go to there heads 0/3 in the Feis cup and with all there population can't deal with missing a few look at Dunboyne missing Jones, 2 McEntees Lavin, Kells last night without likes of Beano the best player in the county, Liam Ferguson, Jordan Muldoon younger brother Adam, Fionn Reilly Barry Tormay who was in with Meath all these have had a go in with county or u20s dont see them crying with half population they just go and get job done" Clear, concise and well thought out analysis there alright, people were saying Ratoath didn't have what it takes to win a Keegan Cup in the years before they did, now they have won two your still saying they don't have what it takes, your razor sharp analysis has me struggling to catch my breath
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Replying To Northmeath1993: "Ratoath are too cocky and arrogant to win 3 ina row don't have what it takes them Wallace's won't play Dunboyne, Kells and Simonstown will all be stronger than them and that's for sure I'm telling you now Dunboyne Kells and Simonstown especially if rumour is true they'll get nash back for later stage these 3 teams have what it takes Ratoath don't losing Shane Duffy in goals a great goalkeeper and a great leader that set the tone there some of them younger lads are already think they've completed meath football achieved all I reckon they'll competently fall of it now as it will go to there heads 0/3 in the Feis cup and with all there population can't deal with missing a few look at Dunboyne missing Jones, 2 McEntees Lavin, Kells last night without likes of Beano the best player in the county, Liam Ferguson, Jordan Muldoon younger brother Adam, Fionn Reilly Barry Tormay who was in with Meath all these have had a go in with county or u20s dont see them crying with half population they just go and get job done" ah jazuz NM....I love ya...and im a proud Western Meath Man meself...but your own your own with this row!!!! hahahaha
thanks be to god though for your post ….as either all the connected posts regarding the debacle of last wee are being blocked .or worse….no one cares anymore
so god bless your passion..and if nothing else it will get blood stirring again I hope.
Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 385 - 24/06/2021 13:55:29
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Replying To Northmeath1993: "Kells proving they can do it again year in year out even without 2 players with the county, Lar Wall is a brilliant manger has managed to keep things all going brilliantly he deserves immense credit
Seamus mattimoe shot the lights out last night deserves another chance with meath for sure
I'm backing lar walls men too go one when better this year and do the treble the 2 feis cups and the championship
Dunboyne look strong boosted by return of Gavin McCoy and Donal Lehinan
Simonstown aswell but they are at basically full strength
Ratoath are weak minded I cannot see them doing a 3 peat there too soft they like things coming easy to them especially them Wallace's could be proofing wrong but I think they don't make it to quarter final stage this year watch out" Such nonsense. Not sure any team that is weak minded could win 2 senior championships in a row. I would say this group of Rataoth players are as far away from weak minded as you can get. The McGowans rodgers wyer the wallaces etc have won championship regularly pretty much every year since they were u12 so they are far from weak minded.
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 24/06/2021 14:31:03
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Replying To Thelongwoodslasher: "jazuz NM...talk about an invitation to a row form South Meath
Im happy to post on anything other than YNW so here goes.
Im going beyond title a bit & looking at Champ
Firstly...I think Lar wall has been and is , one of the most consistent & best Managers in the County for quite an amount of Years . Id worry about Kells going to the well for another year...but they have proved me wrong in the past on that score.
On Dunboyne/Simonstown….they will be there again....last 4 , and at that stage its a question of inches. Can Conor O Donoghue get that out of Dunboyne? maybe.
Simonstown...i'll stick my neck out here , and I think they are an injury or two away from being Mid Table. If they keep 2-3 keys guys right...they are Top 4
Ratoath..I think we are fixated with some big names here. My feeling with Ratoath is that they have huge strength in depth., but we outsiders only see the Wallaces, McMahon & McGill. I think they can swap them out & replace them and not drop their overall standard by much......is that enough for 3 in a row,,,,,I think so. Now its early days and Feis Cup is not an ideal ground to get a sense of it , but Brain Farrell is in there for a second Year...they have vast experience , and I would think competition is solid if not fierce .
On the two lads...I said it last yaer...what seemed to happen (from afar) about availability till the latter stages....just looked bizarre.... I don't know how this has gone down with Young Squad Players …..time will tell, and I think how that was handled could also be a big factor
Ratoath though to get the elusive 3.....but I beg the right to look at this prediction again on the eve of Champ" Ratoath are too cocky and arrogant to win 3 ina row don't have what it takes them Wallace's won't play Dunboyne, Kells and Simonstown will all be stronger than them and that's for sure I'm telling you now Dunboyne Kells and Simonstown especially if rumour is true they'll get nash back for later stage these 3 teams have what it takes Ratoath don't losing Shane Duffy in goals a great goalkeeper and a great leader that set the tone there some of them younger lads are already think they've completed meath football achieved all I reckon they'll competently fall of it now as it will go to there heads 0/3 in the Feis cup and with all there population can't deal with missing a few look at Dunboyne missing Jones, 2 McEntees Lavin, Kells last night without likes of Beano the best player in the county, Liam Ferguson, Jordan Muldoon younger brother Adam, Fionn Reilly Barry Tormay who was in with Meath all these have had a go in with county or u20s dont see them crying with half population they just go and get job done
Northmeath1993 (Meath) - Posts: 49 - 24/06/2021 14:33:32
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Replying To Blackspot09: "Such nonsense. Not sure any team that is weak minded could win 2 senior championships in a row. I would say this group of Rataoth players are as far away from weak minded as you can get. The McGowans rodgers wyer the wallaces etc have won championship regularly pretty much every year since they were u12 so they are far from weak minded." That makes no sense ye bias Ratoath head I'd that was the cause as Wallace is about 25 and he hasn't won 7 keegans ina row ye clown
Northmeath1993 (Meath) - Posts: 49 - 24/06/2021 15:28:37
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Replying To Northmeath1993: "Ratoath are too cocky and arrogant to win 3 ina row don't have what it takes them Wallace's won't play Dunboyne, Kells and Simonstown will all be stronger than them and that's for sure I'm telling you now Dunboyne Kells and Simonstown especially if rumour is true they'll get nash back for later stage these 3 teams have what it takes Ratoath don't losing Shane Duffy in goals a great goalkeeper and a great leader that set the tone there some of them younger lads are already think they've completed meath football achieved all I reckon they'll competently fall of it now as it will go to there heads 0/3 in the Feis cup and with all there population can't deal with missing a few look at Dunboyne missing Jones, 2 McEntees Lavin, Kells last night without likes of Beano the best player in the county, Liam Ferguson, Jordan Muldoon younger brother Adam, Fionn Reilly Barry Tormay who was in with Meath all these have had a go in with county or u20s dont see them crying with half population they just go and get job done" LOL
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Replying To Thelongwoodslasher: "ah jazuz NM....I love ya...and im a proud Western Meath Man meself...but your own your own with this row!!!! hahahaha
thanks be to god though for your post ….as either all the connected posts regarding the debacle of last wee are being blocked .or worse….no one cares anymore
so god bless your passion..and if nothing else it will get blood stirring again I hope." This is senior talk you stay out of it intermediate jokers
Northmeath1993 (Meath) - Posts: 49 - 24/06/2021 15:33:18
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Replying To Northmeath1993: "This is senior talk you stay out of it intermediate jokers" oh lordie….is this the County Char or secretary...trying to distract us all?
Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 385 - 24/06/2021 16:19:09
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Replying To Northmeath1993: "That makes no sense ye bias Ratoath head I'd that was the cause as Wallace is about 25 and he hasn't won 7 keegans ina row ye clown" The irony of you telling me my post makes no sense while posting this gibberish... how can a team who are mentally weak win 2 senior championships in a row??
Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 870 - 24/06/2021 16:25:32
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a throw away thread from a throw away account trying to stir the typical north meath (Kells bias) narrative, the same Kells who've not won senior since 1991... who's accusing RATOATH of bottling things and not having the guts for a fight despite them throwing away a county title in 2020..the same RATOATH who've put Kells out of te championship in 2019 and 2020.... who's saying a 35+ year old beano is the best player in the county which if true really highlights how poor things are seeing as he's never been called up by a senior Meath manager...
Kells are perennial chokers pal, i took them years to get out of intermediate and now they can't get over the line at senior... despite having a full panel to pick from for most of that period whilst Ratoath, Dunboyne and Simonstown have has multiple players involved in the county set up..
There's only one team of bottlers in the county and there from Kells
And i say that as a born and raised Kells man...
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Might be an idea to look at the total number of first team players with Ratoath at the minute out with co football and hurling before making what seem to be broad statements. With their commitment to both codes, it punches large holes in their 1st team squads in both football and hurling.
3feetoftimber (Meath) - Posts: 113 - 24/06/2021 17:34:23
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Replying To Northmeath1993: "Ratoath are too cocky and arrogant to win 3 ina row don't have what it takes them Wallace's won't play Dunboyne, Kells and Simonstown will all be stronger than them and that's for sure I'm telling you now Dunboyne Kells and Simonstown especially if rumour is true they'll get nash back for later stage these 3 teams have what it takes Ratoath don't losing Shane Duffy in goals a great goalkeeper and a great leader that set the tone there some of them younger lads are already think they've completed meath football achieved all I reckon they'll competently fall of it now as it will go to there heads 0/3 in the Feis cup and with all there population can't deal with missing a few look at Dunboyne missing Jones, 2 McEntees Lavin, Kells last night without likes of Beano the best player in the county, Liam Ferguson, Jordan Muldoon younger brother Adam, Fionn Reilly Barry Tormay who was in with Meath all these have had a go in with county or u20s dont see them crying with half population they just go and get job done" I read this in a Kells accent. It's clearly a parody account of Kells fans. At least I hope it is!
Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1319 - 24/06/2021 18:57:17
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How can Simonstown be mentioned as challengers for honours ???
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Replying To Analyst: "How can Simonstown be mentioned as challengers for honours ???" A lot of these players have two Keegan cup medals, they have everybody bar Conlon and maybe one or two lads on the 20's playing club only so a good chance to build cohesion. There's a strong possibility if they make the knockouts that Conor Nash will play. The two years he played they won the Keegan cup. Colm O'Rourke back managing them. Even in the years since they won back to back, they've gotten to two semi-finals, and last year they may have lost to Nobber but Ratoath only beat them by 1 and Simonstown were ahead for a lot of that game, and if they'd have won they'd have knocked Ratoath out. They've a lot of things going for them to be a contender
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Replying To 3feetoftimber: "Might be an idea to look at the total number of first team players with Ratoath at the minute out with co football and hurling before making what seem to be broad statements. With their commitment to both codes, it punches large holes in their 1st team squads in both football and hurling." Yeah, you can forget about the games Ratoath has played to date. Missing McGill, McMahon, the Wallaces (if they are playing), Jack Flynn, the 4 McGowans, Cian Rodgers all in with Meath is one of the codes. And I think they might have an under 20 or two. It's a completely different team to the one that will line out in a few weeks
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1464 - 24/06/2021 19:54:23
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I remember a similar thread about teams being bottlers and chokers before the 2019 final. All the talk was then that ratoath were bottlers.
Ive seen countless times over the years on this site how a lot of the town/untraditional/dublin population area teams are bottlers Ratoath, Dunboyne, Simonstown etc. Whereas the likes of Kells and summerhill are never given this label.
I have an awful lot of time for both Kells and Summerhill so I dont mean to run them down at all. Kells are one of the best teams to watch in Meath and have done well relative to their panel and playing pool with this squad. Summerhill are a great rural club who are always at the top end in senior and underage football.
A few years back Simonstown were the perennial bottlers. They had the players but not the metal or guts to win a championship. They won 2 in a row and have been in 4 of the last 5 semi finals yet I dont think got the respect they deserved.
Dunboyne knocked on the door for years and then they took over the bottlers mantle. They lost semi finals and quarter finals they should have won and all of a sudden they hadnt the character to win a championship. then in 2018 they won it and where comfortably the best team in meath that year. They still have a strong squad and will pick up another championship with that group i believe.
Ratoath then took on the Royal county bottlers moniker. They too lost in last 16 and quarter finals they were expected to win. Then they come along and absolutely storm their way to a maiden keegan cup. The following year they pull of an injury time smash and grab to retain the title while down to 14 men.
If Ratoath, Dunboyne, Simonstown, NOM or Don/Ash lost 3 finals in a row they would be christened the mother and father of all bottlers. likewise if they lost a final while being 2 points up and a man up deep into extra time.
Again ive nothing but respect for kells and summerhill but its laughable how perceptions change.
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I can still hear the chants of "Beano Beano Beano ' as the clock ticked down from the kells fans at last year's county final
And then the same chant from the Ratoath fans at the end of the game
Pricless!!!
head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 513 - 25/06/2021 07:47:11
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