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2020 Senior Hurling Final

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Replying To Joe_soap1:  "Cian Rogers was unbelievable.. definitely thought he should have gotten MOTM."
He was absolutely phenomenal.
Unfortunately, too many of our players didn't perform to the same standards as they did in the previous championship games. Only 5 of our players got on the scoresheet compared to 12 Trim players. Had a horrible feeling coming into the game as the delay in playing the final could only have hindered us and it came to pass.

Congratulations to Trim again. Looking at their minors prior to the senior game, I think we're on the cusp on a period of domination from them in the very near future.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 08/08/2021 20:39:06    2368932

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "He was absolutely phenomenal.
Unfortunately, too many of our players didn't perform to the same standards as they did in the previous championship games. Only 5 of our players got on the scoresheet compared to 12 Trim players. Had a horrible feeling coming into the game as the delay in playing the final could only have hindered us and it came to pass.

Congratulations to Trim again. Looking at their minors prior to the senior game, I think we're on the cusp on a period of domination from them in the very near future."
Did Trim not have the same delay?

Greensheen (Meath) - Posts: 58 - 09/08/2021 00:05:13    2368992

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Replying To Greensheen:  "Did Trim not have the same delay?"
Is that a serious question?
Had the game been played last October, Trim would have been without James Toher, a vital player in their win yesterday.
I don't think we'd have been beaten had it been played last October, but we've no one to blame but ourselves for not finishing the job yesterday, especially going 6 up with 10 minutes to go.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 09/08/2021 10:37:14    2369032

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Replying To Greensheen:  "Did Trim not have the same delay?"
I was actually thinking the same myself while reading that post. Not to mention Trim lost one of their best and most influential players during that time. Unbelievable Final well done to both teams it really could have went either way but not sure you can blame a delay which both teams had to deal with on losing the game.

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 1003 - 09/08/2021 10:55:44    2369044

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Well that was some final. great standard set by both clubs and was a lot closer than i thought it would be. Commiserations to Rathoath who probably would have taken the pauldits on another day but Trim were just not to be denied yesterday.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 640 - 09/08/2021 11:04:57    2369046

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "I was actually thinking the same myself while reading that post. Not to mention Trim lost one of their best and most influential players during that time. Unbelievable Final well done to both teams it really could have went either way but not sure you can blame a delay which both teams had to deal with on losing the game."
Well if it had taken place Trim wouldn't have James Toher, Gavin McGowan would be fit and all those young Trim lads wouldn't be as good as yesterday. But it wasn't and Trim are champions. With all the players they have coming through they could win 10 in a row.

latouche25 (Meath) - Posts: 532 - 09/08/2021 12:55:00    2369085

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "Is that a serious question?
Had the game been played last October, Trim would have been without James Toher, a vital player in their win yesterday.
I don't think we'd have been beaten had it been played last October, but we've no one to blame but ourselves for not finishing the job yesterday, especially going 6 up with 10 minutes to go."
James Toher could play one day and not the next, such is the nature of his injury. However you are overlooking another Trim absentee yesterday, Neil Heffernan, had the game been last October, Neil would have been there lurking in the corner. Cuts both ways I think.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1080 - 09/08/2021 13:57:04    2369112

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What a great advert for meath hurling , great game , trim had the luck in semi and luck yesterday and you need luck to win finals , congrats.

Surprised to see excuses from ratoath posters , both teams were down players with covid if final went ahead last year so who knows what would have happened .

Roll on this year , very open champ again with 4 teams that could all win on the day

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 424 - 09/08/2021 17:40:51    2369221

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its probably as open now as it was in the mid 90s when trim, kilmessan, rathmolyon and killyon were all in with a shout

dickie10 (UK) - Posts: 767 - 09/08/2021 18:28:03    2369243

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Replying To dickie10:  "its probably as open now as it was in the mid 90s when trim, kilmessan, rathmolyon and killyon were all in with a shout"
Probably don't even need to go that far back, from 2005 to 2009 we'd 5 different SHC winners in 5 years.

CastleBravo (Meath) - Posts: 1664 - 09/08/2021 19:25:34    2369264

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With the quality of hurling on display yesterday I'm surprised at the lack of players from both clubs involved with the county team.

Foley91 (Meath) - Posts: 418 - 09/08/2021 21:58:39    2369328

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Replying To Foley91:  "With the quality of hurling on display yesterday I'm surprised at the lack of players from both clubs involved with the county team."
What do you mean? The majority of the two clubs made up last years team?

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 640 - 10/08/2021 08:06:34    2369387

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I thought the refereeing left a lot to be desired. If that's the best we have in the county in relation to a hurling official we need to look outside the county for this years.

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 640 - 10/08/2021 08:08:01    2369388

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Replying To Foley91:  "With the quality of hurling on display yesterday I'm surprised at the lack of players from both clubs involved with the county team."
In the last 2 games of the Joe McDonagh i think Trim and Ratoath combined made up 6 or 7 of the starting lineups with a couple more on the bench for game day including Podge who was coming on as an impact sub.

Amarach (Meath) - Posts: 50 - 10/08/2021 10:19:42    2369411

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First of all , im bitterly disappointed for both our Teams Minor and Senior it just didnt happen for us on the day
Im not one for excuses . . I couldnt fault any of our lads , some of them shouldnt of even been on the pitch with injuries but didnt want to miss out on the opportuinity to Win a Jubilee Cup . . thought Cian Rogers were brilliant on Sunday
Think there is a Senior Cup in this Squad and hopefully they can pick it up and go again

The lads gave everything and threw the Kitchen sink and to lose it after 80 mins hurling with the puck of a ball is heart breaking . .

But what a match , one of the best games ive seen in years never mind final . . ebbed and flowed . . Ratoath would get on Top , then Trim
Some absolutely sensational scores from both sides , tackles were flying . . nothing dirty though
Same last time we played in PT 2 years ago where Trim came out on top and there was only a puck of a ball then too

Congrats to Trim , a brilliant side who could possibly dominate for a few years after lookin at their minors
Pints will be flying over that side of the Boyne and well deserved too

lagoreX (Meath) - Posts: 222 - 10/08/2021 12:22:43    2369486

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Unbelievable game, super atmosphere, and played in the right spirit. Cian Rogers was borderline unmarkable, Ben and Daithi McGowan were brilliant at either end of the field. Midfield was a battleground. Toher was at his best for Trim and then Dougie was class throughout, in all the positions that he played at different times. Thought Ratoath looked the fitter and stronger team but overall Trim had the better hurlers.

Regarding Trim dominating, I believe that's 4 of the last 5 minor titles, including 3 in a row now complete. 9 or 10 of the Meath U20 squad is Trim and there are a good few on the extended Senior panel as well. Keeping them all playing will be a challenge, but it's not a bad place to be starting from.

Ratoath similarly though are in a good spot, with lots of good young players coming through. This year's minor team is a great outfit again so reckon we can look forward to some great battles over the next few years.

Amarach (Meath) - Posts: 50 - 10/08/2021 13:15:04    2369505

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Replying To Amarach:  "Unbelievable game, super atmosphere, and played in the right spirit. Cian Rogers was borderline unmarkable, Ben and Daithi McGowan were brilliant at either end of the field. Midfield was a battleground. Toher was at his best for Trim and then Dougie was class throughout, in all the positions that he played at different times. Thought Ratoath looked the fitter and stronger team but overall Trim had the better hurlers.

Regarding Trim dominating, I believe that's 4 of the last 5 minor titles, including 3 in a row now complete. 9 or 10 of the Meath U20 squad is Trim and there are a good few on the extended Senior panel as well. Keeping them all playing will be a challenge, but it's not a bad place to be starting from.

Ratoath similarly though are in a good spot, with lots of good young players coming through. This year's minor team is a great outfit again so reckon we can look forward to some great battles over the next few years."
Hopefully other teams can come through also otherwise it will become boring

Bear10 (Meath) - Posts: 463 - 10/08/2021 13:41:17    2369512

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Replying To Irish_downunder:  "I thought the refereeing left a lot to be desired. If that's the best we have in the county in relation to a hurling official we need to look outside the county for this years."
I thought the same watching the game in PT live.

However, I watched most of the game last evening on youtube and have to say that he was not as bad as I thought - I think he got most of the calls right but was a bit nervous and indecisive at times. A game like that is so so hard to referree and a ref needs to be as fit as the players. Not sure what Pat's age is but he also put in a decent shift on Sunday.

Regarding the game - what a finish! Ratoath led for most of the game and Trim led for the first time in the 32nd minute of the second half - perhaps Pat should have allowed one more play at the end of normal time and Toher was ready to hoover the ball up.

Alan Douglas' last score was fitting to win any game and it was best to avoid penalties though Ratoath probably wouldnt agree. Douglas, Toher and Cian Rogers were outstanding throughout and a joint man of the match would have been fitting. Hard luck to Ratoath but delighted that Trim broke the duck of recent years.

Going forward all this talk of Trim dominance is maybe premature - they could/should have lost to Kildalkey in the semi, very close also with Ratoath who have good underage also and there is certainly life in Kiltale yet. Not to forget Na Fianna who have been improving also.

stillaroyal (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 10/08/2021 14:53:56    2369550

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Replying To stillaroyal:  "I thought the same watching the game in PT live.

However, I watched most of the game last evening on youtube and have to say that he was not as bad as I thought - I think he got most of the calls right but was a bit nervous and indecisive at times. A game like that is so so hard to referree and a ref needs to be as fit as the players. Not sure what Pat's age is but he also put in a decent shift on Sunday.

Regarding the game - what a finish! Ratoath led for most of the game and Trim led for the first time in the 32nd minute of the second half - perhaps Pat should have allowed one more play at the end of normal time and Toher was ready to hoover the ball up.

Alan Douglas' last score was fitting to win any game and it was best to avoid penalties though Ratoath probably wouldnt agree. Douglas, Toher and Cian Rogers were outstanding throughout and a joint man of the match would have been fitting. Hard luck to Ratoath but delighted that Trim broke the duck of recent years.

Going forward all this talk of Trim dominance is maybe premature - they could/should have lost to Kildalkey in the semi, very close also with Ratoath who have good underage also and there is certainly life in Kiltale yet. Not to forget Na Fianna who have been improving also."
talk of Tirm dominance is completely premature, not just maybe...

Amarach (Meath) - Posts: 50 - 10/08/2021 15:13:30    2369560

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Refs cant win , you have pat trying to let it go and some give out , you have other refs that blow with the hint of contact and more give out.

If you look at the top counties games , the refs let it go , makes a proper game
You go to meath a certain refs want to blow everything and make free takers look like gods , some id swear do it for attention.

conor ferguson , red reilly and from what i seen of ciaran flynn this year are what the players want , mayby not the free takers or the lighter teams

hurlit (Meath) - Posts: 424 - 10/08/2021 15:45:57    2369575

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