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Best of luck in championship lads some fine players on your panel played some good football yesterday
Lad79 (Monaghan) - Posts: 52 - 26/10/2020 10:41:05
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A lot of very good posts lads. Some great talking points going forward. In my view the positives;
1) Meath have a very promising young squad, dynamic players all over the pitch. I was very impressed by Jones yesterday. His ability to challenge the high ball and play the traditional midfielder's game freed up Menton to play in the loose half-forward areas he likes. In the backs we have an ever-growing pool of talent; Hickey is also very impressive and Harrkin vs Dublin too. Likewise Scully. Morris could well be a big name for the future. He was very good yesterday and looks like he is our main attacking threat going forward. O'Reilly is trusty with free kicks. Shane Walsh is another potentially top drawer player. Couple all of these new and relatively new names with the more experienced names and you have a belter of a squad. This league campaign has unearthed serious diversity for us in the panel. We didnt win a game but we've still progressed.
2) Meath looked sharp and physical in this campaign. They have gradually become a vastly more physical side under McEntee. 3) The squad can yet become stronger still. There are quality players who'll be coming back into the fray.
Negatives:
1) goalkeeping/kickouts: still an accident waiting to happen. We are unbelievably shaky on our own kickouts to the extent that any team can hurt us. Still our greatest issue.
2)I hate being seen to be putting down players.
3) Shellshock in front of goal/ wasted goal chances and too many wides in general.
4) too many elementary errors in general gameplay.
5) Going in and out of matches. Controlling the intensity.
6) Labouring too much in general gameplay and having to work harder than our opposition to put scores on the board.
All of these reasons are why Meath still belong in Division 2. We had a good crack at it and are ever-improving but we arent up to this level yet. I dont think we're necessarily a worse team that half of Division 1 but the above issues are the difference in my opinion.
Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 587 - 26/10/2020 10:41:17
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McGill has a poor game. Wouldn't be writing him off, also thought keoghan was below his normal high standards for him (what is it with Monaghan?). I think if you looked hard for Donals worst performances over the years you would probably Find 3 maybe 4 bad games. And 3 of them were against Monaghan.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/10/2020 10:45:25
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Replying To Greensheen: "Not sure how huge having Mc Gill back was. And still not sure we have a ready replacement. Keoghan probably has to go to six. James McEntee in wing back. Joey Wallace is probably ahead of Scully at this point but Scully will get there hopefully. Morris put up his hand for the inside forward line. Goalkeeping was good and is the best option. As for midfield, looked very solid. I cannot remember the last time we had a midfielder who looks as good as Jones. Possibly twenty years. If he can improve what a prospect." McGill wasnt at his best yesterday But hes a quality full back. He will deliver.McEntee has to go without doubt ! I would be reluctant to move Keoghan ! Wing back gives him the licence to go forward and Wouldnt want to restrict that ! Harnan or Conlan at 6 for me ! With Hickey playing at wingback too.Completly agree with Jones he looks really good ! Menton is playing great football too ! Very good partnership. Agreed having seen Scully in the last 2 games I wouldnt be starting him the next day. Also thought that Costello looked a good prospect !
1.Colgan
2.Lavin
3.McGill
4.Toner/Harkin/Gallagher
5.Hickey
6.Harnan/Conlan/Ryan
7.Keoghan
8.Menton
9.Jones
10.Ryan/Campion/Devine
11.McMahon
12.O'Sullivan
13.Morris/Lenihan/Wallace
14.Walsh
15.O'Reilly
grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 26/10/2020 10:54:13
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Replying To Greensheen: "Not sure how huge having Mc Gill back was. And still not sure we have a ready replacement. Keoghan probably has to go to six. James McEntee in wing back. Joey Wallace is probably ahead of Scully at this point but Scully will get there hopefully. Morris put up his hand for the inside forward line. Goalkeeping was good and is the best option. As for midfield, looked very solid. I cannot remember the last time we had a midfielder who looks as good as Jones. Possibly twenty years. If he can improve what a prospect." Jones was like Jack O Sé at times yesterday. What a footballer!
Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1316 - 26/10/2020 10:55:09
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The team is clearly improving and its great to see but -----
CMAN1570 (Meath) - Posts: 53 - 26/10/2020 11:43:08
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "Who are the options you'd put in goals that would be much better than either Colgan or Brennan?" I already mentioned when it was asked about keepers at lower grades in a previous post that Pluck from Ballinabrackey, Scully St. Brigids and the Slane keeper are all better than Colgan or Brennan. Ultans keeper also quite good and apart from Pluck, these are all junior keepers.
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 507 - 26/10/2020 13:20:10
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Don't know what people want re mcentee, he had a so so game yesterday. At the moment he is filling in , same when he was put into midfield.
I haven't answered anyone about the disgusting accusations of nepotism, I feel such talk is beneath some Meath supporters but I was obviously wrong.
I suppose when you see one poster who said he hoped Meath would never win anything again saying it, it shows the levels some are prepared to go to do down our team and management.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/10/2020 13:54:40
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Replying To grahamc9897: "McGill wasnt at his best yesterday But hes a quality full back. He will deliver. I would be reluctant to move Keoghan ! Wing back gives him the licence to go forward and Wouldnt want to restrict that ! Harnan or Conlan at 6 for me ! With Hickey playing at wingback too.Completly agree with Jones he looks really good ! Menton is playing great football too ! Very good partnership. Agreed having seen Scully in the last 2 games I wouldnt be starting him the next day. Also thought that Costello looked a good prospect !
1.Colgan
2.Lavin
3.McGill
4.Toner/Harkin/Gallagher
5.Hickey
6.Harnan/Conlan/Ryan
7.Keoghan
8.Menton
9.Jones
10.Ryan/Campion/Devine
11.McMahon
12.O'Sullivan
13.Morris/Lenihan/Wallace
14.Walsh
15.O'Reilly" No James McEntee? A certain starter in my opinion.
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 507 - 26/10/2020 14:06:46
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Replying To grahamc9897: "McGill wasnt at his best yesterday But hes a quality full back. He will deliver. I would be reluctant to move Keoghan ! Wing back gives him the licence to go forward and Wouldnt want to restrict that ! Harnan or Conlan at 6 for me ! With Hickey playing at wingback too.Completly agree with Jones he looks really good ! Menton is playing great football too ! Very good partnership. Agreed having seen Scully in the last 2 games I wouldnt be starting him the next day. Also thought that Costello looked a good prospect !
1.Colgan
2.Lavin
3.McGill
4.Toner/Harkin/Gallagher
5.Hickey
6.Harnan/Conlan/Ryan
7.Keoghan
8.Menton
9.Jones
10.Ryan/Campion/Devine
11.McMahon
12.O'Sullivan
13.Morris/Lenihan/Wallace
14.Walsh
15.O'Reilly" That team you've made there, with the right tactics and coaching (kickout strategy, attacking strategy etc) plus focus and motivation, should win promotion to Div 1 again next year.
Crinigan (Meath) - Posts: 1316 - 26/10/2020 14:08:34
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Replying To royaldunne: "Don't know what people want re mcentee, he had a so so game yesterday. At the moment he is filling in , same when he was put into midfield.
I haven't answered anyone about the disgusting accusations of nepotism, I feel such talk is beneath some Meath supporters but I was obviously wrong.
I suppose when you see one poster who said he hoped Meath would never win anything again saying it, it shows the levels some are prepared to go to do down our team and management." agree with RD here. I know its a forum , but jaz lads , lets tone it down a bit. For as long as I can remember, and for every squad, Club & county , there have been lads involved that one could raise an eyebrow or two about. But we have no clue what these guys bring to a Team, a panel or a squad setup , the defining issue is whether we trust the Management TEAM to make the right call on who is involved or not......now we may have a different view (from afar) but to suggest that an individual is in the squad simply because of his family connection is low and one can be forgiven in thinking that it may be more about an attack on andy as anything else.
Thelongwoodslasher (Meath) - Posts: 384 - 26/10/2020 14:32:42
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Replying To winatallcost: "I already mentioned when it was asked about keepers at lower grades in a previous post that Pluck from Ballinabrackey, Scully St. Brigids and the Slane keeper are all better than Colgan or Brennan. Ultans keeper also quite good and apart from Pluck, these are all junior keepers." Do you honestly think that Pluck, Scully or the other keepers you mentioned going in on their senior inter county debut would have done better than Colgan did yesterday. Because I say there's no chance. And this goes for all the forum. Can we stop talking about lads who aren't there and focus on the lads who are (including lads that could come back from injury).
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1454 - 26/10/2020 14:46:13
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Replying To royaldunne: "Don't know what people want re mcentee, he had a so so game yesterday. At the moment he is filling in , same when he was put into midfield.
I haven't answered anyone about the disgusting accusations of nepotism, I feel such talk is beneath some Meath supporters but I was obviously wrong.
I suppose when you see one poster who said he hoped Meath would never win anything again saying it, it shows the levels some are prepared to go to do down our team and management." In fairness to S Mac he is a good squad player and played his part in our promotion from Div. Two, type of player who can fill in when required and always tries his best, is he a nailed on starter? no, and will drop to bench when others recover from injury or show required form. Our backs had a poor enough outing yesterday, so plenty of room for improvement without the need to single out any individual player.
seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2136 - 26/10/2020 14:52:35
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Replying To winatallcost: "I already mentioned when it was asked about keepers at lower grades in a previous post that Pluck from Ballinabrackey, Scully St. Brigids and the Slane keeper are all better than Colgan or Brennan. Ultans keeper also quite good and apart from Pluck, these are all junior keepers." Not one of those keepers are better than Andy Colgan or Brennan. It's all about kick outs and Andy Colgans are the best in the county that is available to us. The only other keeper's I would have ahead of Andy Colgan are Shane Geraghty (Na Fianna) and Paddy O'Rourke, neither of which will make themselves available to the county squad.
BigJoe14 (Meath) - Posts: 932 - 26/10/2020 15:13:37
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Replying To winatallcost: "No James McEntee? A certain starter in my opinion." Realised after I posted I forgot about him.
James would be an option at half back or half forward..Starting for sure
grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 26/10/2020 16:01:04
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Replying To Thelongwoodslasher: "agree with RD here. I know its a forum , but jaz lads , lets tone it down a bit. For as long as I can remember, and for every squad, Club & county , there have been lads involved that one could raise an eyebrow or two about. But we have no clue what these guys bring to a Team, a panel or a squad setup , the defining issue is whether we trust the Management TEAM to make the right call on who is involved or not......now we may have a different view (from afar) but to suggest that an individual is in the squad simply because of his family connection is low and one can be forgiven in thinking that it may be more about an attack on andy as anything else." Exactly
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/10/2020 16:18:32
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Replying To seadog54: "In fairness to S Mac he is a good squad player and played his part in our promotion from Div. Two, type of player who can fill in when required and always tries his best, is he a nailed on starter? no, and will drop to bench when others recover from injury or show required form. Our backs had a poor enough outing yesterday, so plenty of room for improvement without the need to single out any individual player." Yep I actually agree with you, he is really only filling in until harnan or his cousin is back to fitness.
On the backs I also agree. Perhaps worst performance from the backs since the Longford game. Appeared disjointed compared to Dublin game. But willing to cut them some slack as it was the first Game with this unit since March.
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/10/2020 16:22:01
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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99: "Do you honestly think that Pluck, Scully or the other keepers you mentioned going in on their senior inter county debut would have done better than Colgan did yesterday. Because I say there's no chance. And this goes for all the forum. Can we stop talking about lads who aren't there and focus on the lads who are (including lads that could come back from injury)." The point is not just about yesterday. This issue is almost two years old and I am 100% confident if any of those lads were brought in earlier and given time would be better than what we have.
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 507 - 26/10/2020 16:26:12
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Replying To BigJoe14: "Not one of those keepers are better than Andy Colgan or Brennan. It's all about kick outs and Andy Colgans are the best in the county that is available to us. The only other keeper's I would have ahead of Andy Colgan are Shane Geraghty (Na Fianna) and Paddy O'Rourke, neither of which will make themselves available to the county squad." I disagree. Unfortunately we are likely to see proof of this as we go on. Brennan is 36/37 and Colgan made serious errors v Dublin, Donegal and Mayo last year which ended up contributing to heavy defeats that performances didn't deserve.
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 507 - 26/10/2020 16:30:27
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Replying To grahamc9897: "McGill wasnt at his best yesterday But hes a quality full back. He will deliver. I would be reluctant to move Keoghan ! Wing back gives him the licence to go forward and Wouldnt want to restrict that ! Harnan or Conlan at 6 for me ! With Hickey playing at wingback too.Completly agree with Jones he looks really good ! Menton is playing great football too ! Very good partnership. Agreed having seen Scully in the last 2 games I wouldnt be starting him the next day. Also thought that Costello looked a good prospect !
1.Colgan
2.Lavin
3.McGill
4.Toner/Harkin/Gallagher
5.Hickey
6.Harnan/Conlan/Ryan
7.Keoghan
8.Menton
9.Jones
10.Ryan/Campion/Devine
11.McMahon
12.O'Sullivan
13.Morris/Lenihan/Wallace
14.Walsh
15.O'Reilly" If we had a squad injury-free you could have that starting 15. Toner, Harkin, James McEntee, Shane McEntee, Ross Ryan, Brian Conlon, Campion, Devine, Lenihan, Joey Wallace, Matt Costello, Jack O'Connor, Banty Conlon, Dardis and then maybe Mattimoe, Aaron Lynch, Oisin Reilly and maybe a young goalkeeper if they made themselves available. All of a sudden we seemed to have unearthed a pretty solid squad
LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 1454 - 26/10/2020 17:48:39
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