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Minor Championship 2020

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Replying To browncows:  "There are no guarantees when it comes to winning the Keeghan cup. Now they have made a very good start with their underage, however that will depend on how the players progress and look after themselves (U21 will be better indicator of progression) It will also depend on having good people involved in their adult football. Possibly one of the best minor teams in a number of years have yet to win a Keeghan cup. If I am correct Dun/Ash won a Leinster minor title. The best of luck to all and generally you get the rewards for the effort put in."
Didn't say anything about a Keegan Cup. Just about these young lads improving the Cilles team a lot. Fairly sure under 21 is scrapped for good and it's an under 19 now so that may further hurt development

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 858 - 12/09/2020 13:47:42    2291688

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Replying To browncows:  "There are no guarantees when it comes to winning the Keeghan cup. Now they have made a very good start with their underage, however that will depend on how the players progress and look after themselves (U21 will be better indicator of progression) It will also depend on having good people involved in their adult football. Possibly one of the best minor teams in a number of years have yet to win a Keeghan cup. If I am correct Dun/Ash won a Leinster minor title. The best of luck to all and generally you get the rewards for the effort put in."
Cilles were in final in 2018 and got hammered with a very poor Minor team and they were in final last year and won it but Summerhill were the way better side for long periods and only for Bell and their Goalkeeper they would have been beat. They were very lucky to win. So you can win the Minor and it not translate to Senior.

But this is unreal team, they have been playing this way since U12', U13 and all way up and have great players 1-20. This team should translate to Senior but you need the right people over them at Senior. Senior football is altogether different challenge

Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 12/09/2020 14:36:58    2291690

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Replying To bearindsquare:  "Another very one sided game here by the looks of the scoreline. Hopefully Dunshaughlin were resting a few in round 3 so we can at least get a competitive final."
I'd say they tested the waters then left a few lads off, they were winning at half time then conceded 4-4 while only scoring twice during the 3rd quarter.

Greengiant99 (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 12/09/2020 16:59:44    2291708

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Replying To Talking_Sense:  "Cilles were in final in 2018 and got hammered with a very poor Minor team and they were in final last year and won it but Summerhill were the way better side for long periods and only for Bell and their Goalkeeper they would have been beat. They were very lucky to win. So you can win the Minor and it not translate to Senior.

But this is unreal team, they have been playing this way since U12', U13 and all way up and have great players 1-20. This team should translate to Senior but you need the right people over them at Senior. Senior football is altogether different challenge"
Don't be counting your chickens
Underage success is no guarantee of senior success
Currently cilles are a mile off at senior and the standard in Meath is getting better and better
The current minors may never ever line out at senior and even if thy do they may not be any good
Enjoy the underage at the moment and don't be expecting more

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 456 - 12/09/2020 20:45:42    2291734

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Lots of talk about stepping up to senior, about this bunch of players from cilles, but club gripes a side , not from cilles but it's a long time since I've seen a more accomplished and comfortable minor side at all positions. Dunboyne not a bad side but made look so so average.
If you watched the game and if your a football fan you can't but admire the way they played. If I was the current Meath senior manager and I was at the game you would say the future is very very bright. 5,7, 8, 9, 11,12 , 13,14 ,15 already look the finished articles. Balance , composure and class. I say well done to who ever coached and coaching them. Joy to watch. Really looking forward to the final if that standard is anything to go by.
A real neutral would enjoy this crop of players. Talking about winning a senior championship maybe a bit early but Ratoath had the same conveyer belt and they are where they are because of minor success.
Dunsaughlin also with a great win. Future of Meath football looks brighter and that's what this forum should be praising.

fitspert (Meath) - Posts: 20 - 13/09/2020 00:13:49    2291780

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Replying To Talking_Sense:  "Cilles were in final in 2018 and got hammered with a very poor Minor team and they were in final last year and won it but Summerhill were the way better side for long periods and only for Bell and their Goalkeeper they would have been beat. They were very lucky to win. So you can win the Minor and it not translate to Senior.

But this is unreal team, they have been playing this way since U12', U13 and all way up and have great players 1-20. This team should translate to Senior but you need the right people over them at Senior. Senior football is altogether different challenge"
Have to agree with @fitspert. These lads are only 16 or 17 so the conversation about senior is a bit premature. That said I watched that stream of the game vs Dunboyne the other night (fair play to Meath GAA) and it was a pleasure to watch. Those lads are certainly going very well this year and played a lovely style of football. well done to all involved! Didn't get to see that Dunshaughlin game but they too won well. I would say we are in for a cracking Div 1 final. Hopefully we will have a live stream!

Meath2020 (Meath) - Posts: 6 - 14/09/2020 13:42:07    2292027

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Yes it is a different ball game going from Minor to Senior and in reality there should be an under 19 competition for all these Minor lads coming through. The County Board are reluctant to run an under 19 competition as they fear it will hurt the small Junior clubs trying to field both an under 19 and Junior team, well then make it optional to opt in but it is needed for the bigger clubs who have three and four Junior teams . So an under 19 competition with maybe them 10 or 15 clubs in two three divisions and in doing so also accommodate Development of players in larger clubs, not be making decisions all the time to accommodate smaller clubs, in this case those smaller clubs will have the opt in option.
Getting back to Friday nights game(which the Meath GAA streaming/picture/commentary/graphics was first class) St. Colmcilles looked like a right good Minor team and as mentioned in the commentary look as good a Minor team as has been seen in Meath in many a year and looking at that game the future for Meath football looks good.
Dunshaughlin will have be some team to turn around a 15 points defeat a weeks ago against St. Colmcilles to lift the Delaney Cup. I look forward to an epic final.

Meathball (Meath) - Posts: 36 - 14/09/2020 17:49:59    2292093

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Replying To Meathball:  "Yes it is a different ball game going from Minor to Senior and in reality there should be an under 19 competition for all these Minor lads coming through. The County Board are reluctant to run an under 19 competition as they fear it will hurt the small Junior clubs trying to field both an under 19 and Junior team, well then make it optional to opt in but it is needed for the bigger clubs who have three and four Junior teams . So an under 19 competition with maybe them 10 or 15 clubs in two three divisions and in doing so also accommodate Development of players in larger clubs, not be making decisions all the time to accommodate smaller clubs, in this case those smaller clubs will have the opt in option.
Getting back to Friday nights game(which the Meath GAA streaming/picture/commentary/graphics was first class) St. Colmcilles looked like a right good Minor team and as mentioned in the commentary look as good a Minor team as has been seen in Meath in many a year and looking at that game the future for Meath football looks good.
Dunshaughlin will have be some team to turn around a 15 points defeat a weeks ago against St. Colmcilles to lift the Delaney Cup. I look forward to an epic final."
We don't need an under 19 competition we need an under20 just like county
We moved with minor now we should move with 20s

head4dblackspot (Meath) - Posts: 456 - 14/09/2020 21:00:09    2292117

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Replying To head4dblackspot:  "We don't need an under 19 competition we need an under20 just like county
We moved with minor now we should move with 20s"
The whole age group after Minor needs to be looked at. It has been an issue for a while - not just in Meath but around the country.

If we play an under 20 competition now, many of those players will be overage for Under 20 county next year! I think that could be why the county board is looking at an under 19 competition towards year end as all of those players are eligible to play Under 20 county the following year and therefore it is helpful to the management team to watch a 19's competition.

However, I think it is a big step up for lads finishing up at minor and moving to adult football. It is amazing what that one year can do. I really noticed it in our club this year - the lads (not all) progressing from under 17, physically struggle playing Junior football.

Traditionally, the under 21 started after the championships ended, so there was no clash with Senior, Intermediate or Junior. The final for the last number of years, from what I can remember, was held in December and the bigger clash came with colleges football. In the case of Meath at under 20 this year, I think it meant that Ger Robinson couldn't get his County under 20's together until after Christmas (or maybe this was because he was late being appointed!)

I know also there is concern for some of the smaller clubs, in terms of fielding at under 19 - but isn't that where grading can come in? Also, why not run 13 a side championships for clubs struggling with numbers - or even an 11 a side and narrow the pitch!

That said, I liked the Under 21 age group - I actually think it makes more sense to have that gap under 17 to under 21.

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 318 - 15/09/2020 10:29:36    2292175

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why all this moving around of Competitions/age groups effecting the same bunch of players 99,00,01's , the move from Minor to 17 effected the 00's, now talk of the 21's going to 19's effecting the 99's and the County firstly moving the 21's to 20's effecting the 99's and the latest is that might go back to 19's meaning the current crop of 20's for next season (who in Meath won Leinster at 17's) will miss out!!

what are the GAA doing are they trying to **** all these Players off, this coming during Covid when they didn't get to finish their college Freshers season and the chance of college football this winter looking doubtful?

ABD09 (Meath) - Posts: 52 - 15/09/2020 11:11:44    2292186

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Replying To ABD09:  "why all this moving around of Competitions/age groups effecting the same bunch of players 99,00,01's , the move from Minor to 17 effected the 00's, now talk of the 21's going to 19's effecting the 99's and the County firstly moving the 21's to 20's effecting the 99's and the latest is that might go back to 19's meaning the current crop of 20's for next season (who in Meath won Leinster at 17's) will miss out!!

what are the GAA doing are they trying to **** all these Players off, this coming during Covid when they didn't get to finish their college Freshers season and the chance of college football this winter looking doubtful?"
That is a good point too! It has impacted in particular that group of lads 00,01 (The '99 at least got their under 18 minor championship)

ASaminthehand (Meath) - Posts: 318 - 15/09/2020 11:28:34    2292192

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Back to the subject please lads and lasies. Great achievement for Dunshaughlin to break back into the top clubs at minor level after a good few disappointing years. Win or lose it's a great lift to all at the club. Best of luck to the players and mgnt in the final.

aghref (Meath) - Posts: 118 - 15/09/2020 12:08:11    2292208

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Replying To aghref:  "Back to the subject please lads and lasies. Great achievement for Dunshaughlin to break back into the top clubs at minor level after a good few disappointing years. Win or lose it's a great lift to all at the club. Best of luck to the players and mgnt in the final."
Any idea on a date for the final yet?

_intolerant_ (Meath) - Posts: 3 - 15/09/2020 12:17:51    2292210

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Replying To _intolerant_:  "Any idea on a date for the final yet?"
Final is next Sunday at 1pm in Pairc Tailtean.

Meathball (Meath) - Posts: 36 - 20/09/2020 22:06:10    2293297

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Replying To Meathball:  "Final is next Sunday at 1pm in Pairc Tailtean."
Hopefully there's a stream, I'd imagine they'll have it after having the semis.

bearindsquare (Meath) - Posts: 47 - 23/09/2020 19:44:49    2293827

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Replying To bearindsquare:  "Hopefully there's a stream, I'd imagine they'll have it after having the semis."
It's on Meath GAA TV at 1pm on Sunday and the charge for that game on its own is €5.

Meathball (Meath) - Posts: 36 - 24/09/2020 00:01:21    2293849

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Replying To Meathball:  "It's on Meath GAA TV at 1pm on Sunday and the charge for that game on its own is €5."
This should be a cracking game! Cilles will start as favourites but I am sure Dunshaughlin will put up a better game than they did in the group stage. I think that game was largely irrelevant. Both teams knew they were way ahead of the teams in the other group and once they had both beaten Ratoath, I think they knew they were set for a final showdown! I'd say the Dunshaughlin loss though was concerning for them! I can't see them being as porous in the final - but I still think Cilles will win it - they are a quality team.

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 286 - 24/09/2020 12:35:28    2293902

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Don Ashbourne v Navan O'Mahonys on Meath gaa page tonight. Minor panel also announced in finals programme on Meath website with Eoghan Frayne from Summer hill captain. 9 lads between the two teams for division one final Sunday.

bearindsquare (Meath) - Posts: 47 - 25/09/2020 08:50:29    2293981

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Replying To bearindsquare:  "Don Ashbourne v Navan O'Mahonys on Meath gaa page tonight. Minor panel also announced in finals programme on Meath website with Eoghan Frayne from Summer hill captain. 9 lads between the two teams for division one final Sunday."
Disgrace to ashbourne players on the panel

GerryAshbourne (Meath) - Posts: 4 - 25/09/2020 10:03:02    2293989

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Replying To GerryAshbourne:  "Disgrace to ashbourne players on the panel"
Are you saying it's a disgrace that no Ashbourne players on the panel?

Greengiant99 (Meath) - Posts: 15 - 25/09/2020 13:07:19    2294021

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