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Replying To Kepak10:  "And James Conlon wasn't ? He was doubled up on and manhandled as much as McCarthy was. On one occasion McCoy tripped him in the second half 30 yards in front of goal right in front of Coldrick. No free. If Banty had have turned him (which he did all day) he would have been in on goal."
Yes ur right I agree with u. That's my point he was fair and missed frees for both teams. I was disagreeing with you that he gave dunboyne basically everything in the 2nd half which wasn't the case . Missed several fouls on McCarthy in the 2nd half as he did on conlon. What cost cilles was they were 1 up In injury time and they tried to run the clock down by passing the ball around in their own half and dunboyne squeezed them out over the sideline. Dunboyne got the last point from that sideline . Coldrick certainly missed some decisions but don't think either team could have blamed him if they lost or didn't win

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 869 - 27/08/2019 10:08:35    2229687

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Replying To head4dblackspot:  "Are ye having a laugh
Slide in where?
Are you seriously suggesting that Dunshaughlin will win the Keegan Cup
They are an average team at best"
We'll see. Give me an average team that plays with spirit any day. There's plenary of star-studded under performers and chokers around us. It seems to be that kind of year, so who knows?

aghref (Meath) - Posts: 148 - 27/08/2019 11:30:14    2229726

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Replying To aghref:  "We'll see. Give me an average team that plays with spirit any day. There's plenary of star-studded under performers and chokers around us. It seems to be that kind of year, so who knows?"
Dunshaughlin well organised and well coached and could beat any of the so called favourites on their day so I agree I certainly wouldn't be completely dismissing their chances

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 869 - 27/08/2019 12:05:48    2229740

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Replying To Blackspot09:  "Yes ur right I agree with u. That's my point he was fair and missed frees for both teams. I was disagreeing with you that he gave dunboyne basically everything in the 2nd half which wasn't the case . Missed several fouls on McCarthy in the 2nd half as he did on conlon. What cost cilles was they were 1 up In injury time and they tried to run the clock down by passing the ball around in their own half and dunboyne squeezed them out over the sideline. Dunboyne got the last point from that sideline . Coldrick certainly missed some decisions but don't think either team could have blamed him if they lost or didn't win"
Exactly, Cilles weren't able to kill the game off ultimately and Dunboynes pressure eventually told and salvaged the point, a well worked point too which showed a bit of experience. There were no issues with the ref. As for Conlon, he was going to ground way too easy even with his size and some were rightfully waved on. I can't imagine it was 7 minutes either, although if it was, Cilles had an injury in stoppage time (Ciaran Kelly I think with shoulder) which slowed it down a few minutes again, there were other stoppages too. If theres a Cilles fan suggesting the game was being let run just for Dunboyne to equalise they are living on cuckoo land.

As for Dunshaughlin, it is definitely arrogant to dismiss them completely as mentioned, especially if you're to talk up Kells as winners, as there is no logical reason to disregard one and fancy the other if you're to go off both teams games with NOM in the space of a week, its that type of championship. If Dunboyne go out, I'll be rooting for them.

Dunboyne certainly look up against it now given how Simonstown have shot back to serious championship form. The one thing you could argue is Dunboyne weren't exactly shooting the lights out going in to last years semi and look what happened there, but as has been said Dunboyne were at a higher level last year, and had the likes of Ronan Jones to come in and step up at vital times. In truth Simonstown ought to be favourites to progress here - the last few encounters the bookies had it 50/50 which is almost unheard of.

For Dunboyne it's a good game to have in a way, a big game which this always is may shake us in to gear and would give us real confidence going in to the knockouts again if we got over the line, although Simonstown will be thinking the same thing, albeit going in in better form.

I see Kells are now favourites, will be interesting to see how they cope with this tag as I always had them down as a team to relish being underdogs.

dunboynelad (Meath) - Posts: 227 - 27/08/2019 15:48:01    2229839

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Replying To dunboynelad:  "Exactly, Cilles weren't able to kill the game off ultimately and Dunboynes pressure eventually told and salvaged the point, a well worked point too which showed a bit of experience. There were no issues with the ref. As for Conlon, he was going to ground way too easy even with his size and some were rightfully waved on. I can't imagine it was 7 minutes either, although if it was, Cilles had an injury in stoppage time (Ciaran Kelly I think with shoulder) which slowed it down a few minutes again, there were other stoppages too. If theres a Cilles fan suggesting the game was being let run just for Dunboyne to equalise they are living on cuckoo land.

As for Dunshaughlin, it is definitely arrogant to dismiss them completely as mentioned, especially if you're to talk up Kells as winners, as there is no logical reason to disregard one and fancy the other if you're to go off both teams games with NOM in the space of a week, its that type of championship. If Dunboyne go out, I'll be rooting for them.

Dunboyne certainly look up against it now given how Simonstown have shot back to serious championship form. The one thing you could argue is Dunboyne weren't exactly shooting the lights out going in to last years semi and look what happened there, but as has been said Dunboyne were at a higher level last year, and had the likes of Ronan Jones to come in and step up at vital times. In truth Simonstown ought to be favourites to progress here - the last few encounters the bookies had it 50/50 which is almost unheard of.

For Dunboyne it's a good game to have in a way, a big game which this always is may shake us in to gear and would give us real confidence going in to the knockouts again if we got over the line, although Simonstown will be thinking the same thing, albeit going in in better form.

I see Kells are now favourites, will be interesting to see how they cope with this tag as I always had them down as a team to relish being underdogs."
the Simonstown Dunboyne game is certainly the most interesting game of the championship so far and should give an indication of where both teams are at!

It is really hard to make a call on where the Keegan will end up at this point - too many of the teams have been inconsistent. Curraha have probably given the best performances in the last 2 rounds and I thought they would struggle to stay up! I for one won't be parting with my money betting on this years championship!

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 473 - 27/08/2019 16:10:57    2229844

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Replying To dunboynelad:  "Exactly, Cilles weren't able to kill the game off ultimately and Dunboynes pressure eventually told and salvaged the point, a well worked point too which showed a bit of experience. There were no issues with the ref. As for Conlon, he was going to ground way too easy even with his size and some were rightfully waved on. I can't imagine it was 7 minutes either, although if it was, Cilles had an injury in stoppage time (Ciaran Kelly I think with shoulder) which slowed it down a few minutes again, there were other stoppages too. If theres a Cilles fan suggesting the game was being let run just for Dunboyne to equalise they are living on cuckoo land.

As for Dunshaughlin, it is definitely arrogant to dismiss them completely as mentioned, especially if you're to talk up Kells as winners, as there is no logical reason to disregard one and fancy the other if you're to go off both teams games with NOM in the space of a week, its that type of championship. If Dunboyne go out, I'll be rooting for them.

Dunboyne certainly look up against it now given how Simonstown have shot back to serious championship form. The one thing you could argue is Dunboyne weren't exactly shooting the lights out going in to last years semi and look what happened there, but as has been said Dunboyne were at a higher level last year, and had the likes of Ronan Jones to come in and step up at vital times. In truth Simonstown ought to be favourites to progress here - the last few encounters the bookies had it 50/50 which is almost unheard of.

For Dunboyne it's a good game to have in a way, a big game which this always is may shake us in to gear and would give us real confidence going in to the knockouts again if we got over the line, although Simonstown will be thinking the same thing, albeit going in in better form.

I see Kells are now favourites, will be interesting to see how they cope with this tag as I always had them down as a team to relish being underdogs."
Yes both teams could probably feel aggrieved they didn't get some frees at certain times in the 2nd half but I don't think either team were looked after by the ref. In relation to this nonsense of the ref playing till dunboyne equalised. Ridiculous comment . Dunboyne had the ball inside the cilles 45m line for 2 minutes trying to work the score and no ref is gonna blow for full team while a team is in possession so close to the opposition goal. If cilles had turned it over or dunboyne had hit a wide or kicked it over the sideline that was game over

Blackspot09 (Meath) - Posts: 869 - 27/08/2019 17:10:55    2229871

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Replying To dunboynelad:  "Exactly, Cilles weren't able to kill the game off ultimately and Dunboynes pressure eventually told and salvaged the point, a well worked point too which showed a bit of experience. There were no issues with the ref. As for Conlon, he was going to ground way too easy even with his size and some were rightfully waved on. I can't imagine it was 7 minutes either, although if it was, Cilles had an injury in stoppage time (Ciaran Kelly I think with shoulder) which slowed it down a few minutes again, there were other stoppages too. If theres a Cilles fan suggesting the game was being let run just for Dunboyne to equalise they are living on cuckoo land.

As for Dunshaughlin, it is definitely arrogant to dismiss them completely as mentioned, especially if you're to talk up Kells as winners, as there is no logical reason to disregard one and fancy the other if you're to go off both teams games with NOM in the space of a week, its that type of championship. If Dunboyne go out, I'll be rooting for them.

Dunboyne certainly look up against it now given how Simonstown have shot back to serious championship form. The one thing you could argue is Dunboyne weren't exactly shooting the lights out going in to last years semi and look what happened there, but as has been said Dunboyne were at a higher level last year, and had the likes of Ronan Jones to come in and step up at vital times. In truth Simonstown ought to be favourites to progress here - the last few encounters the bookies had it 50/50 which is almost unheard of.

For Dunboyne it's a good game to have in a way, a big game which this always is may shake us in to gear and would give us real confidence going in to the knockouts again if we got over the line, although Simonstown will be thinking the same thing, albeit going in in better form.

I see Kells are now favourites, will be interesting to see how they cope with this tag as I always had them down as a team to relish being underdogs."
Agree I think Kells can consider themselves favourites now if you factor League form etc. Summerhill are also going well too. But this Dunboyne v Simonstown game is going to tell us a lot about who is favourites and if this championship to date has been built on mediocrity.

Having seen Simonstown in Round 4, they have taken the levels to date played this year by all teams up quite a few notches. No team has played to that level in the 4 rounds to date and any of the opposition managers watching the performance V Na Fianna now know the bar has been raised quite a bit. If Simonstown can keep that level up or improve on it again, the candidates for Keegan will be small in number.

It remains to be seen can they keep this level of form but I have a sense Dunboyne are in trouble in this group because they are not playing well enough , its that simple. For me Dunboyne look like a team who could struggle in Round 5 especially if they keep the same level of form and meet Simonstown on the Na Fianna form or better.

Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 27/08/2019 23:36:32    2229982

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Replying To Talking_Sense:  "Agree I think Kells can consider themselves favourites now if you factor League form etc. Summerhill are also going well too. But this Dunboyne v Simonstown game is going to tell us a lot about who is favourites and if this championship to date has been built on mediocrity.

Having seen Simonstown in Round 4, they have taken the levels to date played this year by all teams up quite a few notches. No team has played to that level in the 4 rounds to date and any of the opposition managers watching the performance V Na Fianna now know the bar has been raised quite a bit. If Simonstown can keep that level up or improve on it again, the candidates for Keegan will be small in number.

It remains to be seen can they keep this level of form but I have a sense Dunboyne are in trouble in this group because they are not playing well enough , its that simple. For me Dunboyne look like a team who could struggle in Round 5 especially if they keep the same level of form and meet Simonstown on the Na Fianna form or better."
Not sure about Summerhill -saw the game with Ratoath - they were blessed to win it. Ratoath were the better side (in a terrible match!) and had a 2 point lead into injury time. Then a terrible mistake gifted the Hill a goal to let them back in! Even after that Ratoath had a chance to level things but missed a decent opportunity! And nobody on here gives Ratoath a chance!
At the weekend Summerhill demolished a Rathkenny team who are struggling at this level! At that, they were actually behind mid way through the first half. The first Summerhill goal saw a collapse by Rathkenny
Ashbourne beat Summerhill earlier and ran up a huge tally against Longwood at the weekend. I think they are slightly ahead of Summerhill and with Menton in the middle and the two McGoverns going well I think they are a better bet! But with all teams being inconsistent it is hard to call!!

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 473 - 28/08/2019 10:35:37    2230035

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A very open championship although it must be said the margin of victory in some of the games last weekend highlights that change can't come quick enough, Kells look the most impressive thus far and they have been competing in the latter stages the past few years, perhaps their time has come. Curraha have been the breath of fresh air, unlucky not to pick up points in their first two games they have roared back to dismantle Simonstown and Tones, no mean feat, and if the quality for a quarter final they will give any team their fill of it. Ratoath are contenders and should really have maximum points in their group but bounced back quite well against Moynalvey, Ratoath are young but talented and have a few more experienced heads reappearing which will help. Don/Ash and Summerhill will be knocking about and are both capable teams. Skryne have gone to pot and that was an embarrassment for them last weekend. Poor Longwood look goosed and I think St Pats snd Rathkenny May join them in intermediate next year.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 28/08/2019 11:22:56    2230055

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The club championship is already excellent but it's going to be something else after it's reduced to 16. Box office stuff!

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 28/08/2019 11:58:31    2230065

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Replying To Richieq:  "A very open championship although it must be said the margin of victory in some of the games last weekend highlights that change can't come quick enough, Kells look the most impressive thus far and they have been competing in the latter stages the past few years, perhaps their time has come. Curraha have been the breath of fresh air, unlucky not to pick up points in their first two games they have roared back to dismantle Simonstown and Tones, no mean feat, and if the quality for a quarter final they will give any team their fill of it. Ratoath are contenders and should really have maximum points in their group but bounced back quite well against Moynalvey, Ratoath are young but talented and have a few more experienced heads reappearing which will help. Don/Ash and Summerhill will be knocking about and are both capable teams. Skryne have gone to pot and that was an embarrassment for them last weekend. Poor Longwood look goosed and I think St Pats snd Rathkenny May join them in intermediate next year."
Not sure a 4 point win against Simonstown counts as a dismantling, but they were mighty impressive against the Tones, have 6 or 7 top class players including an excellent keeper (maybe he should be bringing the kit bag is instead of the physio one for Meath next year!!) Simonstown took them for granted and looked ill prepared for what was coming. The Ha seem very well drilled and get the most out of their key men so fair dues. Simonstown responded very well to the defeat the last day while I was in PT and didn't see it by all accounts the team was much better balanced against NaFianna. No doubt they will relish the chance to knock Dunboyne out after what happened last year! Given the number of times they have faced eachother over the past few years there is certainly no love lost... Maybe this is the game that Dunboyne need to wake them from their slumber.... they have failed to fire and by reports were quite fortunate to get anything against the Cilles.

Kells are flying and put the disappointment of the O'Mahonys behind them to blitz Skryne in the second half. Skryne looked to have downed tools though so its heard to know.

Looking forward to last round, a lot still to be decided which will lead to some cracking knockout games. Kells leading the pack at the minute, but its wide open. I don't think Kells will win it.... they have choked at the business end the last few years!

longroadback (Meath) - Posts: 324 - 28/08/2019 12:36:12    2230090

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Replying To Jack_Goff:  "The club championship is already excellent but it's going to be something else after it's reduced to 16. Box office stuff!"
How can you claim that the club championship is already excellent? I presume that you are referring to the Senior Championship. With the one sided nature of 6 games (22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 12 point hammering dished out with 6, 5 points losing margins & one Draw in three games) it cannot be claimed to be an excellent championship by any stretch of the imagination. In fact I think that it is a dire Championship and as for a 16 team championship, it won't be much better. Why? Because at least 3 of the teams on the receiving end of between 22 and 12 point beatings will still be Senior next year, an absolute joke. So let's hope that a decent Intermediate team is promoted which may result in one less annihilation next year. Better reduce it to 12 stand alone teams NOW - 2021, with the possibility of 4 or 6 Divisional teams but the 6 that were on the receiving end last weekend simply have no future in Senior Football. Injuries or no injuries. Just bite the bullet and get rid.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1061 - 28/08/2019 23:05:41    2230301

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Replying To MillerX:  "How can you claim that the club championship is already excellent? I presume that you are referring to the Senior Championship. With the one sided nature of 6 games (22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 12 point hammering dished out with 6, 5 points losing margins & one Draw in three games) it cannot be claimed to be an excellent championship by any stretch of the imagination. In fact I think that it is a dire Championship and as for a 16 team championship, it won't be much better. Why? Because at least 3 of the teams on the receiving end of between 22 and 12 point beatings will still be Senior next year, an absolute joke. So let's hope that a decent Intermediate team is promoted which may result in one less annihilation next year. Better reduce it to 12 stand alone teams NOW - 2021, with the possibility of 4 or 6 Divisional teams but the 6 that were on the receiving end last weekend simply have no future in Senior Football. Injuries or no injuries. Just bite the bullet and get rid. "
I'm going to go out on a limb and say he was being sarcastic!! At 16 teams it will make for a much more competitive championship, only 3 games to get yourself to a quarter final or end up in a relegation scrap!! Obviously if a top team plays one of the bottom ones then a hiding is always going to be on the cards but thats the same in any championship around the country!! Realistically this year Ashbourne, Summerhill, Ratoath, Simonstown, Dunboyne, Kells are all on a level par in terms of talent and performance. But the likes of Curraha, Dunshaughlin and Senchalstown are now showing that on their day they are well able to compete. Add in Na Fianna, Wolfe Tones, Skryne and O Mahoneys are all capable as well, this year not being great for some of them but someone has to lose in fairness. While the quality is sometimes lacking, you can't argue that it is a highly competitive championship come the business end of things and next yea will further enhance that.

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 29/08/2019 09:40:02    2230339

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Replying To ratlag:  "
Replying To MillerX:  "How can you claim that the club championship is already excellent? I presume that you are referring to the Senior Championship. With the one sided nature of 6 games (22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 12 point hammering dished out with 6, 5 points losing margins & one Draw in three games) it cannot be claimed to be an excellent championship by any stretch of the imagination. In fact I think that it is a dire Championship and as for a 16 team championship, it won't be much better. Why? Because at least 3 of the teams on the receiving end of between 22 and 12 point beatings will still be Senior next year, an absolute joke. So let's hope that a decent Intermediate team is promoted which may result in one less annihilation next year. Better reduce it to 12 stand alone teams NOW - 2021, with the possibility of 4 or 6 Divisional teams but the 6 that were on the receiving end last weekend simply have no future in Senior Football. Injuries or no injuries. Just bite the bullet and get rid. "
I'm going to go out on a limb and say he was being sarcastic!! At 16 teams it will make for a much more competitive championship, only 3 games to get yourself to a quarter final or end up in a relegation scrap!! Obviously if a top team plays one of the bottom ones then a hiding is always going to be on the cards but thats the same in any championship around the country!! Realistically this year Ashbourne, Summerhill, Ratoath, Simonstown, Dunboyne, Kells are all on a level par in terms of talent and performance. But the likes of Curraha, Dunshaughlin and Senchalstown are now showing that on their day they are well able to compete. Add in Na Fianna, Wolfe Tones, Skryne and O Mahoneys are all capable as well, this year not being great for some of them but someone has to lose in fairness. While the quality is sometimes lacking, you can't argue that it is a highly competitive championship come the business end of things and next yea will further enhance that."
With a 16 team championship next year we will still have some of the lame ducks that took an absolute hammering last weekend. In the long run people will vote with their feet if 20 point margins are even possible. And I don't believe that it is commonplace throughout the country that 6 senior clubs would loose championship matches by between 12 and 22 points or an average of more than 18 points over the same weekend. I do earnestly hope that the 4 team groups are more competitive but as I see it a lot of weak teams will still be in the Senior Championship when they are not simply up to it. To say that someone had to loose is true and in any competition all except one eventually loose but there is loosing and there is demolition, last weekend we had demolition on a grand scale. To me anything in excess of 7 points (at least three scores) is a good beating.

MillerX (Meath) - Posts: 1061 - 29/08/2019 11:15:44    2230376

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Replying To ratlag:  "
Replying To MillerX:  "How can you claim that the club championship is already excellent? I presume that you are referring to the Senior Championship. With the one sided nature of 6 games (22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 12 point hammering dished out with 6, 5 points losing margins & one Draw in three games) it cannot be claimed to be an excellent championship by any stretch of the imagination. In fact I think that it is a dire Championship and as for a 16 team championship, it won't be much better. Why? Because at least 3 of the teams on the receiving end of between 22 and 12 point beatings will still be Senior next year, an absolute joke. So let's hope that a decent Intermediate team is promoted which may result in one less annihilation next year. Better reduce it to 12 stand alone teams NOW - 2021, with the possibility of 4 or 6 Divisional teams but the 6 that were on the receiving end last weekend simply have no future in Senior Football. Injuries or no injuries. Just bite the bullet and get rid. "
I'm going to go out on a limb and say he was being sarcastic!! At 16 teams it will make for a much more competitive championship, only 3 games to get yourself to a quarter final or end up in a relegation scrap!! Obviously if a top team plays one of the bottom ones then a hiding is always going to be on the cards but thats the same in any championship around the country!! Realistically this year Ashbourne, Summerhill, Ratoath, Simonstown, Dunboyne, Kells are all on a level par in terms of talent and performance. But the likes of Curraha, Dunshaughlin and Senchalstown are now showing that on their day they are well able to compete. Add in Na Fianna, Wolfe Tones, Skryne and O Mahoneys are all capable as well, this year not being great for some of them but someone has to lose in fairness. While the quality is sometimes lacking, you can't argue that it is a highly competitive championship come the business end of things and next yea will further enhance that."
How can you honestly put ratoath in with that 1st group of teams? Laughable

Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 237 - 29/08/2019 16:33:49    2230475

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Replying To MillerX:  "
Replying To ratlag:  "[quote=MillerX:  "How can you claim that the club championship is already excellent? I presume that you are referring to the Senior Championship. With the one sided nature of 6 games (22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 12 point hammering dished out with 6, 5 points losing margins & one Draw in three games) it cannot be claimed to be an excellent championship by any stretch of the imagination. In fact I think that it is a dire Championship and as for a 16 team championship, it won't be much better. Why? Because at least 3 of the teams on the receiving end of between 22 and 12 point beatings will still be Senior next year, an absolute joke. So let's hope that a decent Intermediate team is promoted which may result in one less annihilation next year. Better reduce it to 12 stand alone teams NOW - 2021, with the possibility of 4 or 6 Divisional teams but the 6 that were on the receiving end last weekend simply have no future in Senior Football. Injuries or no injuries. Just bite the bullet and get rid. "
I'm going to go out on a limb and say he was being sarcastic!! At 16 teams it will make for a much more competitive championship, only 3 games to get yourself to a quarter final or end up in a relegation scrap!! Obviously if a top team plays one of the bottom ones then a hiding is always going to be on the cards but thats the same in any championship around the country!! Realistically this year Ashbourne, Summerhill, Ratoath, Simonstown, Dunboyne, Kells are all on a level par in terms of talent and performance. But the likes of Curraha, Dunshaughlin and Senchalstown are now showing that on their day they are well able to compete. Add in Na Fianna, Wolfe Tones, Skryne and O Mahoneys are all capable as well, this year not being great for some of them but someone has to lose in fairness. While the quality is sometimes lacking, you can't argue that it is a highly competitive championship come the business end of things and next yea will further enhance that."
With a 16 team championship next year we will still have some of the lame ducks that took an absolute hammering last weekend. In the long run people will vote with their feet if 20 point margins are even possible. And I don't believe that it is commonplace throughout the country that 6 senior clubs would loose championship matches by between 12 and 22 points or an average of more than 18 points over the same weekend. I do earnestly hope that the 4 team groups are more competitive but as I see it a lot of weak teams will still be in the Senior Championship when they are not simply up to it. To say that someone had to loose is true and in any competition all except one eventually loose but there is loosing and there is demolition, last weekend we had demolition on a grand scale. To me anything in excess of 7 points (at least three scores) is a good beating."]How can you try to put a negative spin on things there is so much to play for going into the last group game and once that is out of the way every team will fancy their chances going into the last 8. Longwood, rathkenny and Pat's all got hammerings but they are all going down while the tones curraha game was a freak result there was nothing in that game. Whilst na fianna were hammered by simontown they were missing some players and met an extremely hungry simonstown team on the day, remember a lot of people on here tipped na fianna for that game. Also you could focus on how cilles are going for a relegation play off yet ran the last two champions to a point and got a draw. In an 18 team championship there is clearly going to be a big difference between the top sides and the bottom ones but I think we are lucky in meath we have 1 of the most open championships in the country

Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 237 - 29/08/2019 16:53:59    2230480

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Replying To Northsidegaels:  "
Replying To ratlag:  "[quote=MillerX:  "How can you claim that the club championship is already excellent? I presume that you are referring to the Senior Championship. With the one sided nature of 6 games (22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 12 point hammering dished out with 6, 5 points losing margins & one Draw in three games) it cannot be claimed to be an excellent championship by any stretch of the imagination. In fact I think that it is a dire Championship and as for a 16 team championship, it won't be much better. Why? Because at least 3 of the teams on the receiving end of between 22 and 12 point beatings will still be Senior next year, an absolute joke. So let's hope that a decent Intermediate team is promoted which may result in one less annihilation next year. Better reduce it to 12 stand alone teams NOW - 2021, with the possibility of 4 or 6 Divisional teams but the 6 that were on the receiving end last weekend simply have no future in Senior Football. Injuries or no injuries. Just bite the bullet and get rid. "
I'm going to go out on a limb and say he was being sarcastic!! At 16 teams it will make for a much more competitive championship, only 3 games to get yourself to a quarter final or end up in a relegation scrap!! Obviously if a top team plays one of the bottom ones then a hiding is always going to be on the cards but thats the same in any championship around the country!! Realistically this year Ashbourne, Summerhill, Ratoath, Simonstown, Dunboyne, Kells are all on a level par in terms of talent and performance. But the likes of Curraha, Dunshaughlin and Senchalstown are now showing that on their day they are well able to compete. Add in Na Fianna, Wolfe Tones, Skryne and O Mahoneys are all capable as well, this year not being great for some of them but someone has to lose in fairness. While the quality is sometimes lacking, you can't argue that it is a highly competitive championship come the business end of things and next yea will further enhance that."
How can you honestly put ratoath in with that 1st group of teams? Laughable"]Well its quite simple really, they bet Ashbourne and outplayed Summerhill for 59mins only for 1 wayward handpass coughing up a goal which put Summerhill ahead by 1. They have the joint best defence in the championship going off league tables, and the 3rd best attack.......and i don't hammer a team just because I don't like who they are or where they are from. Anyone with an pounce of football in them can say that on there day Ratoath would beat any team in the county, along with the other 5 teams mentioned this year. Care to explain how they aren't in the top 6?

ratlag (Meath) - Posts: 557 - 29/08/2019 17:21:00    2230489

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Replying To Northsidegaels:  "[quote=ratlag:  "[quote=MillerX:  "How can you claim that the club championship is already excellent? I presume that you are referring to the Senior Championship. With the one sided nature of 6 games (22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 12 point hammering dished out with 6, 5 points losing margins & one Draw in three games) it cannot be claimed to be an excellent championship by any stretch of the imagination. In fact I think that it is a dire Championship and as for a 16 team championship, it won't be much better. Why? Because at least 3 of the teams on the receiving end of between 22 and 12 point beatings will still be Senior next year, an absolute joke. So let's hope that a decent Intermediate team is promoted which may result in one less annihilation next year. Better reduce it to 12 stand alone teams NOW - 2021, with the possibility of 4 or 6 Divisional teams but the 6 that were on the receiving end last weekend simply have no future in Senior Football. Injuries or no injuries. Just bite the bullet and get rid. "
I'm going to go out on a limb and say he was being sarcastic!! At 16 teams it will make for a much more competitive championship, only 3 games to get yourself to a quarter final or end up in a relegation scrap!! Obviously if a top team plays one of the bottom ones then a hiding is always going to be on the cards but thats the same in any championship around the country!! Realistically this year Ashbourne, Summerhill, Ratoath, Simonstown, Dunboyne, Kells are all on a level par in terms of talent and performance. But the likes of Curraha, Dunshaughlin and Senchalstown are now showing that on their day they are well able to compete. Add in Na Fianna, Wolfe Tones, Skryne and O Mahoneys are all capable as well, this year not being great for some of them but someone has to lose in fairness. While the quality is sometimes lacking, you can't argue that it is a highly competitive championship come the business end of things and next yea will further enhance that."
How can you honestly put ratoath in with that 1st group of teams? Laughable"]Well its quite simple really, they bet Ashbourne and outplayed Summerhill for 59mins only for 1 wayward handpass coughing up a goal which put Summerhill ahead by 1. They have the joint best defence in the championship going off league tables, and the 3rd best attack.......and i don't hammer a team just because I don't like who they are or where they are from. Anyone with an pounce of football in them can say that on there day Ratoath would beat any team in the county, along with the other 5 teams mentioned this year. Care to explain how they aren't in the top 6?"]Well seen as they have never got by the last 8 I struggle to see how they are automatically included in the top 6 and on a par with the likes of summerhill dunboyne and simonstown. Maybe ratoath will get it together and win a keegan but they wouldn't be my favourites to do so and until they do win it then cannot be compared to be on a par with the teams that have won it in my opinion!

Northsidegaels (Meath) - Posts: 237 - 29/08/2019 18:20:27    2230504

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Replying To ratlag:  "[quote=Northsidegaels:  "[quote=ratlag:  "[quote=MillerX:  "How can you claim that the club championship is already excellent? I presume that you are referring to the Senior Championship. With the one sided nature of 6 games (22, 21, 20, 19, 18, 12 point hammering dished out with 6, 5 points losing margins & one Draw in three games) it cannot be claimed to be an excellent championship by any stretch of the imagination. In fact I think that it is a dire Championship and as for a 16 team championship, it won't be much better. Why? Because at least 3 of the teams on the receiving end of between 22 and 12 point beatings will still be Senior next year, an absolute joke. So let's hope that a decent Intermediate team is promoted which may result in one less annihilation next year. Better reduce it to 12 stand alone teams NOW - 2021, with the possibility of 4 or 6 Divisional teams but the 6 that were on the receiving end last weekend simply have no future in Senior Football. Injuries or no injuries. Just bite the bullet and get rid. "
I'm going to go out on a limb and say he was being sarcastic!! At 16 teams it will make for a much more competitive championship, only 3 games to get yourself to a quarter final or end up in a relegation scrap!! Obviously if a top team plays one of the bottom ones then a hiding is always going to be on the cards but thats the same in any championship around the country!! Realistically this year Ashbourne, Summerhill, Ratoath, Simonstown, Dunboyne, Kells are all on a level par in terms of talent and performance. But the likes of Curraha, Dunshaughlin and Senchalstown are now showing that on their day they are well able to compete. Add in Na Fianna, Wolfe Tones, Skryne and O Mahoneys are all capable as well, this year not being great for some of them but someone has to lose in fairness. While the quality is sometimes lacking, you can't argue that it is a highly competitive championship come the business end of things and next yea will further enhance that."
How can you honestly put ratoath in with that 1st group of teams? Laughable"]Well its quite simple really, they bet Ashbourne and outplayed Summerhill for 59mins only for 1 wayward handpass coughing up a goal which put Summerhill ahead by 1. They have the joint best defence in the championship going off league tables, and the 3rd best attack.......and i don't hammer a team just because I don't like who they are or where they are from. Anyone with an pounce of football in them can say that on there day Ratoath would beat any team in the county, along with the other 5 teams mentioned this year. Care to explain how they aren't in the top 6?"]Well seen as they have never got by the last 8 I struggle to see how they are automatically included in the top 6 and on a par with the likes of summerhill dunboyne and simonstown. Maybe ratoath will get it together and win a keegan but they wouldn't be my favourites to do so and until they do win it then cannot be compared to be on a par with the teams that have won it in my opinion!"]Ratoath don't have the players , the team or the tradition to win the Meath Championship. Come the business. End and they will playing in a big blanket with their fastest and best players deep in their own half completely bereft of ideas how to beat the big teams and no confidence in themselves to believe they can win. Seen it last year and the year before and they are not going to change this year either. Seen them in earlier rounds, loads of lads behind the ball. Desperate side to watch at times .

Talking_Sense (Meath) - Posts: 209 - 29/08/2019 19:01:54    2230515

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Navan O'MahonysVSt Patrick's - Navan O'Mahony to win handily
SkryneVDunshaughlin GAA - Could be a cracking game if Skryne show up! Still think Dunshaughlin will win it
Seneschalstown GFCV Gaeil Colmcille - Another that could be a cracker with two contrasting styles. I think the Kells men will edge this one.

RathkennyV Ratoath - Ratoath to come out on top
LongwoodV Summerhill - I expect a big win for The Hill in this one!
MoynalveyV Donaghmore/Ashbourne - While Moynalvey are still in with a shout, I think they will make a game of this - but I suspect Don/Ash will have a little too much in the end!

Curraha VSt. Colmcille's - This also could be a cracker. Cille's are not a bad team but have had bad results. The Ha have performed better than most expected. Cille's are facing a crucial relegation game so I suspect their eye will be on that. I think The Ha will win this one
Na Fianna CLG V Bhulf Tón Clg - Not sure what is going on with Tones - they are usually more consistent. Na Fianna have some good up and coming players. I think Na Fianna will edge it.
St Peter's, Dunboyne V Simonstown - This is the biggest game of the lot with the Champions facing down the barrel! S'Town are in good form but I am sure Dunboyne won't go down easily! I think this could be a draw!!

Royalblufill (Meath) - Posts: 473 - 04/09/2019 15:33:24    2232781

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