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Colgan has to be replaced and it's as simple as that, making the team look a lot worse due to his mistakes, was the cause today for 2-2 from poor kick outs and then that incident at the end

Meath4Sam2020 (Meath) - Posts: 118 - 21/07/2019 15:44:03    2213992

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Good performance from all but our keeper he really isn't up to county standard hopefully for Kerry game he'll be dropped has cost us 2-2 today and 1-3 last week we won't win any games in div 1 next year giving away that much from our own kickouts. Very frustrating when we played so well at the back today. But there's a decent team there replace coglan we could do very well next year

username.if (Meath) - Posts: 66 - 21/07/2019 15:53:43    2214005

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Replying To username.if:  "Good performance from all but our keeper he really isn't up to county standard hopefully for Kerry game he'll be dropped has cost us 2-2 today and 1-3 last week we won't win any games in div 1 next year giving away that much from our own kickouts. Very frustrating when we played so well at the back today. But there's a decent team there replace coglan we could do very well next year"
Who do you put in his place? I'd be more concerned at our lack of capable forwards. We are short a decent ball winner in midfield also.

ClonardGael (Meath) - Posts: 75 - 21/07/2019 16:14:17    2214023

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Carlow,Offally Loais ,Clare. Dont need to say anymore

Jackpot (Meath) - Posts: 199 - 21/07/2019 16:19:03    2214025

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Replying To LoyalRoyal:  "Am I right that Graham Reilly isn't even on the bench? Saw a line up online without him included."
Ssh lads we are not allowed blame the goalie on here

BoynesideBlue (Meath) - Posts: 130 - 21/07/2019 16:19:12    2214026

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Replying To Meath4Sam2020:  "Colgan has to be replaced and it's as simple as that, making the team look a lot worse due to his mistakes, was the cause today for 2-2 from poor kick outs and then that incident at the end"
The problem is teams are all too aware of our vulnerability from short kick outs. This then places huge pressure on our keeper and kicking out the ball becomes a game of Russian roulette. Perhaps it's a psychological problem in the side. They are cognisant of this vulnerability themselves and know it's coming at some stage towards the end of each game.

ClonardGael (Meath) - Posts: 75 - 21/07/2019 16:20:37    2214028

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Replying To Meathmaster:  "Where do people get this stuff from? Simply not true."
You still think I was lying about Newman getting injured during the week?? He never looked right from the off today

redser123 (Meath) - Posts: 298 - 21/07/2019 16:40:30    2214044

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Replying To ClonardGael:  "Who do you put in his place? I'd be more concerned at our lack of capable forwards. We are short a decent ball winner in midfield also."
If he's the best we have we haven't a chance next year in div 1. Unfortunately is it of mcentees making that better keepers aren't prepared to play. Colgan isn't even the best keeper in ashbourne. Robbie burlingham is no worse. It's not coglans fault he's trying his best just frustrating watching him make simple mistakes that cost us.

username.if (Meath) - Posts: 66 - 21/07/2019 17:01:40    2214058

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Replying To redser123:  "You still think I was lying about Newman getting injured during the week?? He never looked right from the off today"
Well done u. We just got beat by 9 points again and but were right about Newman being injured and that's the most important thing!!

Aloblack (Meath) - Posts: 265 - 21/07/2019 17:17:49    2214072

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Poor showing again late in the second half. Clear as day what we need to work on fitness wise. Based on today and the last day Conlon needs to go back on the bench and Shane Walsh to start. Badly need about 4 or 5 quality players to shore up that team. Goalkeeper below the required level. Well done Mayo but that was hard work. Cillian O'Sullivan needs to take the blinkers off. Had options and ignored them too often.

LoyalRoyal (None) - Posts: 414 - 21/07/2019 17:23:51    2214077

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Replying To ClonardGael:  "The problem is teams are all too aware of our vulnerability from short kick outs. This then places huge pressure on our keeper and kicking out the ball becomes a game of Russian roulette. Perhaps it's a psychological problem in the side. They are cognisant of this vulnerability themselves and know it's coming at some stage towards the end of each game."
Yeah I agree every county is aware that if you go full press on Meath's kick outs it will be rewarded, I was surprised that mayo didn't press fully in the first half but when they did it resulted in them gaining primary possession, I don't blame Colgan but he doesn't have the skill set needed to be a top intercounty keeper, if we have a keeper who is comfortable and confident to play both short and long kick outs I feel that there would be a lot more movement out the field but I feel that the players themselves know he won't be able to land a kick out just in front of them when there on the run

Meath4Sam2020 (Meath) - Posts: 118 - 21/07/2019 17:51:58    2214099

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Another spirited showing, no doubt. With the right kick-out strategy and actual midfielders to contest and a few forwards we could have won. Well done Mayo, but there are limitations to them also and you'd have to think their celebrations at the end at beating this Meath team shows where they are. Still though, massive respect for this Mayo team and their inability and refusal to go away.

I would think that this could well be the last time we see Colgan in a Meath jersey. I for one, believe the horse bolted today. Walsh up front was our go-to man for much of the 2nd half and he's just finished his Leaving Cert. He kicked a few fine frees and was making things happen on the ball but his inexperience also shone through. Enough has been said about Conlon at this stage also to affect change in how he is played. Our backs pushing up the field was our greatest weapon and their directness and pace is to be admired. It was a classic case of an experienced and well-rounded panel of players beating an inexperienced panel. They had more firepower coming in off the bench and it told. We stayed with them until the 55th minute or so and then, like clockwork, it started going downhill. We will improve, no doubt, and realistically there wasn't 9 points between the teams. I agree with previous posters, there is the skeleton of a good team there, a genuinely competitive team, but Mc Entee may have to swallow his pride and go looking for players who are needed to bring us on another level again. This team as it stands are at their best in my opinion.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 306 - 21/07/2019 17:52:53    2214101

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Replying To Young_gael:  "Another spirited showing, no doubt. With the right kick-out strategy and actual midfielders to contest and a few forwards we could have won. Well done Mayo, but there are limitations to them also and you'd have to think their celebrations at the end at beating this Meath team shows where they are. Still though, massive respect for this Mayo team and their inability and refusal to go away.

I would think that this could well be the last time we see Colgan in a Meath jersey. I for one, believe the horse bolted today. Walsh up front was our go-to man for much of the 2nd half and he's just finished his Leaving Cert. He kicked a few fine frees and was making things happen on the ball but his inexperience also shone through. Enough has been said about Conlon at this stage also to affect change in how he is played. Our backs pushing up the field was our greatest weapon and their directness and pace is to be admired. It was a classic case of an experienced and well-rounded panel of players beating an inexperienced panel. They had more firepower coming in off the bench and it told. We stayed with them until the 55th minute or so and then, like clockwork, it started going downhill. We will improve, no doubt, and realistically there wasn't 9 points between the teams. I agree with previous posters, there is the skeleton of a good team there, a genuinely competitive team, but Mc Entee may have to swallow his pride and go looking for players who are needed to bring us on another level again. This team as it stands are at their best in my opinion."
Who are these players that McEntee needs to swallow his pride for ?

LeitrimRoyal99 (Meath) - Posts: 778 - 21/07/2019 18:06:01    2214115

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Who are these players that McEntee needs to swallow his pride for ?"
Off the top of my head

Paddy o Rourke (if panel accept)
Padraig McKeever
Ruari o'c

And hope Lenihan is back for the year

Speculatively Ronan Jones or conor Nash would be what the doctor ordered

We aren't looking for 10/12 players just 2-4 who can push us on. Most important is goalie.

Thejoeshow (Meath) - Posts: 458 - 21/07/2019 18:31:14    2214141

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Who are these players that McEntee needs to swallow his pride for ?"
I think he means he has to admit that this current squad has gone as far as it can and bring fresh blood in.
Something the poster seems to think he's reluctant to do.

BoynesideBlue (Meath) - Posts: 130 - 21/07/2019 18:40:20    2214151

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Replying To LoyalRoyal:  "Poor showing again late in the second half. Clear as day what we need to work on fitness wise. Based on today and the last day Conlon needs to go back on the bench and Shane Walsh to start. Badly need about 4 or 5 quality players to shore up that team. Goalkeeper below the required level. Well done Mayo but that was hard work. Cillian O'Sullivan needs to take the blinkers off. Had options and ignored them too often."
Yes indeed it just proves we are on a learning curve . Definite progress this year for players and management.. I think it is fairly obvious what the key learning points are................ I would say
1 We lost to day because of lack of experience from our youngest players.in particular
2. We had to play players we know are not at the required standard because we have little options.
3. Players who could not commit for 2019 need to be called in for a chat to find out how they stand going forward.
I suggest players like Paddy o Rourke. Ronan Jones. Harry Rooney and 1 or 2 others be included here
Players have every right to take time out for various reasons because they are not professionals.
Management will no doubt have learned ,and may wish to change areas of approach if appropriate.
Well done to all concerned for their efforts in delivering progress this year. Hopefully we can find those players for next
year in order to progress further........A lot done...more to do !!

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 833 - 21/07/2019 18:42:31    2214154

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Replying To LeitrimRoyal99:  "Who are these players that McEntee needs to swallow his pride for ?"
I don't have all the answers, and ill not pretend to be an expert; I don't attend as many club games as many others mostly due to work, and I wont name names because its none of my business, but Id have to think that in a county with dozens of clubs urban and rural alike, that there are men with the varied individual attributes required to bring the team on another step. What is on show at the moment, with the utmost of respect is of an upper mediocre standard. Ive made many posts where I was very complimentary of this team and I remain fond of them, pure work-rate has them where they are and this has been a red letter season. I believe this team's achievement will be appreciated in time. Im proud to have followed them this season and will continue to follow them in the future. However I also believe that in order to consolidate the position we find ourselves in for 2020, we will need a new goalkeeper, one (maybe 2) midfielders, and two or three new forwards. Just my own opinion. The lads who are there cant be faulted for work, and passion, and effort, and they all deserve our respect, but they're peaking at this level.

Young_gael (Meath) - Posts: 306 - 21/07/2019 18:44:21    2214155

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Another spirited performance that will stand to the guy in division 1 next year. A good forward able to take frees would be just the tonic.

Saw the players afterwards and to a man they were devastated, so proud of each of them.

Have you saw I'm livid with some of the referees decisions, how there weren't 2 black cards when we were on top and bursting through, the 1st might of even been borderline red.

All we want is a fair roll of the dice.

RoyalSteel (Meath) - Posts: 13 - 21/07/2019 18:53:18    2214168

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Replying To RoyalSteel:  "Really looking forward to Sunday and will be there with the family again supporting our lads.

Kerry beating Mayo last weekend wasn't good for us as Mayo always lift it when written off. On the flip side we have nothing to lose, again no analysis on us and if you listen to any "expert" outside Meath; we may as well not turn up.

Andy and the lads should us this as motivation and be the thorn in Mayo's side yet again. If we get a result it leaves us in a great position for Kerry in Navan, as the narrative would be all about Mayo's decline and again would be no credit for us.

Anyway no point worrying past Sunday, let's do the business and let the country stand up and take notice of us.

Hugely proud of this team and really feel we are not far off the top level. Let's get behind the Royals as we'll need every man, woman and child roaring us on on Sunday because Mayo will bring a big crowd.

Bonus territory continues and these games will really stand to us next year regardless of what happens. Hope springs eternal and I believe we can get a result this weekend. Was there in 96 and again in 09 when Queeny came off the bench to bury them.

C'mon the Royals............we can do this lads!!"
At 55 mins again we were right in this game. I think Meath supporters who have been at most matches this year agree that we are talking about the same issues game after game. While the year has been extremely positive overall, extremely disappointed management have not at least try to address the goalkeeper issue. I genuinely feel sorry a number of players having to play with such a liability. Management must take a huge amount of blame for this. Staying on a watching Kerry v Donegal, I can see so much more potential from time with a proper keeper. Again McGill, Lavin and Menton were excellent. Keogan was great at times but looked really tired. O'Sullivan tried hard but otherwise did not really perform. I believe Walsh could be a super player. Devine did fairly well also. I was very disappointed with McMahon after showing well last day while Conlon struggled. S McEntee not a county midfielder while James lacks creativity to be a forward. Need to improve our panel hugely as still alot of players not up to standard. Super 8's has a least shown where we need improvements and the players who are up to the level.

winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 195 - 21/07/2019 18:59:33    2214178

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Thought we put up a reasonable fight today. but we just don't have the quality at present . Most county teams will stay with each other for 50 to 55 mins and then quality and depth take over every time . Much will be made of the goalkeeper ,but in fairness he played well enough today . Conlon too easy to knock around ,and we probably don't have any real quality forwards who can lead and win the big games . Navan game will be just a training exercise ,and expect to see Graham and a few others make their swan song .( Entry fee should now be a fiver and try to fill it ....will be worth see Clifford if nothing else ! ). In fairness they gave good service . Don't know what Micky Newman ,but our goose was cooked after his departure . I see a lot of club football ,and this is as good as it gets personell wise . Would rather we hung around Div 2 for a while longer as I suspect a few hammering coming up but I suppose it is the league and of no real importance . As they say in Disneyland. That's all for now folks !

P.s ...We should try to make it to the Kerry match ,as I know it's a dead rubber. but some fantastic talented.
young footballers on show .

noluso (Meath) - Posts: 151 - 21/07/2019 19:04:37    2214183

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