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Replying To royal69er:  "*Their"
It's actually "They're" and not there or their

Analyst (Meath) - Posts: 1467 - 20/02/2018 19:16:11    2078826

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Replying To offtheditch:  "Looks like rearranging the Deck Chairs on the Titanic."
Look on Sunday Cavan were better than us, mostly cause we failed in everything nearly we tried. Cavan are no world beaters we made you look good, you see we know we can play better , but can Cavan???

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/02/2018 20:16:34    2078849

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Replying To oldsam_newsam:  "It will be very interesting to see if Andy continues to pick Shane on the half back line. Contrast the ongoing opportunities he has had with Alan Douglas who played well when he was started in the O'Byrne cup but then not played since.

McEntee was poor last weekend and against Roscommon but played pretty well against a very poor Clare side which probably justified his selection (in Andy's mind) for the Cavan game.

Very hard to pick a team though without including players that struggled against cavan but here goes:

1.Andrew Colgan.

2.Seamas Lavin
3.Conor McGill
4.Dan O'Neill

5.Brian Power
6.Donal Keoghan
7.Brian Conlan

8.Bryan Menton
9. Harry Rooney

10. Eamon Wallace
11. Padraig McKeever
12. Cillian O'Sullivan

13. Graham Reilly
14. Donal Lenihan
15. Joey Wallace

There is a fair bit of speed and movement in that forward line. I would also be thinking in terms of a two man inside line with Reilly coming out to half forward."
Shane hadn't a bad game v Cavan and to say otherwise is wrong, he was as good as most on Sunday

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/02/2018 20:21:09    2078851

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Replying To TakeYourPoints6:  "Not Shane McEntees biggest fan but I thought he was one of our better performers against Cavan. In fairness to him he is always an option for the ball and works very hard. He is always going to be fighting a losing battle, he has to play out of his skin every game in order to justify his selection. Remember he was U21 captain under Sean Barry and was involved under Micko so its not as if Andy has introduced him out of nowhere"
Well said

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/02/2018 20:25:02    2078853

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I'm going to have a stab at team.
Colgan
Lavin (needs a good performance)
McGill (would be my choice to stick with quinlivan)
Keoghan (for this game)
Conlon (still not as convinced as others, but still learning at this level)
O'Neill (out there but I think he may be a option)
S mcenetee (xhad a actual good game v Cavan and is improving)
Menton
Rooney (don't know if he can last full 70, but better to start him)
J mcenetee (one bad game does not make a bad player) , dye hair blonde again seemed to work up to now lol )
Mckeever (didn't have a great game v Cavan but is class player)
O'Sullivan (better played out further imo)
Brennan (trust me this guy is gonna be a great Meath player, he's got off to a rocky start, but the ability is there, this game could be set up for his style of play)
Lenihane (if he's fit he starts)
Reilly, (my old pal hasn't got the engine that made him so fearful, less tracking back play him as a link man between two man ff line.

Tobin, wallace, McMahon, Flanagan, and burke all as the subs when needed.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/02/2018 20:39:10    2078856

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Look on Sunday Cavan were better than us, mostly cause we failed in everything nearly we tried. Cavan are no world beaters we made you look good, you see we know we can play better , but can Cavan???"
Amen RD. The first half was as insipid as I've seen Meath since Down last year, we'll get back to playing better.
Also very sad that some Cavan posters, with all the underage success they've had in recent years, seem to think being better than Meath in Brefini in February is some major achievement. Real small time thinking.

pauk123 (USA) - Posts: 189 - 20/02/2018 21:00:08    2078860

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It's like groundhog day on this forum rinse and repeat with changes to the team after a humbling defeat! Team should stay more or less the same as the last day bar a couple of changes. We don't have the depth of squad at all which was seen when Rooney got the black card last Sunday. We are a match for anyone at home in Navan but when we are on the road we are not the same outfit. I'd grab your hand for a draw at this stage. My biggest concern is the style of football that I have witnessed this year with not enough presence in our forward line with too many lads in the middle third. This is where I want to see improvement on, where we go and attack the opposition with good direct play and not full of lateral foot and kick passes as we have nobody to kick the ball into.

Westtip (Meath) - Posts: 24 - 20/02/2018 22:52:08    2078900

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My team for Tipp game for what it's worth.

1.Colgan
2.Lavin
3.MacGill
4.Keoghan
5.O'Neill
6.Conlon
7.McEntee
8.Menton
9.Rooney
10.McEntee
11.O'Sullivan
12.Wallace
13.Lenihan
14.Reilly
15.McKeever

Reilly with the option to roam leaving the other 2 lads in the full forward line at all times.

Westtip (Meath) - Posts: 24 - 20/02/2018 23:04:56    2078902

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Look on Sunday Cavan were better than us, mostly cause we failed in everything nearly we tried. Cavan are no world beaters we made you look good, you see we know we can play better , but can Cavan???"
Cool the jets. Meath supporters should look in the mirror more often rather than looking out the window at other counties. Consistently there comments are based on what they would and should have done, have done in the past and their right of passage to be seen as a top GAA football county. Lads its gone and no amount of pontificating about what you should do, based on what you did in the past and where you perceive Meath Football to be based on will make you a top competitive team.

The amount of posts on your own and other county forum pages relaying this is ridiculous. Whilst I enjoy the amusement of this, it is tedious. No matter how many times you repeat something it doesn't mean it is the case even if you have convinced yourself it is.

Cavan for years lived off Sam Maguire wins that can only be seen through faded black and white footage. Then out of the Blue we won an Ulster in 1997 and lived off that for a Decade or more (some probably still are) but most supporters have gotten the monkey off their back and realise that we are at best in the second tier of counties with hope and expectation to rise and bed into the top tier. At best we are bubbling under at the moment. Most fans realise this.

The difference between Cavan And Meath is that whilst both are not world beaters Cavan realise this and are not arrogant enough to delude themselves that they are anything else. Off course both strive to improve and be better or else they would do what Paddy O'Rourke did and pack it in.

offtheditch (Cavan) - Posts: 157 - 21/02/2018 07:31:47    2078916

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Replying To Westtip:  "It's like groundhog day on this forum rinse and repeat with changes to the team after a humbling defeat! Team should stay more or less the same as the last day bar a couple of changes. We don't have the depth of squad at all which was seen when Rooney got the black card last Sunday. We are a match for anyone at home in Navan but when we are on the road we are not the same outfit. I'd grab your hand for a draw at this stage. My biggest concern is the style of football that I have witnessed this year with not enough presence in our forward line with too many lads in the middle third. This is where I want to see improvement on, where we go and attack the opposition with good direct play and not full of lateral foot and kick passes as we have nobody to kick the ball into."
Agreed 100% ..... with forwards alert and always being available to run into space for a pass etc.. I hope sideline will have learned from last day.

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 21/02/2018 08:45:40    2078921

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Replying To pauk123:  "Amen RD. The first half was as insipid as I've seen Meath since Down last year, we'll get back to playing better.
Also very sad that some Cavan posters, with all the underage success they've had in recent years, seem to think being better than Meath in Brefini in February is some major achievement. Real small time thinking."
Same way meath people thought beating Clare in navan in February was the start of our run to inevitable promotion??

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 889 - 21/02/2018 09:26:20    2078928

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Replying To offtheditch:  "Cool the jets. Meath supporters should look in the mirror more often rather than looking out the window at other counties. Consistently there comments are based on what they would and should have done, have done in the past and their right of passage to be seen as a top GAA football county. Lads its gone and no amount of pontificating about what you should do, based on what you did in the past and where you perceive Meath Football to be based on will make you a top competitive team.

The amount of posts on your own and other county forum pages relaying this is ridiculous. Whilst I enjoy the amusement of this, it is tedious. No matter how many times you repeat something it doesn't mean it is the case even if you have convinced yourself it is.

Cavan for years lived off Sam Maguire wins that can only be seen through faded black and white footage. Then out of the Blue we won an Ulster in 1997 and lived off that for a Decade or more (some probably still are) but most supporters have gotten the monkey off their back and realise that we are at best in the second tier of counties with hope and expectation to rise and bed into the top tier. At best we are bubbling under at the moment. Most fans realise this.

The difference between Cavan And Meath is that whilst both are not world beaters Cavan realise this and are not arrogant enough to delude themselves that they are anything else. Off course both strive to improve and be better or else they would do what Paddy O'Rourke did and pack it in."
Meath supporters should look in the mirror more often rather than looking out the window at other counties ---

You are on a Meath VS Tipp Forum spouting rubbish i think you are the one looking out the window. if this is tedious for you well either don't read what is on the MEATH Forum or completely ignore what Meath lads are Writing in on other ones .Simple really isnt it. Nothing wrong with thinking our county should be aiming for Division 1 as we have only just missed out in promotion the last few years. We all know on this forum that we are not going to win a Leinster but we do know they can play a lot better then last Sunday.

SheridansTry (Meath) - Posts: 180 - 21/02/2018 09:31:10    2078929

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Some of what 'offtheditch (Cavan)' says is correct and makes more sense than a lot of what is being posted. Anyone can post on any tread!.. Some guys posting make claims with no facts to back it up coupled with Furliong1949 who appears to be preparing for a thesis on the history of football inside the county, which as little relevance on today or indeed tomorrow. Other guys who post realistic comments are criticised for being negative -all being only opinions.

Now it would be good if some posters concentrated on supporting team and management without being over the top, making unsustainable / silly clueless predictions. The team can still qualify for Div 1 even though I do not think it is the end all - a good run in the real competition (in summer pitches) would please me more and give a bit of confidence to all involved. I do agree with Flynns comments though.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 21/02/2018 10:25:52    2078939

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I'm going to have a stab at team.
Colgan
Lavin (needs a good performance)
McGill (would be my choice to stick with quinlivan)
Keoghan (for this game)
Conlon (still not as convinced as others, but still learning at this level)
O'Neill (out there but I think he may be a option)
S mcenetee (xhad a actual good game v Cavan and is improving)
Menton
Rooney (don't know if he can last full 70, but better to start him)
J mcenetee (one bad game does not make a bad player) , dye hair blonde again seemed to work up to now lol )
Mckeever (didn't have a great game v Cavan but is class player)
O'Sullivan (better played out further imo)
Brennan (trust me this guy is gonna be a great Meath player, he's got off to a rocky start, but the ability is there, this game could be set up for his style of play)
Lenihane (if he's fit he starts)
Reilly, (my old pal hasn't got the engine that made him so fearful, less tracking back play him as a link man between two man ff line.

Tobin, wallace, McMahon, Flanagan, and burke all as the subs when needed."
What age is Brennan ?

grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1174 - 21/02/2018 11:30:58    2078953

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Replying To grahamc9897:  "What age is Brennan ?"
Hes 26

Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 21/02/2018 11:44:55    2078955

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So who's getting behind the lads Saturday, I'm hearing lads saying they aren't worth the travel....

Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 21/02/2018 11:56:51    2078958

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Tipp are a decent team at good dirert football. My worry b our forward line from there kick outs they move forward to link up with lines of play from all angles if lads not tracked I can see goals coming here. Let's hope we play to OUR strengths this week.up the royals

Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 21/02/2018 13:08:18    2078971

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Replying To Loyalroyal17:  "So who's getting behind the lads Saturday, I'm hearing lads saying they aren't worth the travel...."
Understandable many supporters are totally frustrated with the RUBBISH football Meath are trying to play. Remember all matches played so far this year were against poor/moderate opposition. Whilst we have to allow for a degree of experimentation with player selection ,that does not excuse the adherence to a game plan [if you can call it that] that is non productive. In this regard the sideline have proven very poor so far. Who would want to travel to see this rubbish on an ongoing basis? Just because you happen to be a supporter does not mean you have to remain silent ,and accept totally inadequate preparation .Yes the lads look physically fit,but that is only half the requirement of any ream. Mental preparation, team plans etc. essential also being the other half. Credit where credit is due our physical fitness is ok . The other half very poor . No doubt the easily identifiable posters on here will say "oh i will support the lads regardless" Up ya Boya. Well that is your right of course. Don't try to impress on others that we all should do the same!

nobull456 (Meath) - Posts: 1224 - 21/02/2018 13:11:55    2078972

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Replying To southmeathgael:  "Same way meath people thought beating Clare in navan in February was the start of our run to inevitable promotion??"
True, but I don't recall Meath people going on the Clare forum telling them how much better we are and gloating over a league game in February. The sumtotal of achievement for some Cavan posters seems to be beating Meath, sad really.

pauk123 (USA) - Posts: 189 - 21/02/2018 13:12:53    2078973

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Replying To nobull456:  "Understandable many supporters are totally frustrated with the RUBBISH football Meath are trying to play. Remember all matches played so far this year were against poor/moderate opposition. Whilst we have to allow for a degree of experimentation with player selection ,that does not excuse the adherence to a game plan [if you can call it that
that is non productive. In this regard the sideline have proven very poor so far. Who would want to travel to see this rubbish on an ongoing basis? Just because you happen to be a supporter does not mean you have to remain silent ,and accept totally inadequate preparation .Yes the lads look physically fit,but that is only half the requirement of any ream. Mental preparation, team plans etc. essential also being the other half. Credit where credit is due our physical fitness is ok . The other half very poor . No doubt the easily identifiable posters on here will say "oh i will support the lads regardless" Up ya Boya. Well that is your right of course. Don't try to impress on others that we all should do the same!"]1st of all im not trying to impress anything on others, just asked a simple question?? 2nd of all i think its a sad day when supporters have your attitude, i understand what you are saying as i know myself the money and time that goes into following the lads from January through to whenever but if we all had that attitude there would be nobody behind them. Makes me laugh when we are playing well, grounds are packed out and when we are not well its embarrassing the crowd or lack of that are there. They need all the support they can get...but thats just how i feel.

Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 21/02/2018 13:41:50    2078980

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