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Meath v Kildare Semi-final

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "Bit rich coming from a guy who still spews nothing but bile and vitriol at our last manager even though he's been out of the job for almost a year now. Is he not also "one of our own"?
You've also come out stating that some players yesterday are not intercounty standard. That's your opinion and you are more than entitled to it, but can I ask why you feel you're entitled to criticize certain players yet when other posters criticize, you resort to personal insults and petty digs like claiming posters want Meath to lose? Why the double standard?
I would genuinely like an answer to this."
Ahh I see cause it was a rathoath player is the problem. Eamonn Wallace has had one good game for Meath v Tyrone in mickos first year, he has had injuries along the way, but along with cian O'Brien they just cant cut it at county standard in my own opinion, they have been tried many times but even against the likes of Louth they don't do it again in my own opinion.
Thanks lads for your service and best of luck with your club. I do rate McMahon even though he had bad game yesterday . So its not anti rathoath , as for mod? He is one That brought us to where we are, and Andy is trying to revive it.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/06/2017 22:34:45    2001459

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Replying To SheridansTry:  "Its easy to blame 1 player. When he doesnt play well we do lose. We do have good forwards but not used properly and too much responsility is on him. No one should slate him he had a bad game and got subbed off end of. Why dont people focus on midfied getting slautered or our backs conceding 5 goals in 2 games ?"
Careful now. Dont bring logic and common sense into the anti biggie/cilles agenda of those on hear
You are of course right , but it doesn't matter to those with agendas.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/06/2017 22:41:41    2001465

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Ahh I see cause it was a rathoath player is the problem. Eamonn Wallace has had one good game for Meath v Tyrone in mickos first year, he has had injuries along the way, but along with cian O'Brien they just cant cut it at county standard in my own opinion, they have been tried many times but even against the likes of Louth they don't do it again in my own opinion.
Thanks lads for your service and best of luck with your club. I do rate McMahon even though he had bad game yesterday . So its not anti rathoath , as for mod? He is one That brought us to where we are, and Andy is trying to revive it."
And again you make it personal. You're beyond a joke at this stage. How about you grow a pair and answer my question?
You are more than entitled to hold your opinion. I have not even argued against your opinion as a matter of fact. The question is simple: why do you resort to insults and petty digs when someone criticizes Biggy's performance.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 18/06/2017 23:36:21    2001501

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "And again you make it personal. You're beyond a joke at this stage. How about you grow a pair and answer my question?
You are more than entitled to hold your opinion. I have not even argued against your opinion as a matter of fact. The question is simple: why do you resort to insults and petty digs when someone criticizes Biggy's performance."
Your wasting your time having a discission with this guy ! He will stick with his opinions to the death...

grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1175 - 18/06/2017 23:43:37    2001509

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Careful now. Dont bring logic and common sense into the anti biggie/cilles agenda of those on hear
You are of course right , but it doesn't matter to those with agendas."
Who gives a damn about the cilles ! You think everyone has an agenda ! My god

grahamc9897 (Meath) - Posts: 1175 - 19/06/2017 00:09:31    2001517

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'Even against the likes of Louth' - this certainly made me laugh RoyalDunne. This is the same Louth team who you clearly stated would pose a greater challenge to Meath than Kildare. Also, you stated earlier that I was lying when I said Reilly was not injured yesterday. Can you please tell me who your 'sources are' to say he suffered an injury last Tuesday night? I have nothing whatsoever against Graham and indeed have met him a few times and find him to be a nice chap but your constant defending of him is bordering on ridiculous at this stage. He had a very poor game, along with many others, on Saturday and we need him to step up to the plate when we play the bigger sides, not 'against the likes of Louth' and Clare.

RoylerKing (Meath) - Posts: 809 - 19/06/2017 00:23:01    2001522

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Replying To Ratoath Royal:  "And again you make it personal. You're beyond a joke at this stage. How about you grow a pair and answer my question?
You are more than entitled to hold your opinion. I have not even argued against your opinion as a matter of fact. The question is simple: why do you resort to insults and petty digs when someone criticizes Biggy's performance."
Look I have made my views very very clear if you cant understand them, I cant help you with that, I answered everything you asked.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/06/2017 00:27:40    2001524

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Replying To grahamc9897:  "Majority of this forum don't agree with your opinion... I'm not going to get into an argument about graham again .The simple facts are that he is a fine player at times ,!outstanding against weaker opposition but struggles against division 1 opposition! Now that's not all his fault every other player was getting roasted aswell yesterday ! Captain or no captain that doesnt come into a selection process ! Plenty of them have been dropped before ! The performance v Louth was irrelevant yesterday as Longford gave them a hiding in Drogheda ! And Royaldunne your no better supporter than the next man ! Blind optimism when we get hammered by Kildare in the league then get hammered by them again 6 months later and keep repeating the sane nonsense over and over ! This year has been very poor but there is still time yet so hopefully it will inprove! And finally if (and I don't think he did) Biggy was injured he shouldn't have played ! Looks like your clutching at straws though ! Pretty pathetic on your part !"
Btw majority of this forum in your opinion. I think majority do agree with me. As facts are facts. He is our best player and when he doesn't play well for whatever reason, we get beat more often than not.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 19/06/2017 00:30:39    2001528

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Careful now. Dont bring logic and common sense into the anti biggie/cilles agenda of those on hear
You are of course right , but it doesn't matter to those with agendas."
You're dead right RD it's not the fault of one man. The entire setup for the game was wrong. No defensive plan, no plan B for the attack, no plan for kickouts both for and against, and no plan to change things.

You're also right there are agendas on here. Calling out the disastrous management team who are in charge of all of the above seems to be anti that agenda.

pauk123 (USA) - Posts: 189 - 19/06/2017 00:42:53    2001534

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Cut Biggy a bit of slack will yiz. He wasnt the only one who didnt turn up yesterday. He didnt injure his back..and he feels fairly shitty today over the game. Its an amateur sport at the end of the day. The pressure he has been under since the louth game is ridiculous with all the media coverage. He automatically comes under the spotlight when we lose..whats that all about

Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 19/06/2017 00:55:42    2001540

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Lies.
Graham was injured in Tue eve , and this will be confirmed over next couple of days."
Maybe that is true but I for one dont believe that andy, who wont play lads coming back from injury until they're at least 80% , would play him. Graham is a potentially great footballer but he needs to work IN EVERY GAME.

royal69er (Meath) - Posts: 96 - 19/06/2017 08:04:51    2001556

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Replying To royaldunne:  "Look I have made my views very very clear if you cant understand them, I cant help you with that, I answered everything you asked."
No you did not! I'll ask for a third time. Why do you feel it's necessary to resort to digs and insults when someone criticizes Biggy's performance while you feel entitled to criticize every other player?
Personally, I don't feel any player (or manager) should be above criticism when it's deserved. In my opinion, your criticisms of Eamonn Wallace are valid. Likewise, criticisms of both Biggy and Andy McEntee after Saturday's game are equally valid. However, you insinuate that posters want Meath to lose when the latter two are criticized.

Ratoath Royal (Meath) - Posts: 1374 - 19/06/2017 08:33:49    2001569

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Sligo at home

royal69er (Meath) - Posts: 96 - 19/06/2017 08:41:07    2001571

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Replying To royal69er:  "Sligo at home"
Saturday was bad but if we can get a decent run in the qualifiers this season this season can still be one of progress.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1400 - 19/06/2017 08:59:49    2001581

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Replying To Loyalroyal17:  "Cut Biggy a bit of slack will yiz. He wasnt the only one who didnt turn up yesterday. He didnt injure his back..and he feels fairly shitty today over the game. Its an amateur sport at the end of the day. The pressure he has been under since the louth game is ridiculous with all the media coverage. He automatically comes under the spotlight when we lose..whats that all about"
Spot on. Anybody that singles out biggy hasn't a clue. We were bet everywhere Saturday......singling out one man is just wrong and clueless

southmeathgael (Meath) - Posts: 937 - 19/06/2017 09:11:50    2001590

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Replying To royal69er:  "Sligo at home"
Id like to say that we should do it...but....

Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 19/06/2017 09:14:12    2001591

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In biggys defence the game was simple set up by kildare to operate around him. Young slattery in the first half was destroying meath coming in across the pitch everytime and meath failed to cope with him. Meath were simply out worked. At one point in the second half a kildare man spilled the ball with three meath men within 2 yards of him and he still came out with the ball. Meath were bullied off the ball on the day and thats simply the facts of it. I dont think kildare have any more talent than meath but in terms of gamesmanship and cuteness they are way out in front. Meath need to get the dirty side of the game back

Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 640 - 19/06/2017 09:18:21    2001595

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Replying To royal69er:  "Maybe that is true but I for one dont believe that andy, who wont play lads coming back from injury until they're at least 80% , would play him. Graham is a potentially great footballer but he needs to work IN EVERY GAME."
I know Biggy, he wasn't injured and im not sure where that has come from. Defo didnt come from him as hes not one to make excuses and McEntee would never put anyone on injured. He just had a bad day and the sooner people accept it and move on the better, personally im getting tired of this whole Graham debate at this stage its getting boring as it does every time we lose and hes in the firing line.

Loyalroyal17 (Meath) - Posts: 627 - 19/06/2017 09:18:45    2001596

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Replying To Loyalroyal17:  "Cut Biggy a bit of slack will yiz. He wasnt the only one who didnt turn up yesterday. He didnt injure his back..and he feels fairly shitty today over the game. Its an amateur sport at the end of the day. The pressure he has been under since the louth game is ridiculous with all the media coverage. He automatically comes under the spotlight when we lose..whats that all about"
It must be hard on amateur players being criticised like this considering all the effort they put in with training and the like but the truth is he comes under the spotlight more because he probably has more football ability than any other player on the team. Since Bray left we are more reliant on him.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1400 - 19/06/2017 09:39:12    2001610

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It was a terrible day at the office and we can apportion blame at some different quarters regarding decisions made on the day both on and off the field. But in reality due to the fact that the club seen in Meath is so poor it would be very hard to expect a different result. There is no one jumping out on the club seen who hasn't been tried and tested with the county. Yes we can play better than last Saturday but Kildare would still have beaten us as they have better players. We need midfielders so that we can move Menton back to the half backs and Keoghan to the full back line because we are taking from Peter to pay Paul with both these situations and both are suffering which is very unfair on both players. We also need a target man or two for the forward who can win their own ball to score or distribute it. We have a nice team but nice teams dont win.....
Now re group for Sligo, hopefully beat them and see where we go from there..

anto_meath (Meath) - Posts: 108 - 19/06/2017 09:52:10    2001623

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