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we cant blame conditions as they are same for both teams
asitis (Cavan) - Posts: 233 - 20/06/2016 10:47:42 1869404 Link 0 |
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The losers of this match play Wicklow at home in the qualifiers
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 20/06/2016 13:13:48 1869581 Link 1 |
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Sorry the losers of this match play Carlow at home not Wicklow in the qualifiers. Typo error on my behalf.
The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 20/06/2016 13:23:30 1869592 Link 0 |
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Glad to get the draw, mcaveety ,dunne, macky, had great games and givney done well with no support, very disappointed with the management they seemed to forget they had sub's with them at the game, no point having a great panel and putting on sub's in injury time ,Tyrone had 3 on early,our first came with about 10 mins to go that's not good enough, well done to the players do.
blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 20/06/2016 13:33:48 1869598 Link 0 |
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Should have freshened up the team with 20 minutes to go. Players dead on feet from effort put in. Galligans kick outs were phenomenal. McVeety and Martin Reilly tried hard. Givney isolated on long ball. Mackey done some nice things. The slip pass for Ciaran Brady for last goal for example. Niall Murray our best player in my opinion. doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 20/06/2016 14:06:30 1869636 Link 0 |
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Very surprise at Tyrone at conceded 3 goals. Cavan have put a lot of work into underage but they never took through a forward like MC Manus in Monaghan Cavan don't have forwards that can score points Tyrone to win by 5 points d next day .
geardlines (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 20/06/2016 14:15:03 1869646 Link 1 |
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Yes we could do with a McManus, but so could a lot of teams there's not too many as good as him a round the country.
blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 20/06/2016 14:52:18 1869692 Link 0 |
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Cannot blame the management for high ball tactics,it paid dividends.It is ok for Kerry to use it over the years with Donaghy and for Mayo to use it with A. O'Shea and Donegal to use it with Murphy but not for Cavan to use it.Terry proved by using it that Tyrone are vulnerable which also means they will have to change their team around next day for a change.The high ball may have reaped even more dividend if we had a bit of pace in beside Givney for breaking ball.The place for Killian is midfield on Mattie Donnelly,put big Gearoid out of the centre next day as a wing forward and decide if we play Jack Brady inside or big Michael Argue.Also Jason McLoughlin would be a major help in doing a man marking job on either McCurry,McAllister or O'Neill. celt2018 (Cavan) - Posts: 160 - 20/06/2016 16:21:00 1869766 Link 1 |
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Terry & Co certainly gave Mickey Harte food for thought . Unfortunately when you give Harte a few ingredients he serves a 7 star dish.. The lack of belief & the adaptability needed as the game etches and flows is missing from the Cavan Dugout. Management surely froze from 50th-65th minute & lads lost their positioning. Denn Man (Cavan) - Posts: 413 - 20/06/2016 16:35:40 1869779 Link 0 |
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Agree with you and most of the posts. Don't agree with poster who said Dunne, Gunner etc should have scored! They are backs. Needed subs sooner. Fierce lucky that last goal was scored. Was nothing short of insulting to the subs who were bought in late. Several of our regulars shouldn't have started the 2nd half. Cluichepeil (Cavan) - Posts: 57 - 20/06/2016 16:36:04 1869780 Link 0 |
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The point I was trying to make was that the wrong men were on the end of the moves and that they were all scoreable chances which were missed because they were backs...... Killian Clarke is best playing as a half back, he was great there in 2013 bombing forward setting up overlaps but someone mentioned about him playing midfield and marking Donnelly which is worth trying if Gearoid can move onto the 40, thought Gearoid was gone with about 15mins to go yesterday and Donnelly skipped past him a few times... breffni47 (Cavan) - Posts: 34 - 20/06/2016 16:58:38 1869788 Link 0 |
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I have no idea what's going down in training but if we are going to persist with the tactics employed yesterday then Keating should start the next day and be sited close to goal with Givney. Leaving just one up there is madness. You need your trigger men close to goal and with the best will in the world Killian Clarke could never be described as a trigger man. If Seanie is to play then he should also be sited close to Givney but on balance I would start Keating ahead of Seanie the next day. kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 578 - 20/06/2016 18:09:59 1869832 Link 0 |
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Thank you!! It absolutely baffles me how an "expert" like Spillane can watch the game and come to the conclusion that Cavan got 2 goals from playing the hail mary ball tactic. 1st goal - An overlap led to a goalscoring chance and the rebound was scored 2nd goal - Galligan attempted to score a free kick but it dropped short 3rd goal - the ball was worked in and fisted across the square cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5193 - 20/06/2016 18:19:48 1869836 Link 0 |
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Thank you!! It absolutely baffles me how an "expert" like Spillane can watch the game and come to the conclusion that Cavan got 2 goals from playing the hail mary ball tactic. 1st goal - An overlap led to a goalscoring chance and the rebound was scored 2nd goal - Galligan attempted to score a free kick but it dropped short 3rd goal - the ball was worked in and fisted across the square cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5193 - 20/06/2016 18:21:11 1869837 Link 0 |
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Good man '47, someone else gets it! Cavan lost almost every high ball they played up, the goals had nothing to do with it. I am all for Cavan playing long early ball against Tyrone, but there is a big difference between a high dropping ball and a pass drilled in early and accurate. The high ball suits Tyrone because it gives them time to swarm the receiver. An early low pass should bypass the half backs quickly and give inside forwards an advantage. They have to get Martin Reilly on the ball to do this. It would actually benefit Cavan if Tyrone overreact and select big slow players to counter the high ball. But Mickey, unlike the experts, will have read the game correctly. MadgeKing (Cavan) - Posts: 493 - 20/06/2016 19:23:11 1869865 Link 0 |
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did we have a few drinks when we posted this nonsense. " they were no where near their best were as we where there abouts are best" s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 20/06/2016 19:28:02 1869869 Link 0 |
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Seanie is absolutely no threat 45 metres from goals. You either play him off Givney close to goals or you don't play him at all. When Givney won ball he had no one to give it to. I'd actually play Jack Brady and SJ in the full forward line with Givney . If that wasn't working pull Givney out to centre forward and leave a 2 man full forward line with width and pace. Attacking backs need scoring inside forwards to play to, it would limit the wild off the outside of the boot shots by backs. If MCCarron was stretched wide he's venerable. Both Seanie and Jack can take players on coming from the wings if the route 1 football to Givney wasn't working. Very impressed with the turnovers the backs won but still have a tendency to get turned over running into blind alleys mainly because there was no inside forwards to let it in to. When we took them at pavce in the first minute from the wings Givney scored his first goal. Stretch them wide and run at them, they are vulnerable out wide. There very strong coming forward up the middle. Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 20/06/2016 19:35:12 1869872 Link 0 |
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so where did you think that the ref should have shown blaclk or red. I thought he had a decent enough game. umpires were a disaster. surely umpires should be raising the green flag if the ball goes over the line. they are right beside it. also they should be calling square balls and 45s. umpire didn't signal that final 45 until ref told him to. strange old game, in some ways a freak of a game. how we drew a game against Tyrone whilst scoring 5 points from play is anyone's guess. I agree about late late substitutions our management seem to make the correct substitutions and at the correct time when we are winning a game but for some reason they seem reluctant to make them when we are losing. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5520 - 20/06/2016 19:36:32 1869873 Link 0 |
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If you played a two man full forward line of Johnston and Jack Brady against Tyrone you would never score. How did SJ do inside in league final. I'm afraid you really don't have a clue if you think that's a good idea.
fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 20/06/2016 19:52:44 1869883 Link 0 |
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In reply to earlier post. Of course Gunner should have scored. He was standing on the 15. Plays midfield a lot for his club. doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 20/06/2016 20:50:18 1869902 Link 0 |