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Replying To Breffinifan: "These clubs won't join up . They all have club grounds ,ect . It's easy to talk here but reality is another thing." The reality is we're in a crisis with the state and standard of club football in our county. It's diabolical. Plain and simple. Have a look at my opening post on this thread and read the statistics. In 16 Ulster matches our intermediate and senior champions have won a grand total of two. I understand things will never change, but it is beyond ridiculous that we ever allowed a situation like this to develop in our county, where we have per capita, the third most amount of clubs of any county in Ireland. The blame lies with the administration of GAA in Cavan over the years. Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 31/10/2016 13:24:09 1930390 Link
Replying To Ned_Stormcrow: "The reality is we're in a crisis with the state and standard of club football in our county. It's diabolical. Plain and simple. Have a look at my opening post on this thread and read the statistics. In 16 Ulster matches our intermediate and senior champions have won a grand total of two. I understand things will never change, but it is beyond ridiculous that we ever allowed a situation like this to develop in our county, where we have per capita, the third most amount of clubs of any county in Ireland. The blame lies with the administration of GAA in Cavan over the years." May I ask what your club is Ned and whether you'd be ok with joining with your nearest neighbours and forming a new club called Saint Somethingorother? fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 31/10/2016 13:55:43 1930395 Link
Arva were in Division 1 a this year, and competed well. There is too many clubs in senior championship ,but that argument makes no difference since Arva beat a few senior clubs in the league. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2825 - 31/10/2016 16:39:03 1930437 Link
Ned, Cavan's population was much larger when the clubs would have been developing. Cavan were Ulster Kingpins and all was well. The population slowly diminished over the years leaving us with a large number of clubs for our population. I'm failing to see who is meant to take the blame here? What 'administration' failures caused this? Inactive x5 (Cavan) - Posts: 1452 - 31/10/2016 17:43:14 1930458 Link
Belturbet were nearly relagated to junior and will play in Division 1 next year. RHF (Cavan) - Posts: 878 - 31/10/2016 18:47:57 1930475 Link
player numbers are down. Clubs struggling to field teams at underage. I highlighted this a few years ago FrDougalMaguire (Cavan) - Posts: 152 - 01/11/2016 09:55:18 1930567 Link
I can't see a time where we will have clubs merging within a parish even if it is the right way to think. I don't expect any Cavan team to be competitive in Ulster when we have the system as it is. But then, there is some sort of mental block there too. If we look back to when the Gaels had 7+ county players, they still didn't come close to winning an Ulster albeit they were as close as we have seen in many years. Personally, im not too bothered with the club Ulster thing as I would rather see players get a rest and regroup. The main issue in Cavan and many other counties remains that a lot of club players are not getting games during the year and this is the main issue to be resolved. Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 01/11/2016 11:18:54 1930598 Link
If you're wondering today, why we can't beat a hurling county at home, or indeed, why we can't seem to win anything, then read my opening post on this thread. The club scene is key. We don't produce good footballers in Cavan because the standard they're playing at week in week out is pure s**. The future is not blue. Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan)** - Posts: 1071 - 09/07/2017 10:03:14 2012810 Link
Club scene had nothing to do with throwing a 6 point half time Lead. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2825 - 09/07/2017 18:09:58 2013206 Link
Replying To FoolsGold: "Club scene had nothing to do with throwing a 6 point half time Lead." You're missing the point entirely. Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 09/07/2017 21:46:38 2013425 Link
Replying To Ned_Stormcrow: "You're missing the point entirely." I think we all know that amalgamating clubs will never fly. Personally I have another problem with amalgamations as they actually reduce the numbers playing our sport. I do though concede cavan having 60 odd clubs and a population of 70k or so is mental. I would propose that senior football championship is cut down to 12 teams. Only 6 or so clubs can enter on their own right, the rest must be amalgamated. However senior champ is not started until intermediate and junior is finished. The intermediate and junior champ should be knock out or as close to that as is possible. Senior best 6 clubs with 6 regional amalgamations enter round robin stage of championship. I know that's very top level and more detail needed but the basis is all clubs have their own championship before any amalgamation. fredflint (Cavan) - Posts: 1485 - 09/07/2017 21:57:11 2013438 Link
Replying To rahanman: "If we fail to change then we can expect outcomes to be remain pretty much as they are. Hope is great . I hope to win Euromillions this weekend. Our Club Competition structures have left Cavan SFC Teams in particular uncompetitive at Ulster level. I fear that our County AGM will be dominated by our Financial circumstances and we will rumble on with the same tired system which has failed us continously. We need to develop footballers who are not afraid to win." Two years on, this post is still relevant. I suspect in twenty years we could still say the same thing. Cavan fans have nothing but hope. Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 09/07/2017 22:29:45 2013485 Link
Club football should go ahead regardless of where the county team are playing. More County players get injured in county training, warmups than they do playing club football. Yes the week before a county senior game there should be no club football . That's enough. It would actually benefit the county scene to have county players playing club football as it keeps them sharp as is of more benefit than county training matches. County players are too wrapped up in cotton wool these days . We should be at the quarter final stages of the club championships by now. Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 10/07/2017 11:27:44 2013848 Link
The administration aren't throwing the jerseys on and kicking the balls wide. Poor managers are to blame. foxes_denn (Cavan) - Posts: 129 - 15/07/2017 16:49:05 2016993 Link
Replying To foxes_denn: "The administration aren't throwing the jerseys on and kicking the balls wide. Poor managers are to blame." No but they are tasked with producing the very footballers who kick the balls wide. Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 15/07/2017 18:11:48 2017039 Link
The games should be played regardless if cavan is still in championship or not, or even at the very least as soon as cavan is knocked out of Ulster it should be full steam ahead for there never going to do anything close to an all-Ireland, look at the club scene now over the weekend, how many county boys didn't play with there clubs too?? It's a joke to make teams play 2 games in 2 weeks and the championship straight after that, the league should be over by right and play out the championship and then that is the season over as lads needs a break instead of this carry on of playing the championship and then most teams having micky mouse games to play in the league after it and then clubs being given walkovers!!!!! mcdaddy (Cavan) - Posts: 26 - 17/07/2017 09:46:45 2017890 Link
Drumlane were hammered by Emyvale in the first round of Ulster a few weeks ago. Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 29/10/2018 10:12:23 2148567 Link
Replying To Cavan_Shambles: "Drumlane were hammered by Emyvale in the first round of Ulster a few weeks ago." They only had a week turnaround. doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 29/10/2018 11:42:12 2148574 Link
Replying To doratheexplorer: "They only had a week turnaround." 6 days where emyvale has 3 weeks. blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts: 885 - 29/10/2018 12:52:59 2148580 Link
Replying To doratheexplorer: "They only had a week turnaround." Ok. What's your point exactly? Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 29/10/2018 13:32:58 2148584 Link