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A full half without scoring, it's incredible stuff, I mean McHale must be wondering to himself what sort of a setup he has walked into. It's just unheard of in other counties, you simply wouldn't get this ideology anywhere. Ned_Stormcrow (Cavan) - Posts: 1071 - 25/01/2015 11:31:56 1686168 Link 0 |
Starting to really wonder if this idea of cavans strength-in-depth is all its cracked up to be. we have 15-20 decent, honest squad players who are so similar in quality as to be indistinguishable from each other. These lads can run all day, tackle in packs and cover ground, perfect for numbers 3,4,5,7,10,12, and 13. MadgeKing (Cavan) - Posts: 493 - 25/01/2015 11:56:58 1686173 Link 0 |
So predictable, the MOANFEST. 5allirelands (Cavan) - Posts: 90 - 25/01/2015 12:11:42 1686177 Link 0 |
5allirelands s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 25/01/2015 12:54:19 1686186 Link 0 |
Folks, in assessing what happened last night you have to take the following into consideration: kildare blue (Cavan) - Posts: 578 - 25/01/2015 13:30:15 1686195 Link 0 |
I thought the worst thing about the second half was the refusal of individuals to take responsibility for themselves. Fear is the other thing - any player who thinks himself up to county standard should be able to kick a ball from 30-40 yards. All this strength and conditioning and they can't drive a ball even wide and at least get a restart on equal terms. We saw poor halves against both Monaghan and Fermanagh but we just weren't punished. I can't think of a single club in Cavan that plays this kind of football so where is it coming from? Like everyone else who followed Cavan through the worst years, we seldom played without heart and courage but that seems to be off limits now. Liam McHale is only a few wet weeks in the camp. He must be baffled at what he is seeing and wondering if he has made a bad mistake. As regards physicality, our team is not that small. Tyrone have some average sized men but they play like bigger men. I'm not looking forward to next weekend but I'll still go to the match in the hope that the team will make a statement about itself. In fairness they did that for most of the first half last night. RoyalBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 198 - 25/01/2015 13:33:11 1686196 Link 0 |
Eh Lads..........it's the McKenna Cup....a good workout, naught more ramor101 (Cavan) - Posts: 289 - 25/01/2015 13:45:46 1686199 Link 0 |
Look I don't think Cavan are as bad as the second half suggested, it seem the wind increased in the second half. Hyland in my opinion has to get the best players in Cavan onto the field. If Cavan had Mackey,Givney,McKiernan,Keating and Johnston on the field it would make a huge difference. Arguably them players are in the top 7 players in Cavan adding Rory Dunne and Killian Clarke into that 7. Hyland has to realise that the style of football cavan play will only get you so far. Donegal evolved their play so far it seems the same with as day dot with Hyland. Cavan move the ball far too slow and its seems players take the easy option instead of taking risks. Its lies with the management not the players for last nights show. Newguy22 (Louth) - Posts: 8 - 25/01/2015 14:10:49 1686202 Link 0 |
I DID say in my piece that not scoring in the 2nd half is totally unacceptable, I know that. 5allirelands (Cavan) - Posts: 90 - 25/01/2015 15:25:25 1686218 Link 0 |
I DID say that going the second half without scoring is totally unacceptable, we all know that. 5allirelands (Cavan) - Posts: 90 - 25/01/2015 15:49:14 1686221 Link 0 |
Jesus lads your very downcast. It's only the mc kenna cup. Tyrone take it very seriously due to its connection with the late cormac mc anellan. Ye Have a great chance in division two. I was at a lot of monaghan's games last year and they were ordinary enough. The one difference between us is that we have Conor mc manus while Ye have no one. Apart from that both teams are equal enough and it will be a toss of a coin who wins in the championship room2 (Monaghan) - Posts: 96 - 25/01/2015 16:56:26 1686235 Link 0 |
Cavan did start out very well with good performances in a lot of ways, positives were speed of the attack, good scores taken from out the field fast ball to Martin Dunne, good tackles and turnovers. We went in in the lead at half time, I thought moving mc veety into fullback line was a mistake, Hayes had a shaky start and was on yellow but had settled and does attack well, but mc veety was very good in half forward line was crucial to our attack and I think that's where the rot set in when he was gone out of it, he had an excellent first half there and was excellent against Fermanagh till injured. Hyland seems to have great faith in Flanagan but he is a big part of the pass sideways pass back problem. Kicking frees backwards is the road to nowhere, do we have a kicking coach for the forwards someone like Larry Reilly Jason reilly???. Killian Clarke and Mark mc keever had very good games. The management need to question ther own decisions as in not responding to the Tyrone substitutions at all. It's not all doom we played some very nice football in first half can't understand why the team didn't just come out and build on that in second half. As for the inside forwards they are makin runs and calls for ball and must despair seeing the half back line and a sweeper turn around and go back ways, let them take a chance and get the ball forward its not fair to blame Dunne and Mc Dermott would love to see their possession stats as opposed to say Flannagans or DJ reillys, the latter two must have 5 for every 1 the forwards have.???. Good luck to the team next week in The league, don't be disheartened there was a lot of good last night and we owe Roscommon one, go on lads we can do it. shannon414 (Cavan) - Posts: 228 - 25/01/2015 17:00:19 1686237 Link 0 |
Shannon. 414.... I think you are right about Flannagan...he slows the game down too much going crossways and back...sur didnt he famously kick a sideline ball in the attacking half back to the goalkeeper against the mighty London in Croke Park....the forwards must dread seeing him get the ball... Then again the chap is only doing what management are telling him...! No wonder we despair....'!!!!!!!!!!! Sean66 (Cavan) - Posts: 440 - 25/01/2015 18:20:19 1686259 Link 0 |
Very different Cavan team to the one who were scoring great points from all angles against us , Dunne did well Clarke went quiet in the second half, thought McKeever was good , what age is he ? I'm expecting a good div 2 from Cavan , MonaghanGlory (Monaghan) - Posts: 738 - 25/01/2015 19:33:10 1686292 Link 0 |
Also where is Mackey this year? MonaghanGlory (Monaghan) - Posts: 738 - 25/01/2015 19:44:13 1686296 Link 0 |
Looking at Cavan's fixtures for the league I can see them back in Division 3 next year Away to Roscommon,Laois,Galway and Meath shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1928 - 25/01/2015 19:58:56 1686307 Link 0 |
A County Team not scoring in an entire half is shambolic - I've seen a lot of drivel written this week about how far we progressed under Hyland - if not scoring in a entire half is progression, they need to re-write the meaning of progression in the Collins dictionary. Poor management is the root cause of it all - no plan b...Fantastic 1st half, no shackles on, we attacked and ran through Tyrone and scored at leisure, the players actually seemed to be enjoying themselves for one, Lyng was the playmaker and was picking out good runs by the full forward line, 2nd half, they take off Lyng, we stop attacking, and start playing the ball left, right and backwards - Tyrone make a few subs, they get a few scores on the board, and Terry has no answer. deanmartin (Cavan) - Posts: 643 - 25/01/2015 20:38:58 1686332 Link 0 |
No shame in losing to Tyrone; still maybe the most talented team in Ulster. RoyalBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 198 - 25/01/2015 21:02:20 1686344 Link 0 |
No shame in losing to Tyrone at all BUT there is something wrong with lads who think that not scoring in an entire second half is fine. It's not. Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 26/01/2015 12:50:26 1686474 Link 0 |
5allirelands s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 26/01/2015 13:00:03 1686479 Link 0 |