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Another league, another opening round away fixture. Looking forward to it. Newbridge was a nice ground but needed a revamp. 97Cavans (Cavan) - Posts: 377 - 31/10/2023 12:54:21 2511045 Link 0 |
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Who have we got in the other 6 rounds (Home and Away)
Breffnisbest (Cavan) - Posts: 473 - 31/10/2023 13:54:00 2511057 Link 0 |
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Kildare away Donegal Home Louth Away Cork Away Meath home Armagh Away Fermanagh home Not 100% sure that is the order but those are the games nmel (Cavan) - Posts: 51 - 31/10/2023 14:14:24 2511060 Link 0 |
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4 away and opening game away is a tough ask. Mad how we get that so much more often. Fitzpatrick from the Celt had something up that in 24 leagues from 01 to 24 for opening games we've been at home in 3 of them. I did my own looking a few years ago and we have been 4 away 3 home in the bulk of leagues too. It's odd they can't work an algorithm to not have some teams gets it like that so often. Anyway, we have games we can target here. Have to be hoping not to depend on Fermanagh at home last day to be staying up and/or staying in Sam. Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 31/10/2023 15:56:24 2511075 Link 0 |
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Odd for sure. Maybe a little too odd at this stage. It would be interesting to see who is responsible for setting the fixtures and where he/she is from. For example, I wonder if the likes of Monaghan or Meath or another county have had the opposite pattern. I think county boards have to ratify fixtures before publication, so I wonder has our county board complained about this "anomaly"? 97Cavans (Cavan) - Posts: 377 - 01/11/2023 13:34:32 2511164 Link 0 |
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It's just another example of the GAA's lack of joined up thinking… the fact that we are playing in the 10th different division in a row might have a bit to do with it but it's surely not hard for those setting fixtures to balance the home/away opening day fixtures a lot fairer than that…. Common sense is never too common when it comes to GAA issues unfortunately…!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3029 - 01/11/2023 17:19:41 2511207 Link 0 |
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Same thing has happened in championship. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5194 - 02/11/2023 15:48:48 2511323 Link 0 |
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Beginning to sound like irish rugby fans, getting the bad draw excuse in now to mask the fact they aren't good enough. wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1720 - 02/11/2023 22:14:29 2511362 Link 0 |
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I actually thought about this before. With the exemption and such, does it not stand that the chances increase quite a lot that the team you played in your last preliminary will be the team you meet again? It's more likely than 1 in 6 with Down/Donegal (2021), Fermanagh/Tyrone (2022), and Antrim/Armagh (2023) exempt - we were 50/50 to draw either Monaghan or Derry. We 3 were the only options left
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 03/11/2023 11:50:36 2511401 Link 0 |
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Well like it is fair to say that both our draw and that rugby draw were very tough. That's not up for debate, no? And the rugby lads were hardly not good enough. They beat the eventual champions, and were the width of a leg and bounce of a ball in beating the other finalists. That's very close and hardly not good enough. I could only wish we'd be as close to a title as that
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 03/11/2023 11:52:34 2511404 Link 1 |
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We had a 2/3 chance of being drawn. Then it was 50/50 whether we'd be home or away. So it was 33% we'd be away with a further 50/50 chance of it being Monaghan or Derry. . .so 1 in 6 chance. Funnily enough, Monaghan v Cavan in Clones is the draw of all those possible that is most likely to draw the largest attendance. . cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5194 - 03/11/2023 14:58:53 2511445 Link 0 |
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Think you need to go back to maths class. Whatever about home or away, it can't be 1 to 6 odds with 3 teams. You can't run the math the way you've done it. I get your calculations, but that's not the way probability works
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 04/11/2023 01:30:10 2511478 Link 0 |
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I think Cavanman47 could be correct. I'm open to correction but the way you calculate the probability of two events happening is you have to multiply the probability of one by the other. So chances of being drawn are 2/3. Chances of playing Monaghan away are 1/4 since there's only 2 teams we can draw. So 2/3 x 1/4 gives you 2/12 or 1/6. Cavanman47 calculated in a different way but same outcome. drumalee11 (USA) - Posts: 329 - 04/11/2023 20:04:24 2511507 Link 0 |
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Cavan have every chance of making a quarter final...just as close as the rugby players ever got.
wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1720 - 04/11/2023 22:20:08 2511525 Link 0 |
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Of course, but that's not the point...
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 06/11/2023 08:09:22 2511668 Link 0 |
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The point is, if you're good enough, the draw shouldn't matter. SA played 7 games in the WC, 5 of them against teams in the top 6 in the world and didn't complain about the draw. If cavan and Ireland were good enough, they'd beat whomever they had to play.
wishfulthinkin (Cavan) - Posts: 1720 - 06/11/2023 10:49:16 2511698 Link 0 |
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There were 6 potential matches that the preliminary round could have thrown up. . Derry v Monaghan Derry v Cavan Monaghan v Derry Monaghan v Cavan Cavan v Derry Cavan v Monaghan Each had a 1 in 6 chance of coming up as no team has a home/away agreement etc. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5194 - 06/11/2023 11:27:12 2511710 Link 0 |
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Fair enough on the away or home slant, I was looking at it at simply drawing them at all which is of course more probable than 1 in 6. I get you now Also, what happened to the reciprocal arrangement? I thought it was meant to be next time you play each other, it stitches. We had them at home 2019, and away 2020. Stands to reason we should be at home this time Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 06/11/2023 11:41:01 2511716 Link 0 |
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Of course, but that doesn't mean it was abject failure or that the draw wasn't bad. It was a bad draw done very poorly 3 years in advance and did supercharge one side of the draw. That doesn't make it correct, and it can be highlighted Of course South Africa complained. You clearly haven't been looking if you think they didn't. They've complained a lot about it. In fact they are well known as some of the most sensitive fans and media you'd come across and go mental at things all the time. Ireland were good enough. They beat SA the eventual champions in a great game. They also were the bounce of a ball and width of a leg in beating NZ. That's sport though, there are winners and losers. That doesn't mean they weren't good enough. This wasn't like other QF exits, they were sickenly close here but that's the way it goes. Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2450 - 06/11/2023 11:46:26 2511718 Link 0 |
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I don't think they were good enough to win the WC. They were however good enough to get past the Quarter Finals. Ireland would not have beaten SA if pollard was in the squad. They had nightmare on the kicking tee that night. Pollard never missed a kick all tournament. If they met them again who knows what would have happened but on the evidence we seen at the WC Ireland were ranked anywhere from 3rd to 5th. drumalee11 (USA) - Posts: 329 - 06/11/2023 12:57:04 2511736 Link 0 |