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Replying To doratheexplorer: "I'd definitely be of one parish one team. Maybe the Cavan town one be too strong but likes of Maghera Munterconnaught etc..." Gaels stay by themselves, killygarry and drumalee join. Clubs should join, more money to run good clubs, better standards of football, better county team, clubs doing better in Ulster, time to bury the past and create our future, we are all blue at the end of the day. blueman1903 (Cavan) - Posts:425 - 28/07/2017 21:14:48 2025130 Why would Killygarry want to join Drumalee in a few years time Killygarry will have a very strong team guaranteed by their set up and youth development. I know nothing about Drumalee as a club. The Quiet Man (Cavan) - Posts: 4601 - 28/07/2017 22:16:47 2025147 Link 0 |
I don't ever remember killygarry winning anything important in 40 years! Anyway nobody would join up with them! They can't even agree amongst themselves!! Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 28/07/2017 23:10:04 2025169 Link 0 |
You're going to have to explain that Martin!? Would ramor be so strong if the Maghera boys played for their rightful club? I'm from Killygarry and I'll tell you now I'd rather the club folded than joined Drumalee. Take that to the bank JamsieMac (Cavan) - Posts: 482 - 29/07/2017 02:35:44 2025212 Link 0 |
Agree entirely with your assessment. How utterly depressing it is to see everyone else completely mis-interpret your point about amalgamations. Nobody reckons the gaels should amalgamate ffs, they're the strongest team in the county because they have the pick of the county town. Clubs like Maghera, Drumalee, Corlough, Kill, no disrespect to any of them, but seriously, what is the point of dividing parishes into 2 or often 3 teams? There needs to be an assessment carried out of all the clubs and the boundaries attaching to them, and we need to force clubs to join together to raise the standard for everyone. We have experience of clubs coming together at underage, where some clubs constantly struggle to get the numbers, so why is there a big fuss about doing it at senior? OR the other option is to bury our heads in the sand for another 50 years, like we've been doing for decades now, and continue to wonder why our county team is so poor. Cavan_Shambles (Cavan) - Posts: 575 - 30/07/2017 17:59:21 2026045 Link 2 |
Looking at championship results from the weekend its a very worrying fact the little difference and step between junior to senior. All divison 2 teams picked up points in the senior championship, whilst junior and intermediate clubs could compete with these division 2 teams playing senior championship. There is very little comparison in the top 3 junior clubs and bottom 4-5 senior clubs. A good Tyrone junior team would beat many of our senor clubs. Its a sad fact. lad09 (Cavan) - Posts: 239 - 31/07/2017 13:14:00 2026615 Link 0 |
The Top 3 junior clubs would compete with bottom 4 or 5 seniors? Are you serious? Compete with Mullahoran possibly and that's it. I agree that we have a poor standard of club football because there are too many clubs but suggesting junior clubs would compete with senior is nonsense. They are junior in Cavan for a reason
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - Posts: 181 - 31/07/2017 13:44:52 2026637 Link 0 |
No not much difference. They grade the teams in the championship in Tyrone based on how they do in the League. Trillick were beaten in the Intermediate final in 2014, but got promoted in the League and won the Senior Championship the following year. FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2824 - 31/07/2017 13:53:30 2026641 Link 0 |
Tomsmith here Hold on for a minute youse are all against Divisional teams where I proposed that teams come together and play Divisional foolball over the back end of the year with a view of getting on the Cavan Senior team. What youse are proposing is to amalgamate clubs which I totally disagree with. For instance Killygarry and Drumalee amalgamate so you have the Drumalee club close down. You could have Kill and Drug come together and Drung closes. Templeport and Belturbet and Templeport ceases to exist .......... O Lord foregive them for they know not what to do or sat tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3982 - 31/07/2017 21:31:41 2026967 Link 0 |
Tom Smith, Foxes_denn here. What about only picking lads who live within 30 /40 minutes drive from breffni. Also what about bringing Rory Gallagher in to manage??
foxes_denn (Cavan) - Posts: 129 - 31/07/2017 21:52:13 2026989 Link 0 |
Amalgamations simply won't happen. cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5193 - 31/07/2017 21:55:16 2026994 Link 0 |
Two kindred spirits.
doratheexplorer (Cavan) - Posts: 1467 - 31/07/2017 22:12:32 2027003 Link 0 |
Cavan Co Board wouldn't pay Rory Gallagher theDagger1986 (Cavan) - Posts: 181 - 31/07/2017 22:42:20 2027028 Link 0 |
The kerry Senior championship way would be the way forward . It would give good junior and intermediate players a chance to play Senior football. Plus the junior and intermediate could also be played in their own right. For example you could have west cavan, east cavan and mid cavan made up of junior and intermediate players contesting the Senior championship with 9 other senior clubs. 2 groups of 6 with top 2 in each group playing in semi finals. If an amalgamation won the championship the Senior club that went the furthest would represent Cavan in the Ulster club. As Amalgamations aren't allowed. Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 01/08/2017 09:35:19 2027147 Link 0 |
about 7 0r 8 years ago there were one or two amalgamated junior teams in the senior championship. The cb gave them no respect. They played their junior games with their clubs on the fri/saturday and Senior on Sunday. If the cb were being fair, the games could have been played mid week or alternative weekends. Problem is our cb are living in the dark ages and not willing to change. We need to get rid of the older men and replace them with youth. Have a look at the delegates at the next meeting,. How many are under 30 ? All our cb are concerned with is money. Charging into junior b early round championship games, Charging €10 into single fixtures, putting on 2 games in Breffni and charging more even though most people may not have interest in the other game, but have no choice but pay more. U21 is a closed shop at county level also. No open trials. Teams are based on previous minor teams. It's all about the money money money !!! €€€€€€€€€€€€€€ StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts: 374 - 01/08/2017 10:40:52 2027186 Link 0 |
Delegates are elected by clubs. CB is elected by clubs. Clubs NEED to change their attitude too. It's the clubs that form the CB except for one paid position. That position has caused all the problems in Cavan football this past 15 years Inaroundehouse (Cavan) - Posts: 975 - 01/08/2017 10:59:53 2027215 Link 0 |
Dagger1986 - Im saying the likes of ballymachugh or drumalee would not be a million miles of mullahorn, gowna, cootehill,etc.. There would be no massive 15+ point hammerings which there should be in the difference in the levels. There should be a serious step up. Im on about senior an junior here, there is not much between intermediate nd lower senior teams at all, and league basis shows that. The fact of the matter is we have too many clubs and thats not going to change now we just have to deal with. Algamations wll never work now every club has their proud tradition
lad09 (Cavan) - Posts: 239 - 01/08/2017 22:20:15 2027642 Link 0 |
And I'm saying Gowna or Cootehill would beat any junior team by 20 points. They're is a serious gulf in quality between Junior and Senior.
theDagger1986 (Cavan) - Posts: 181 - 02/08/2017 00:10:12 2027679 Link 0 |
I'm still amazed that you believe merging clubs will produce brilliant players. So if we can just get corlough and templeport to amalgamate then Cavan will dominate ulster again. Its been staring us in the face all this time!!! JamsieMac (Cavan) - Posts: 482 - 02/08/2017 01:57:55 2027691 Link 0 |
Belturbet were nearly relegated to Junior last year and are playing Division 1 football this year. You're over stating the gulf. There isn't much between the lower few Senior teams and top Junior teams.
FoolsGold (Cavan) - Posts: 2824 - 02/08/2017 11:44:57 2027789 Link 0 |
JamsieMac you're ignorance has no bounds. If you are going to show such lack of respect to clubs like Corlough and Templeport then it's not worth arguing with you. Amalgamating clubs will improve the standard of club football in Cavan - it will revive interest and competitiveness within the clubs who have so few numbers in recent years that it is inevitable that these clubs will fold sooner rather than later. What I am suggesting is instead of letting this happen we act first. If you go to club games and have an interest in any other club other than your own you will see this widespread problem across the county. There are very few clubs with a suffice number of substitutes. Ballymahugh had only 4 minor players this year. Castlerahan are playing 11 a side division 16... just two examples of problems at underage. The list of eye opening problems is right in front of our eyes and there are very solutions but one very obvious one is to amalgamate and address the problem before it escalates to a point of no return. The County Board are the county board - you say the clubs elect the CB and all this - well then maybe the powers within the clubs need to change. Did you have a vote in the county board election process? Or do you know who you're club even nominated? No you had no say and are afraid to ask as these are "executive" decisions with clubs these days. Go down to Corlough and Templeport and ask them how their clubs are doing at underage and how their numbers are at senior level....go to Maghera and ask them how they do it and do they think what they are doing is sustainable? You say about Drumalee or Killygarry folding as a club - they will but together will be able to compete for a senior medal - that I have no doubt. Their second team would also compete for an intermediate medal. Competitiveness breeds success. So I think we must give this a try for the future of clubs across the county.
countdown (Cavan) - Posts: 14 - 03/08/2017 10:39:43 2028291 Link 2 |