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17/05/2012 14:05:44
waynoI
County: Dublin
Posts: 5784

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I just want to make clear as a Liverpool fan that i believe the sacking of Kenny Dalglish is an absolute joke, Likewise the sacking of Roy Hodgson prior to him. What is happening in the footballing world nowadays , What ever happened to hiring a manager , letting him manage the side and giving him time? Same with McGleish at Villa , Clarke at Huddersfield, Megson at Sheffield Wednesday and Hughton at Newcastle. Its a joke....

IF FSG are to make amends for this and convince many Liverpool fans that sacking Kenny was the correct decision , They must go all out to bring in a world class proven manager first and formost , Then back that manager to the hills and back again.. And hope the new man can achieve regular and consistant success. Roberto Martinez is not that man and no disrespect to him, Should not even be considered as the next manager of this football club.

The way i see it is .. Dalglish (Again like Roy before him) SHOULD have been given more time. Granted 2011/2012 was a disappointment, A major disappointment in the sense We finished 8th in the league , behind our Merseyside rivals Everton, And most of Dalglish's buys had disappointing starts to their Anfield careers. And I admit my patience was tested throughout that campaign especially our inability to convert chances and win games that we should have won , But at the end of the day, Dalglish signed a long term contract and if given another year i am certain he would have got it right. As it is , The yanks have yet again made a rash decision in getting rid , And a new manager will come in now and want more new players and even more time setting us up for another year or so of transition. I just dont see the justification behind it.

Kenny Dalglish has been mocked from people here and on forums etc in the last 24 hours. Well if you are half the man Kenny Dalglish is then you would be one amazing individual. AS a supporter of the club and not a clown on the outside. What that man has done for the football club has being nothing short of phenomonal. He isn't known as the King for nothing. What he achieved as a player and manager (1st spell) will never be forgotten by this clubs loyal fans. What he did in the aftermath of the hillsborough disaster was incredible. As a Liverpool fan and Liverpool fans out there will agree. We can never ever glorify enough. He may have been sacked but it will never ever take away from what he has done for the club and the high regard the fans hold him in
17/05/2012 15:03:01
yew_tree
County: Mayo
Posts: 4517

1174464
waynoI - I agree on what most of what you said there. The cut and trust of moder day football was not for Kenny and in hindsight for his own sake it would have been better for him if he didnt come back at all.

I can see how he may may have come across in interviews, Mark Lawernson said last night that he would ring Kenny and say why are you so grumpy in that interview, Kenny replied "they were asking me stupid questions" - The sky nut job and media type reporters do ask some awful stupid questions in fairness.

The Suarez -affair was not handled well and Kenny even admitted that later. I agree with Graeme Taylor, I don't think the owners ever wanted Kenny as manager in the first place but fan pressure and a good run last year meant they had to give him the job.

Overall though as a Liverpool FC and football legend Kenny is right up there and as you say Wayno - a great person who owes nothing to the city of Liverpool. Some of the comments about him have also sickened me but will most of these keyboard warriors ever be remembered for what they achieved, answer is no.

YNWA
17/05/2012 19:13:05
browneshill
County: Carlow
Posts: 45

1174722
thats the hatrick now sacked at newcastle, sacked at celtic[or ran out of it more like] and now liverpool
17/05/2012 19:21:39
stringbean
County: Tyrone
Posts: 113

1174727
Yew tree and wayno1 i agree mostly with what your saying in that managers are not given enough time particularly for hodgson, however i feel kenny had been out of the game too long, however it should have been kenny's decision to leave, he has earned that for all he's given to the club.

I sed their to interview martinez, which certainly wouldn't be my choice, however whoever they appoint needs to be given at least 3 years to turn things an get the club playing the managers way.
18/05/2012 09:46:50
mon
County: Galway
Posts: 325

1174919
Wayno1- Kenny wasn't up to it tactically and the F.A. Cup Final proved that. Still playing 2 holding midfielders when they were 1-0 down and only changed it when they went 2-0 down which was to late. Kenny was Liverpool's greatest player and has done a massive amount of good for the club but sentiment shouldn't rule your head. 8th place isn't good enough for a club of Liverpool's size and stature. When Liverpool had a strong finish to last season the groundswell of support forced the owners hand and they had to make him their manager full time.

You have to say the owners don't mess around and they have alreay drawn up a shortlist and have started interviewing Martinez already. A new broom is needed at Anfield and the owners aren't afraid to make the hard decisions.

By the way Im a Villa fan and yes McLeish did deserve to go. He is one of the worst managers in Premier League history and definately the worst manager in Villa's history. He is the only manager I know who settles for a point at home and none away.
21/05/2012 19:52:12
TylerDurden
County: Mayo
Posts: 148

1177575
I know someone who can help. But I don't know where to find them. Some crack team of commandos who were imprisoned for a crime they didn't commit.

In all seriousness though Ian ayre was booed and heckled by a large crowd of lfc supporters at aintree, not happy with kenny getting the chop, but they told him exactly who they wanted to manage the team RAFA BENITEZ.

If they go against the fans the new manager will have less time than hodgson had to turn things around.
21/05/2012 20:09:56
TheMaster
County: Mayo
Posts: 7097

1177598
In all seriousness though Ian ayre was booed and heckled by a large crowd of lfc supporters at aintree, not happy with kenny getting the chop, but they told him exactly who they wanted to manage the team RAFA BENITEZ.

If they go against the fans the new manager will have less time than hodgson had to turn things around.



And then what, appoint king kenny again? They listened to the fans on the last 2 managers and that didnt work. The best thing they could do is stop listening to them, because they havent a clue. Rafa Benitez?! Are they well in the head? You see that is what is wrong with the club, the fans have too much to say about everything. I know its a cliche, but they are constantly whinging about something they should have no say in. Hicks and gillet didnt spend enough, hodgson isnt good enough, suarez is just misunderstood. Give it a rest. Hicks and gillet spent a fortune, hodgson is top class but ye were just too daft to see it and suarez admitted racially abusing evra. Any apologies? Any admittance of being in the wrong? No chance. As for dalglish, he should have been sacked immediately after the suarez incident. The only good thing they have done so far is removing him. I find it disgraceful that liverpool fans turn a blind eye to this, I would genuinely be ashamed of dalglish as manager if I was a liverpool fan.
21/05/2012 20:27:35
pplocal
County: Tyrone
Posts: 5695

1177623
Got to agree with TheMaster here with regards Rafa. For me he was fairly average and yet every single Liverpool fan I know would love to see him re-appointed. What is so great about him that the rest of us are missing?
21/05/2012 20:54:58
brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 7238

1177650
pplocal
County: Tyrone
Posts: 5125

1177623 Got to agree with TheMaster here with regards Rafa. For me he was fairly average and yet every single Liverpool fan I know would love to see him re-appointed. What is so great about him that the rest of us are missing?
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One Champions League, one FA Cup, one EPL runners up spot, one CL runners up spot, 2 more CL semi finals!

Oh and by the way, no, Rafa should not return to Anfield, that is not a progressive move by any stretch of the imagination.
22/05/2012 11:22:16
TheMaster
County: Mayo
Posts: 7097

1177870
One Champions League, one FA Cup, one EPL runners up spot, one CL runners up spot, 2 more CL semi finals!

But hand on a minute brend, lets look at these. How many of those champions league performances were down to already being out of the running for the EPL, where they could concentrate on the CL and FA cup? The CL win was very lucky, even the most ardent liverpool fan would say that, they deserved to lose the FA cup final. Dont forget they had to win the CL to get back into it! The EPL runner up spot was on to be a winners spot until his ego made him try to take on fergie in the media. Furthermore the amount of times steven gerrard single-handedly pulled liverpool out of the fire under his reign was staggering. The truth is benitez had a great opportunity at liverpool and he fluffed it. After winning the CL every player wanted to go to them. They had a real chance to overtake utd, but his crazy signings and rotation botched the job and left the club in the haypenny place. Imagine if they didnt have the pull for new investors that they had. Where would they be now? For my mind di matteo's latest exploits totally debunk rafa's 'genius management', and if you take that away all you have left is a guy who spent a fortune to build a good cup team and wasted a great opportunity.
22/05/2012 12:10:18
brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 7238

1177929
Oh I get it now, Chelsea ride their luck and frankly fluke a CL win with a multi million pound team whos whole purpose in life was to win that one trophy = Great management, fantastic team effort, RDM, what a guy.

Liverpool ride their luck, fluke a CL win with a make shift team greater than the sum of its parts = Rafa Benitez, what a chancer!

Lets also substitute Stephen Gerrard for Didier Drogba, and I think we are along the right lines.
22/05/2012 14:19:51
yew_tree
County: Mayo
Posts: 4517

1178096
pplocal
County: Tyrone
Posts: 5125

1177623
Got to agree with TheMaster here with regards Rafa. For me he was fairly average


I don't want Rafa back as its only going backwards and I think we need to move forward. It's our past that has been like a noose around the club for the past 20 years. BUT rafa is a good coach. It makes me laugh why people say he is not. He is not a great manager but coach, he is right up there with the best.
22/05/2012 14:28:17
TheMaster
County: Mayo
Posts: 7097

1178105
Brend, multimillion pound team ? 8 years ago maybe.

yewtree, he wasnt a coach at liverpool, he was a manager.
22/05/2012 15:46:11
brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 7238

1178164
TheMaster
County: Mayo
Posts: 4196

1178105
Brend, multimillion pound team ? 8 years ago maybe.

yewtree, he wasnt a coach at liverpool, he was a manager.
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One player alone accounting for £50 million, I'm no accountant admittedly but thats multimillion by anybodies definition of the word!
31/05/2012 21:50:18
b.mullins
County: Dublin
Posts: 1413

1184931
Press Conference at 10.00am tomorrow morning to unveil Rodgers as the new manager ,Swansea first-team coach Colin Pascoe, match-analyst Chris Davies and conditioning expert Glen Driscoll will move with Rodgers to Liverpool F.C

I personally wish him all the best and will back him, I hope for his own sake he gets off to a good start otherwise he is going to get lynched by the normal hacks in England and over here ,but It's a MASSIVE gamble imo
01/06/2012 13:01:43
yew_tree
County: Mayo
Posts: 4517

1185165
Welcome to LFC Brendan. Lets hope he can take us to where we want to go. We need to give him time. I reckon the top 4 is still out of reach in his first year but you never know.
01/06/2012 19:00:14
b.mullins
County: Dublin
Posts: 1413

1185439
Welcome Brendan ,he was not the man I wanted as manager and I wanted Kenny to be given another year but let's get behind him and hopefully he can at least get us back into the ch lg but I agree with yew tree there is too much work to be done to do it in the first year YNWA
02/06/2012 10:58:12
DUB1
County: Dublin
Posts: 5025

1185579
Never knew brendan rogers was an antrim man...
02/06/2012 14:27:42
DUB1
County: Dublin
Posts: 5025

1185682
An english man a Scots man and now an Irish man as manager, is this a joke :-)
05/06/2012 15:05:11
DUB1
County: Dublin
Posts: 5025

1187370
Kuyt leaves liverpool...

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