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Westmeath Football thread - 5 Like(s)
An all time rant from Frank Mescall last night on the house draw live stream.
Blame put on clubs for not selling tickets and individuals for not buying them.
Accusing people of having a "million excuses of what we are doing wrong". Perhaps they could have listened to the people and taken feedback on why the tickets weren't selling.
He says they will get the buy in from the clubs "by hook or by crook". Some way of talking about all of the volunteers from the clubs around the county, everyone is trying to keep their own club afloat.
Reckons for once that we have "surpassed the Rossies" in regards to the amount raised (they raised 300k from most recent draw). There was surely an opportunity to get some advice from our Shannonside neighbours as they have great expertise in running these sorts of events.
It's not difficult to imagine why people were slow to drop 100 euro per ticket for this draw. There is a cost of living crisis not to mention a housing crisis. A house in Ireland would have been a better prize IMO, and there could have been more prizes on offer if you're asking people to give up that sum of money.
I appreciate that it is all volunteers who were running the draw, but the whole situation, including absolving themselves of blame and putting it all on the clubs, seems amateurishly done.
iarmhi_an_mhaith (National) - 01/07/2025 15:09:20
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Everybody Wrote Us Off! - 5 Like(s)
Is there a more tired, cliched GAA jargon saying?
I'm not in the know enough but I doubt anybody wrote Kerry off in an All-Ireland Quarter Final.
Limerick hurlers have often gone on with this rubbish as well.
Who have been written off? Dublin hurlers v Limerick. Longford or Carlow or whoever v Dublin in first round of Leinster Football Championship.
Its such absolute nonsense and is farcical hearing managers and players peddling this at this stage.
StoreysTash (National) - 01/07/2025 12:24:19
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Galway Football thread - 5 Like(s)
With four Connacht titles in a row and two All-Ireland appearances, he's definitely earned another year if he wants it. That said, I do feel some adjustments are needed. With Scan, Morris, Ó Domhnaill, Graham, and Div all involved it feels like there are too many voices, so where does everyone fit? In game on the sideline it seems like Scan is the one in his ear and maybe Divilly at the end of the AirPod!
Worth noting Joyce along with the management and squad have reignited a real sense of pride and positivity around Galway football. The bond between players and supporters is stronger than it's been since early 00's, evident again with the strong maroon support in Croke Park on Sunday.
ahsure. (National) - 01/07/2025 11:39:38
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Monaghan GAA thread - 4 Like(s)
Replying To seanie08: "Mccarville was fine until donegal goal went in then the sky caved in on him like a lot of other monaghan players. Don't see kearns or Gallagher back for different reasons but huge if even one returned. Am still at a loss at why mcphilips was basically just ignored after a decent 40 mins v donegal in ulster. Lavelle of 23 fitness levels was needed on Saturday in defence to mark Murphy who seemed to bully a lot of monaghan players. He may find his match in the semi final with meaths full back but thats another debate. Gary Mohan is a proper presence for us but he didnt look fully fit this year. Not sure what bannigans plans are for the panel next year but youd hope there was a way back for jones in the forwards. Too good of a talent for a county like ours to ignore and jack wont be around forever. This year will do likes of kelly and Carey world of good. A lot to be proud of after a year of transition.." McCarville was found out, unfortunately he's not at the level required, he's there because Scotstown are winning championships on the backs of the Hughes brothers industry and it was an insult to Darren that he was looking out at that on Saturday. McPhillips is the same story, won't ever be at the level and got roasted against down in the league - but is at the right club so he gets a far better look in than a lad from the likes of toome, Seans, etc.
Gary Mohan was carrying way too much timber and when you see him lined up beside Langan you see what players that truely apply themselves look like. He tried hard but his conditioning let him down and he was cramping with 10 minutes to go after having a 2 week break while a 40 year old Murphy was floating about not a bother on him. O'Toole had to be taken out of corner back previously as he was hopeless in there but on the big day Bannigan puts him on their fastest forward? Ciaran McNulty was dropped for poor performances too and again, come crunch time he was thrown in there and got shown up badly.
There's more talent in the county than is on the panel but the management team brought very few fresh faces into the regular starting lineups this year - 3/4 brought in when we need maybe 8/12 just isn't good enough. The players that did get brought in all played in county finals over the last 2-3 years which is fair enough, but does anyone scout the league games where there might be an unheralded player that could do a job? Doesn't look like it.
Our defence has been really poor for a few years and yet each manager that comes in does very little to change it, they just shift a few of the usual characters around hoping for something to change. Young Boyle from Truagh was Jordanstowns full back which won a sigerson cup but he didn't get a look in. Instead our great manager has decided to use the half forward line to try protect our poor full back line.. look at who the three closest men to the Donegal goal was on Saturday and you'll see why we fell apart in the last 25 minutes - our main men were out on their feet trying to get scores and get goals at the same time. The most embarrassing moment as evidence of all this was when we needed a score in the 2nd half we shifted the ball back and forth until we were turned over and Donegal played a long ball into McBrearty - who was being marked by O'Hanlon, our best game breaker. He lost his life at the defence who abandoned ship going forward to make themselves hero's when there was a break in play and he was dead right.
That 2nd half has been coming all year - the championship/league format means teams don't have to be at 100% until near July, which is why Monaghan escape proper punishment for most of the year - but when teams need to they will pour it on us.
Jjoniel79 (National) - 01/07/2025 10:24:53
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Galway Football thread - 4 Like(s)
Replying To Kew: "Why are people on about mcgeeney? Did he have a great bunch of players early on? It's completely different why didn't Roscommon keep Davy burke for 10 years?" You must be a gosoon because Galway were not up to much before Joyce. One semi final appearance since ye won in 2001, Mayo lording over Connacht, getting knocked out by the likes of Antrim and Tipp and wasting a number of good underage teams. Granted there was some improvement under Walsh. Burke was no improvement on Cunningham in the end, Anthony managed at least a Connacht title so there is no comparison with us. The question is has the team progressed under the manager and you'd have to say Galway have. Joyce has ye cemented as the best in Connacht, 4 in row with that and 2 All Irleand final appearances from a team that could manage one semi in twenty years. All the while one of his best players has been cursed with injury and his other top player not far behind in the injury stakes. McGeeney had planty of talent Jamie Clarke, Forker, Murnin, Grugan, McKeever, Campbell, Grimley.
FullOfPorter (National) - 01/07/2025 10:35:16
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Galway Football thread - 3 Like(s)
Replying To Eire89: "Walsh is not in same planet as Clifford and to be fair no one is in my opinion. I also have O Shea & Con ahead of Walsh. Bar the 22 final v Kerry has he delivered for us on the biggest stage I dont think so. There is no doubting his talent and I would love to know was he 100% himself after the Down game the shoulder knock as to be fair he looked primed to explode after his performance against Armagh & Down. If PJ goes which I feel he may who is in line? Surely it will be within county but no standout options in my view? We have struggeld at underage level the last 5 years. Our u20s failed to win one match this year. I feel it is imperative we get it right as window is closing on this team who I still feel can deliver but has to be in nest year or 2. Also as pointed out can we get a specialist plan for Damo to have him right for All ireland series in 2026." Walsh gets far too much stick, he's been very consistent since Joyce took over. He was clearly injured for last years final as was Comer & Kelly. Despite Walsh carrying an injury he still scored 5 points against Meath, he wasn't the reason Galway didn't win.
How did Sean O'Shea do in his last 2 finals in 22 and 23? He was average enough in both games, he was outstanding last Sunday but I don't recall him hitting that level before, he's had plenty more average games then Walsh has in recent years.
There was an article on Clifford before Sundays game that he'd scored 10 points from his last 30 shots in Croke Park, imagine if that was Walsh. He'd be getting hammered in the media but Clifford can't do any wrong and Walsh has become an easy target and disappointing too see so many Galway people put the boot into him.
The same goes for Gleeson, if he'd put in Ethan Rafferty's performance of losing 10 kickouts in a row he'd be hammered but Rafferty hasn't.
Walsh and Gleeson are easy targets.
TheBishop (National) - 01/07/2025 13:47:49
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Kerry GAA Thread - 3 Like(s)
Replying To kerry4sam25: "No Donegal are favourites. We'll be underdogs in final." Tyrone will be favourite's to beat Meath in the final
royler (National) - 01/07/2025 10:06:07
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Galway Football thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Pope_Benedict: "I totally agree with that. We've a poster on here justifying Galway's cagey first half approach play, on the basis that conditions weren't up to scratch. The same poster didn't explain why Sean O'Shea fancied the same posts and conditions to the tune of 8 points before HT. We've a player like Tierney who can win and contest high balls in central offensive positions, but we don't hit any high balls into central offensive positions unless they're mishits for points, and more than one of those has wound up in the opposition net this season. In terms of poor offensive openings this season, you could certainly add the Connacht Final too. 20 mins into that, we'd recorded 0-6 from three Paul Conroy 2 pointers, and the rest of the Galway forward line had recorded precisely nothing on the scoreboard playing with a gale. It seems like Galway football has been dancing to PJs tune for about 25 years now." I can't remember too many times this year that Tierney has had a shot from distance either, we all know he's capable but looks to be told not too. Agree its baffling he's not used more at full forward, penalty aside against Armagh he's so assured when he has a goal chance.
Walsh against Down was looking for the the kick pass in but its clear he was hampered on Sunday and wasn't looking for it as much, might have made far more sense in that first half to move Tierney into Walsh's position.
Galway didn't have any sort of cohesion all summer, played in fits and starts but not sure where the blame lies on Sunday. They were of it in every aspect of the game, Meath shaded kickouts, turnovers & shot percentage. Galway were 50% from play which is abysmal.
TheBishop (National) - 01/07/2025 14:30:54
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Kerry GAA Thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To kerry4sam25: "Well done Jack. Will silence the doubters now." Well done Jack..? Are you for real..? All he has done is pile pressure onto himself and the team… He should have waited until he had Sam Maguire sitting beside him before he went shouting his mouth off…!! It was only a QF… Kerry have nothing won yet…
ForeverBlue2 (National) - 01/07/2025 07:06:00
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Donegal GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Al_Maguire: "Some demand for tickets already.
I logged into at 2pm and was 10500 in the queue. Waited 20 mins and most sections in upper Cusack almost gone." I doubt it. Ticketmaster and the way they sell tickets is a joke.
No lower cusack or hogan go on sale initially and they try to scare you into the corners with demand.
Everytime I've used my phone too to check map, it doesn't work so cannot see what's there or not there.
Horrible experience. Thank god the GAA didn't let them add on their nonsense fees like they do for concerts. They have a near monopoly at this stage. I'm sure they make Croke Park and GAA use it now otherwise they won't get the big concerts.
shaggykev (National) - 01/07/2025 16:09:04
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Donegal GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Donegal-lad27: "Already buzzing for this game and its not even game week yet. No disrespect meant to meath they have played some fantastic stuff this year but if we were given this draw at the start of the year everyone would of taken your hand off
Jim and the team will do everything in their power to make it to the final and us supporters must do our bit too crucial we bring a massive support next Sunday as meath certainly will everyone make sure to have a jersey/hat/flag etc with you and let's turn croke park into the hills of Donegal for the day" Too many postings about no disrespect to Meath but…..
That in itself is disrespectful. If we were playing Galway you wouldn't see this nonsense. Meath are here on merit. Any team that beats Dublin, Kerry and Galway in the one season deserves the height of respect. We will have to be at our best to get past them.
The return of McGonagle is now essential to our ambitions. If himself and Jason can be added to the mix for a half it gives us an extra dimension. It also reduces the pressure on our kick outs. We are in a good place but we were also in a good place this time last year. Jim will ensure that the squad have learnt from their experience last year and there certainly won't be any of the complacency we are seeing from some posters.
themaddog (National) - 01/07/2025 11:39:57
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Roscommon GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To hontherossie: "A prime example of this was the difference between our u17s v tyrone in term of s+c. at that level they are already ahead of us. how do we expect these players to be ready for county football. Have these players access to s+c / dieticians and is progress being monitored or players just doing their own things." That's it the northern teams are have serious s@c programs in place for u15 development panels. Like all you have to do is watch back our minor game this year. I was in cavan for it and watched it back and the difference was staggering. That's not Shane Moran's fault. This has to start before minor and continued all the way through to senior. Other counties brought some u20s straight into panel but I don't think we could do the same because they are so far away from that level physically. Hopefully something that will be looked into by roscommon because I'm sure others are looking into what the likes of Tyrone are doing and trying to implement it in their own counties. We are producing the talent but that won't be enough unfortunately
dave1988 (National) - 01/07/2025 14:18:12
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Galway Football thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To togoutlads: "Our very talented roster of forwards, both starters and bench, don't know how to cohesively attack on a consistent basis. That's down to management. They're not a well oiled, well drilled unit. That's down to management. If they were, I think they'd shoot the lights out but instead they're told to start steadily, hold possession, recycle, play across the arc repeatedly. That's down to management. I've said it consistently last year that Scan as a forwards coach is simply not up to par. He's nowhere near it. I said repeatedly that we need a first class forwards coach otherwise our AI ambitions were no more than a pipe dream. But PJ and himself are thick as thieves back to Jarlath's days and nothing can prize them apart it seems! These forwards, the odd time they took it on themselves to have a real cut in order to save games, showed what they're capable of in short bursts - but PJ and Scan hobbled them, the Final last year and this year's first half against Meath being prime example of incredibly poor advise to and coaching of forwards. We couldn't have played into the oppositions hands more. Not smart enough to win All Irelands, Connacht is this management's ceiling. Of course those Connacht titles were a joy to win but this group of players were capable of more. 6 years is too long. Thank you but really time to make way." I totally agree with that. We've a poster on here justifying Galway's cagey first half approach play, on the basis that conditions weren't up to scratch. The same poster didn't explain why Sean O'Shea fancied the same posts and conditions to the tune of 8 points before HT. We've a player like Tierney who can win and contest high balls in central offensive positions, but we don't hit any high balls into central offensive positions unless they're mishits for points, and more than one of those has wound up in the opposition net this season. In terms of poor offensive openings this season, you could certainly add the Connacht Final too. 20 mins into that, we'd recorded 0-6 from three Paul Conroy 2 pointers, and the rest of the Galway forward line had recorded precisely nothing on the scoreboard playing with a gale. It seems like Galway football has been dancing to PJs tune for about 25 years now.
Pope_Benedict (National) - 01/07/2025 11:23:18
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Galway Football thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Kickitout: "Walsh in his prime was equally as good as Clifford big difference is Clifford never had 2 track back the field carry ball score Walsh kept galwa in division 1 this year Kerry gave Clifford a rest for lots matches I've watched galwar fir many years and watching Shane Walsh in his prime was an joy I know he prob coming to end of his career hopefully he comes back again he is sort player that young kids aspire to be never gets booked plays with skill" to make it clear, walsh was never as good as clifford. that one final performance perhaps but there's no comparison and unfair on walsh.
cavan.galway (National) - 01/07/2025 10:09:04
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Kerry GAA Thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To kerry4sam25: "No Donegal are favourites. We'll be underdogs in final." Your not in the Final yet… nor is Donegal..
ForeverBlue2 (National) - 01/07/2025 09:57:37
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Roscommon GAA thread - 2 Like(s)
Replying To The_analyser: "He was born in Mayo and if one was to class where they are born then very few rossies at all as no maternity ward in this county.
You are also missing a E on his name. Late great Dermot Earley was educated in, lived in and kicked his first football in Roscommon so you don't get any more Roscommon than that." My reply was tongue in cheek…a bit of fun in response to suggestions Andy is a Roscommon man when it comes to GAA..which he certainly is not. As I always say if you can't take it don't give it.
yew_tree (National) - 01/07/2025 21:34:12
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Galway Football thread - 2 Like(s)
I have watched most of rte series Hell for Leather, it's historic account on the development of Gaelic football over the years. As a prior Galway man I think it's affront to the history of Gaelic football in Connacht and Galway particularly. I'm amazed that so far no mention whatsoever is made of the great 3 in row mighty Gaelic football team. Most informed analysts rate this team in the top four best teams of all time. How could any historical analysis of Gaelic football be complete without giving this great team a deserved recognition. This
is deliberate snub to Galway football and Connacht
football.It has to be acknowledged that Connacht is a small province with only 5 counties. It has to be acknowledged also that Galway are third in all-Ireland roll of honour. Galway have brought Sam across the Shannon 6 times in the last 69 years more than any other county except for Dublin and Kerry. This biased rte programme should be shuned by all Connacht people. More than eighty people were interviewed and archive footage used. Why couldn't my idol, Matty MC Donagh, a man with 4 All Ireland medals who left a legacy in the written word and plenty archive footage in Irish and English be aired. This to hell for Connacht and not Hell for Leather. The woes of Mayo were aired in degrading fashion a proud county who the only county who could challenge Dublin the best of all time. How analysts worth their salt totally and deliberately ignore Sean Purcell the best of them all and the most modest. Would an equivalent hurling series omit Christy Ring. Kevin Heffernan said on the Irish rte programme Cúrsaí that he was the best, Micheál Ó Muireachtaigh said the same amongst the most knowledgeable.
Padraiciarchonnacht (National) - 01/07/2025 21:43:02
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Everybody Wrote Us Off! - 1 Like(s)
Replying To BarneyGrant: "They never think anyone will beat them! Don't be even slightly taken it. Mind you, they are right more often than not.
They have developed a bit of a whingy aspect over last while which is unbecoming.
Only team that has been written off really is Meath and them boys are just getting on with things rather than looking for sympathy. Which is why they have been missed. No nonsense from our best neighbours." Ah Barney you re getting soft with the neighbours.Good they back but dont want them too strong.Hope they beat the Donegal whingers alright.
brayballer (National) - 01/07/2025 17:47:57
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Everybody Wrote Us Off! - 1 Like(s)
It's the oldest sports psychological trick in the book. Manager/player perceives some slight against them (real or imagined) and uses it to eke out a few more percentages.
If you've ever watched Michael Jordan's Last Dance on Netlfix, it's probably the best illustration of this.
Lockjaw (National) - 01/07/2025 15:32:10
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Roscommon GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To yew_tree: "And the great Dermot Early was a Mayo man…." Two of Roscommon's greats of the 70s and first half of the 80s were born in Co. Mayo. Dermot Early and Pat Lindsay. I think both retired on the same day also, being the Connacht Final defeat to Mayo in 1985.
endgame (National) - 01/07/2025 16:40:29
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