Round 1 - June 30th, that's when our senior team are back in action. On Sunday's showing every team will be hoping to get us in the draw but we are better than that showing & the players owe it to themselves & county to restore some pride.

Household changes must be made at least 4 of U-21s must start hopefully Donal Ward,Finneran are fit & O'Gara,Collins deserve a place on the team.

1)Claffey
(2)S.McDermott, (3)P.Domican, (4) N.Carty
5)D.Ward/Collins (6)N.Daly, (7)I.Kilbride
(8) M.Finneran, (9)C.Shine
(10)D O Gara, 10 D.Shine (12)C.Cregg
(13)D.Smith, (14) S.Kilbride, (15)C.Compton

Out Dineen,Purcell,Mannion,D.McDermott,Keenan,Rogers

Having watched the lack of effort & poor attitude of the Roscommon players on Sunday you could nearly write off this year. New players added to the team might bring passion,desire but it's unlikely 10,000 will travel to see them again this year.

Round 1 - June 30th, that's when our senior team are back in action. On Sunday's showing every team will be hoping to get us in the draw but we are better than that showing & the players owe it to themselves & county to restore some pride.

Household changes must be made at least 4 of U-21s must start hopefully Donal Ward,Finneran are fit & O'Gara,Collins deserve a place on the team.

1)Claffey
(2)S.McDermott, (3)P.Domican, (4) N.Carty
5)D.Ward/Collins (6)N.Daly, (7)I.Kilbride
(8) M.Finneran, (9)C.Shine
(10)D O Gara, 10 D.Shine (12)C.Cregg
(13)D.Smith, (14) S.Kilbride, (15)C.Compton

Out Dineen,Purcell,Mannion,D.McDermott,Keenan,Rogers


A lot would depend on who we get drawn against. If we persist with that zone defending without putting pressure on the man in possession, then we can forget about it- there'd only be about 4 teams in the country that we could beat realistically. If we actually take the game to the opposition, leaving 5 forwards up and move the ball quickly forward then we could definitely take the majority of the teams likely to end up in the pot for round one.
I'd agree with most of your line-up here, but one or two quibbles. Domican's size at fullback could be an issue, but it's a problem area for us anyway, so there's no ideal ready-made solution. I'd definitely think Cregg's better off out on the wing, and injuries allowing, that would work at midfield. I'd be thinking Karol Mannion would be hard done by to be dropped; collectively the Galway half backline, midfield and halfforward lines were on top the last day, so I reckon Mannion was as good as we had in that sector, despite a couple of slack passes and ball breaking away from him. I think I'd like to have him at centre or full forward; my dilemma would be that I think O Gara longterm would make an outstanding centre forward. Mannion would provide experience and leadership, but then again there's the case for bringing that on later in a game to steady the ship. Would starting both Compton and Smith be a bit risky? They're both outstanding talents, but would Smith especially be a bit light?
Picking a first 15 is only part of the job; dealing with what if's regarding playing poorly, injuries, yellow/ red cards also has to be considered, and the loss of Finneran the last day wasn't dealt with efficiently the last day and caused massive disruption. What would you think would be plan B, especially if there was trouble in the fullback/ midfield lines?
Also, what's the story with Devanney? Is he injured or available?

Collins is a another option at full back or maybe try Carty again as his fitness should be better in 6 weeks. Mannion could be used as impact sub as i don't expect C Shine lasting a full 70 mins after been out for most of the year. Devanney was on the bench it's rumoured he's away for the summer now Kevin Higgins is another that can score but he's a not midfielder.

I don't think Donal Smith would be too light remember he came up against very strong Dublin team in U21 final & played well. he's natural scorer & deserve a chance to impress in the next game.

Round 1 - June 30th, that's when our senior team are back in action. On Sunday's showing every team will be hoping to get us in the draw but we are better than that showing & the players owe it to themselves & county to restore some pride.

Household changes must be made at least 4 of U-21s must start hopefully Donal Ward,Finneran are fit & O'Gara,Collins deserve a place on the team.

1)Claffey
(2)S.McDermott, (3)P.Domican, (4) N.Carty
5)D.Ward/Collins (6)N.Daly, (7)I.Kilbride
(8) M.Finneran, (9)C.Shine
(10)D O Gara, 10 D.Shine (12)C.Cregg
(13)D.Smith, (14) S.Kilbride, (15)C.Compton

Out Dineen,Purcell,Mannion,D.McDermott,Keenan,Rogers

First off its "wholesale" changes not "household". Cregg was outstanding tha last day so why would you change him? Carty did show some signs of promise i.e. a couple of blocks. A few club games will bring him on a ton id leave him there. Daly at 6???? Hes far too small at the minute for such a pivotal position. Id play Kevin Higgins in Midfield ahead of Shine I think playing Donie at CF is a good move but I would not bring in both Smith and Compton id bring in one or the other and play O Gara though his long term position in my opinion is Centre Forward.

Sound for that, cheers. It'll be a tricky balancing act to get the blend right, and it shows how heavily dependent we are on a few individuals for certain postions as there are very few other options. I just hope they'll take the game to whoever it is, it would be very hard to stomach a repeat performance. Personally, I think the system was entirely wrong the other day, with players either unsure of what they were expected to do, or else they didn't trust it themselves, which would go a long way towards making an easy distinction by saying 'Galway were hungrier' or that the attitude/ effort was wrong with Roscommon. Get through the next round, and maybe take out a more fancied team in round 2, and see what happens after that would be the least we could hope for this year; anything else would be bonus territory. An early end to the season, as in gone by July, would be a disaster. Here's hoping!!!

Thanks for correction Rosfan however i seen it already but Hoganstand doesn't allow me to edit a typo.

With Cregg's pace he should be on wing IMO we need a taller player in CHF that can win more breaks from midfield. I said that more or less about Carty already. Daly is taller than Domo & he could swap places with Ian Kilbride if needed. Kevin Higgins is not a midfielder that was seen in many leagues it's either the forward line or bench for him.

Main thing that's affecting Roscommon at the moment is not who should play where.. they need to play with a hunger and desire because against Galway it looked like they didn't want too be there at all which I didn't think would be a problem at this level but it clearly is ....

A lot of soul searching has to be done before the 30th of June. The tactics or lack of was ridiculous vs Galway. To sit back allow a team to come onto to us by marking space instead of the man was one of the stupidest things I've ever seen in all my years watching football.

Anyways in the past now you learn from your mistakes. When we lost to Mayo in 09 we made 7 changes to the team so i expect the same to happen here hopefully we get a decent draw to get us back to winning ways.

"Carty did show some signs of promise i.e. a couple of blocks. A few club games will bring him on a ton id leave him there."
He was destroyed by Conroy. It's unlikely Carty will ever play in full back again.

"I would not bring in both Smith and Compton id bring in one or the other"
One is 19 the other 20 both can score & create chances. improvement on Rogers,Keenan don't you think?

How long of a term did the county Board give Des Newton.?They appointed him quite quickly after Fergal o'Donnell stepped down.
I also wonder is Seamus O'Neill currently involved with the Roscommon panel.He's a player with much more to offer and we really struggled at midfield on sunday after Michael Finneran went off injured.

Term is 2 years. O'Neill was brought back last year but wasn't up to county standard anymore.

"Carty did show some signs of promise i.e. a couple of blocks. A few club games will bring him on a ton id leave him there."
He was destroyed by Conroy. It's unlikely Carty will ever play in full back again.

"I would not bring in both Smith and Compton id bring in one or the other"
One is 19 the other 20 both can score & create chances. improvement on Rogers,Keenan don't you think?

Carty played there last year and had a good season there. He didnt play league and I'm not saying he wasn't destroyed he was But that was due to this zonal marking which left a man without any league football exposed against a player of conroys calibre. It was not his fault, he did put in a few tackles and a few more games will help. Why would you bring in 2 u21 players? We need experience not newer players. Yes they got to a final but senior is completely different. People seem to think it is an easy transition. Fact is the senior players have years of conditioning and experience. Younger payers need to be exposed gradually. We are One of the youngest teams in the country. I'd bring in smith and use him as a sub. He's too light at the moment to start but needs a taste I think.

Fair enough Rosfan but it's will be on managements mind that Carty was at fault & they can fix things by moving him to the wing. I see that type of thing with every county. This is the qualifiers now you may as well go for broke & starting Compton,Smith would give them valuable championship experience.

When is the draw for the 1st round of Qualifers? Are we possibly facing Tipperary or Wicklow?

17th June. In the draw at the moment Westmeath,Laois,Cavan,Waterford,Antrim,Wicklow,Tipperary.

Tipp or Wicklow would love to get the rossies, Rossies could beat waterford if they got a home draw

If we improve and play to our ability with the right tactics, we can trouble anyone. I wouldn't fancy a div 1 side like laois or the losers of Derry v Donegal or Tyrone v Armagh but we could give most div 2, and any 3 & 4 teams a game.

28/05/2012 16:46:58
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Tipp or Wicklow would love to get the rossies,

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Why is that? Tipp have lost their best forward,midfielder to emigration & Kerry in 1st gear beat them in pulling up yesterday. Wicklow have lost their best forward Glynn to injury & lost to average Meath team yesterday.

If Roscommon find the form that gave Mayo,Tyrone a game last year i would expect them to beat most of those teams in round 1.

did anyone else hear that members have left the panel