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Carrick Emmets

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Just what is the story with this club? A population of around 4000 (nearly 8% of the county total) to pick from and no senior championship since 1919. Not even in contention for over a century. They have produced some excellent players over the years (Jinxie, Declan Smyth, John Conlon, Any Callan, Eugene O'Hanlon to name a few) but never seem to present a unified front. Does any team fear travelling to play Carrick? It seems visiting teams now have the bulk of support at their home games. One of their clubmen recently described them as a small club in a big town, and dying on its feet. When they won an Intermediate double some years ago, the apathy afterwards spoke volumes. It would be flattery to call them a sleeping giant at this stage- any thoughts?

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 671 - 10/09/2013 16:58:07    1479391

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some great points in here but when you talk about the pick they have it is not a easy at that for a town club. Although they may have a larger population the amount of players a town team lose comparing to country teams to soccer and other things is clearly obvious not to mention players moving from town teams to the country clubs. I saw them in the championship and the team are just not up to the standard but they also have lost mark downey sean downey andy callan and gary mc eneaney to name but a few players who were all well fit to tog out for a the county senior team in their day. Its just a case of building for the future for the club now with a few good underage teams who may step up to the mark.

mongaa95 (Monaghan) - Posts: 31 - 10/09/2013 18:13:21    1479479

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On top of what has been mentioned above, Town clubs aren't as good at holding on to players and they seem to melt away into the crowd. The pattern more so seems to be college and stay away for work as there is little or no jobs for what they studied for. This seems to affect towns a wee bit more.

drumlinbelt (Monaghan) - Posts: 179 - 10/09/2013 18:28:47    1479491

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Well Carrick have always been a bit of an enigma. For years they played division 1 football at underage even the weakest of team played in Division 1. In the last ten years Carrick have predominately operated at a lower level. A lot of players have been driven out of the club or not felt welcome in Emmet Park. Take for instance Gavin Flanagan who had a run with the county a few years ago. He struggled to get a run out as a sub on underage teams. He left Carrick and blossomed. Sometimes Carrick's politics have stunted the growth of the club for many years a name was more powerful than ability. This has been to the detriment of the club. It seems that the same dynasties have held the power in the club for a long time. The new guard in the town or the new bank man was often cared for more than the local. The number of past underage players who would take great delight in there current situation. Current player John G Conlon played in the 99 Final against Castleblayney for years he should have been playing for the emmets but wasn't considered good enough but now 14 years later he is playing. Politics cost this man his place for years. Togetherness was never a Particular thing in the Club with clicks in the dressing room...

toothandnail (Monaghan) - Posts: 2 - 10/09/2013 18:52:19    1479509

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Stefan White, take a bow

totalftballer (Monaghan) - Posts: 115 - 10/09/2013 18:55:51    1479510

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Don't blame Stefan White carrick's problems stems decades. The people that go to Carrick games are names that have always been in the club the cronies. Players let the Carrick club because they knew they would never get a game in the team. If the face fits in Carrick then your set for life. For someone to mention the key players who are not playing at the moment only Mark Downey was county quality. Nobody in the club wanted the bad teams. but by got was there rows and fights over people wanting to manage the good teams.

toothandnail (Monaghan) - Posts: 2 - 10/09/2013 20:40:48    1479565

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Didn't the management decide a few years ago that the Junior B players weren't allowed to train with the senior players? I think this happened just after the Owen Ward Cup win. Their pick was poor enough before this but this really divided the club and showed that management had their heads up their backsides. I played on a lot of very poor Ballybay teams but we never feared Carrick so there's been something endemically wrong for a long time.

The Face (Monaghan) - Posts: 890 - 10/09/2013 21:56:15    1479632

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The players and the committee that championed stefan white have

alot 2 answer for.

totalftballer (Monaghan) - Posts: 115 - 11/09/2013 18:24:09    1480278

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On top of what has been mentioned above, Town clubs aren't as good at holding on to players and they seem to melt away into the crowd. The pattern more so seems to be college and stay away for work as there is little or no jobs for what they studied for. This seems to affect towns a wee bit more.

I don't really buy the whole town team thing- it's sometimes a convenient excuse when organisation is poor. 9 miles down the road from Carrick, Blayney have 36(?) senior titles to their credit- not that different in size to Carrick. To the south, Mary's Ardee are always competitive while across the way Kingscourt have a record to be proud of. There are plenty of examples of dominant town teams around the country, like Navan O'Mahoneys, Sarsfields in Newbridge, Portlaoise, Dr Crokes and Stacks in Killarney/Tralee, Cavan Gaels and Eunans etc. Judging by some comments from former opponents here, Carrick have a lot more to sort out than simple geography.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 671 - 11/09/2013 21:40:23    1480427

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Surely you shouldnt fear playing any team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sbbbbbbb (Monaghan) - Posts: 2 - 12/09/2013 19:53:54    1481082

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