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Replying To Soma: "Ryle Nugent has made it fairly clear that a deal has been done and RTE only get to show the Autumn Internationals if they also show live the U20 games from the 6nations. A similar deal is in place to explain why the women's games are shown. It has nothing to do with public interest despite what some on here would make you believe as there isn't really any, it was a deal done by the IRFU to ensure maximum exposure for the sport." soma Ryle Nugent has made it fairly clear that a deal has been done and RTE only get to show the Autumn Internationals if they also show live the U20 games from the 6nations. yep he said same via twitter yesterday A similar deal is in place to explain why the women's games are shown. -most probably is It has nothing to do with public interest despite what some on here would make you believe as there isn't really any, it was a deal done by the IRFU to ensure maximum exposure for the sport. he also mentions in his twitter the average viewing was 160k #assuming this was inpependently vouched etc -which to me anyway would suggest there is a public interest i note a thread about the NHL so far has only attracted 18 replies - seems theres more interest in bashing rugby than hurling on this site!! fair dues the irfu for insisting under 20s and womens game shown -maybe the gaa should look at same re getting more camogie on the box. i did suggest same previously on this thread but nobody replied,but then again this thread is all about anti rugby anti rugby anti rugby nobody gives a damn here about hurling or camogie!!!!!! janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 10/02/2017 23:14:57 1954564 Link
Replying To bad.monkey: "Rugby in Dublin is dominated by the fee paying schools no doubt but isnt it up to the other schools to offer it as an option if kids want it? Not much equipment needed. All the big rugby schools now have GAA - a couple of the current Dublin team are ex Blackrock College. The more sports the better for kids. Rugby is good in that it was specifically designed for an average class of school boys - big short lads front row, tall gangly ones second row, biggest back row, small quick lads scrum half and wingers, most athletic at 10 12 13 15. This thread is nonsense. Kids are not playing enough sport as it is. Any should be encouaged. And GAA doesnt suit everyone" parts of this thread are nonsense but there is plenty of good points/information....rugby is not really for all shapes and sizes anymore..need to be big into the gym now realistically...agree that sport is good for all no matter what it is..only issue i have is with the preferential coverage alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 10/02/2017 23:58:21 1954576 Link
Replying To janesboro: "soma Ryle Nugent has made it fairly clear that a deal has been done and RTE only get to show the Autumn Internationals if they also show live the U20 games from the 6nations. yep he said same via twitter yesterday A similar deal is in place to explain why the women's games are shown. -most probably is It has nothing to do with public interest despite what some on here would make you believe as there isn't really any, it was a deal done by the IRFU to ensure maximum exposure for the sport. he also mentions in his twitter the average viewing was 160k #assuming this was inpependently vouched etc -which to me anyway would suggest there is a public interest i note a thread about the NHL so far has only attracted 18 replies - seems theres more interest in bashing rugby than hurling on this site!! fair dues the irfu for insisting under 20s and womens game shown -maybe the gaa should look at same re getting more camogie on the box. i did suggest same previously on this thread but nobody replied,but then again this thread is all about anti rugby anti rugby anti rugby nobody gives a damn here about hurling or camogie!!!!!!" Don't know why you are suggesting there is rugby bashing in my post Janesboro, just explaining why these games are shown. A couple of posters have previously claimed that RTE would only show them if there was huge public interest but Nugent has confirmed this was not the case, they are shown as part of a deal between the IRFU and RTE to get maximum exposure for the sport. I am certain there would be greater debate about camogie and the hurling leagues on here if they were given prime time slots on RTE also, media coverage plays a huge role. Well done to the IRFU on getting that deal. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 11/02/2017 08:34:28 1954610 Link
If you put a video of a dog licking it's balls on a continuous loop on RTE it would get a few hundred thousand viewers. 160k watching a womens rugby match on RTE is not really that big an indication of public interest in the sport. uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 11/02/2017 09:34:38 1954621 Link
Replying To alano12: "parts of this thread are nonsense but there is plenty of good points/information....rugby is not really for all shapes and sizes anymore..need to be big into the gym now realistically...agree that sport is good for all no matter what it is..only issue i have is with the preferential coverage" A scrumhalf, a centre, a prop, a second row are usually different shapes and sizes regardless of them going to the gym. They've been different shapes for years. Probably all positions in rugby could find a game playing Gaelic football except for the bulkier props and hookers. But modern day backs are massive compared to prey professional days. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 11/02/2017 09:59:24 1954631 Link
Replying To uibhfhaili1986: "If you put a video of a dog licking it's balls on a continuous loop on RTE it would get a few hundred thousand viewers. 160k watching a womens rugby match on RTE is not really that big an indication of public interest in the sport." Ha, funny but ridiculous! TG4 has far more interesting things on sports wise than your proverbial dog and it only gets very small viewing figures. Does the camogie final or the FAI cup final get 160k viewers when then those games are televised live each year? -- I very much doubt it. Probably no more than half that (the camogie final anyway). PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 11/02/2017 10:45:56 1954643 Link
when the camogie finals or ladies football finals are on the tv RTE don't run wall to wall advertisements for the coverage but then again, when did RTE ever cover these finals? manfromdelmonte (UK) - Posts: 541 - 11/02/2017 11:23:31 1954659 Link
Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Ha, funny but ridiculous! TG4 has far more interesting things on sports wise than your proverbial dog and it only gets very small viewing figures. Does the camogie final or the FAI cup final get 160k viewers when then those games are televised live each year? -- I very much doubt it. Probably no more than half that (the camogie final anyway)." A certain percentage of people in this country just watch what is on RTE. Look at the viewership the Late Late show.It's complete rubbish but has very good viewership figures.Put womens rugby on TG4 and I'd say the figures would be much much worse. The ladies football final in 2016 got average viewership of 235K on TG4 which is a great indication of the sports popularity, imagine how many viewers they would get if it was on RTE, probably double that. http://ladiesgaelic.ie/clubs/tg4-viewing-figures-match-previous-viewing-record/ uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 11/02/2017 11:24:01 1954660 Link
Are Rugbai Telefis Eireann showing any GAA today? Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 11/02/2017 11:26:42 1954661 Link
Replying To Cavan_Slasher: "Are Rugbai Telefis Eireann showing any GAA today?" No live GAA games until June Seriously valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 11/02/2017 12:11:23 1954685 Link
Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Ha, funny but ridiculous! TG4 has far more interesting things on sports wise than your proverbial dog and it only gets very small viewing figures. Does the camogie final or the FAI cup final get 160k viewers when then those games are televised live each year? -- I very much doubt it. Probably no more than half that (the camogie final anyway)." You would be right to doubt it, the camogie final gets well over 200k viewers despite being on Sunday afternoon in September when the number of TV viewers generally would be much smaller than a Friday evening in February. It's amusing the lengths some people go to run down the games unique to their own country. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 11/02/2017 12:34:07 1954690 Link
TG4 are axing the popular show - Seo Spoirt. This is a mainly GAA biased show. So that is bad news. https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/petition-launched-save-seo-spoirt-tg4/112641 galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 11/02/2017 13:07:37 1954702 Link
Replying To Soma: "You would be right to doubt it, the camogie final gets well over 200k viewers despite being on Sunday afternoon in September when the number of TV viewers generally would be much smaller than a Friday evening in February. It's amusing the lengths some people go to run down the games unique to their own country." Hmm...are you counting me among them Soma? Funny...a lot of others think I'm anti- rugby!!!! PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 11/02/2017 14:23:14 1954723 Link
Following RTÉ Rugby on Facebook. They had a post on all the major happenings of the first half - except Italy's try! keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 11/02/2017 15:11:48 1954737 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "A scrumhalf, a centre, a prop, a second row are usually different shapes and sizes regardless of them going to the gym. They've been different shapes for years. Probably all positions in rugby could find a game playing Gaelic football except for the bulkier props and hookers. But modern day backs are massive compared to prey professional days." props lot quicker than used to be and getting even bigger it appears in all positions..backs yeah simply massive now..and even scrum halfs are pretty big now alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 11/02/2017 17:32:06 1954788 Link
Replying To janesboro: "soma Ryle Nugent has made it fairly clear that a deal has been done and RTE only get to show the Autumn Internationals if they also show live the U20 games from the 6nations. yep he said same via twitter yesterday A similar deal is in place to explain why the women's games are shown. -most probably is It has nothing to do with public interest despite what some on here would make you believe as there isn't really any, it was a deal done by the IRFU to ensure maximum exposure for the sport. he also mentions in his twitter the average viewing was 160k #assuming this was inpependently vouched etc -which to me anyway would suggest there is a public interest i note a thread about the NHL so far has only attracted 18 replies - seems theres more interest in bashing rugby than hurling on this site!! fair dues the irfu for insisting under 20s and womens game shown -maybe the gaa should look at same re getting more camogie on the box. i did suggest same previously on this thread but nobody replied,but then again this thread is all about anti rugby anti rugby anti rugby nobody gives a damn here about hurling or camogie!!!!!!" 160k viewers in primetime on rte is awful viewership alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 11/02/2017 17:33:11 1954789 Link
Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Hmm...are you counting me among them Soma? Funny...a lot of others think I'm anti- rugby!!!!" Don't you be believing all the rugby propaganda pool, they were probably the ones who convinced you that only 80k would watch a camogie game - the actual number is 3 times that despite minimal promotion. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 11/02/2017 17:35:47 1954791 Link
Replying To PoolSturgeon: "Hmm...are you counting me among them Soma? Funny...a lot of others think I'm anti- rugby!!!!" That was me! But a swift reply from yourself had me changing my mind! In fairness an under-guestimation of viewers for a sporting fixture doesn't make anyone pro or anti the sport. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 11/02/2017 18:27:00 1954810 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "That was me! But a swift reply from yourself had me changing my mind! In fairness an under-guestimation of viewers for a sporting fixture doesn't make anyone pro or anti the sport." when it goes against the facts available it suggests a bias...camogie and ladies football are a proven draw for viewership on a channel with much less viewers and in a language lots of people are not exactly great at so logic suggests they would do very well on rte if covered alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 11/02/2017 18:42:58 1954814 Link
Replying To alano12: "when it goes against the facts available it suggests a bias...camogie and ladies football are a proven draw for viewership on a channel with much less viewers and in a language lots of people are not exactly great at so logic suggests they would do very well on rte if covered" Not when someone is estimating figures and saying they're giving their opinion. If someone was watching the Tyrone game tonight and tells their mate that they reckon there was about 30,000 at it but there was really 40,000 that doesn't make them anti-GAA does it? There are very few facts on this thread, mostly opinions. GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 11/02/2017 19:01:23 1954822 Link