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Michael Fennelly will slot in at number 6, he has been playing there with his club and Joey Holden plays full back for Ballyhale. It might not be as hard fill those places as you'd think. Paul Murphy could play in either position as he does for his club also. Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 27/11/2014 11:03:39 1675150 Link 0 |
Under Cody,Kilkenny have won 29% of their record 34 titles.I imagine Cody will be letting Walter Walsh and Mark Kelly that more is expected off them this year.These words seemed to have the desired effect with Richie Power this year. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 27/11/2014 11:42:10 1675160 Link 0 |
As a Kilkenny man, there are a few things that stand out in this forum to me. KK4Life (Kilkenny) - Posts: 56 - 27/11/2014 11:47:16 1675162 Link 0 |
To those saying "sure tehy didnt start/play much" dont underestimate there importance in the dressing room and at training Brianmac78 (Dublin) - Posts: 1168 - 27/11/2014 13:13:42 1675187 Link 0 |
There is no fear of the cats, plenty of talent knocking around Kilkenny and that's for sure. KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 27/11/2014 13:22:27 1675190 Link 0 |
the retirements are not going to directly weaken the starting 15, kilkenny always have more players breaking through although centre back could be a problem position to try and nail someone down but there is plenty of genuine options. joyce, fennelly, buckley and lester ryan could all do a job there. personally i like michael fennelly in this position although i am a big fan of joyce and was surprised that he didnt play more often this year. fullback could be a problem once jj goes but paul murphy is a class player and im sure he could fill in. when jj and jackie are both gone though kilkennys defense definitely will not be as strong as it once was because they might struggle to find good enough replacements. hurlingexpert (Clare) - Posts: 1941 - 27/11/2014 14:45:28 1675206 Link 0 |
Personally I don't believe Holden could play full back. Fennelly could be a master stroke at centre back tho. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 27/11/2014 16:16:27 1675218 Link 0 |
Wexford will go up to Nowlan Park and leave these cats with their tail between their legs ;) Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 27/11/2014 16:37:30 1675224 Link 0 |
No one who started the all Ireland replay has retired as yet so the biggest impact on Kilkenny is that the fear factor there bench put in the minds of opponents this year won't be as strong next year,that aside i felt the gap had closed before these retirements,e.g from 2009-2011 Tipperary were the only team capable of beating Kilkenny but this year limerick and Tipperary both came within a whisker of beating them,cork and Dublin beat them last year and if Clare and Galway get their mojo back they will certainly be good enough to put it up to them bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 27/11/2014 19:50:27 1675258 Link 0 |
The bottom line is when has it looked kilkenny were going to lose? They have always done enough. Tipp and cork beat then in 10 and 13 but sure when you look at it injuries didn't do the cats any favours. Coping with retirements will be no prob. Eddie Brennan, cha, john dalton, Tennyson, gorta as well as noel hickey have all came and went. The following year who was lifting Liam? The Cats. When is a team in the last ten minutes going to step up and beat them? They've never looked liked loosing maybe bar the 2014 free in the drawn game. Kilkenny out played in the league final this year still win it. July 2013 in Nowlan park, apparently on their last legs and tipp will finish them with ease. Result? A depleted cats team by 3! 222 (UK) - Posts: 695 - 28/11/2014 10:53:22 1675298 Link 0 |
They certainly rode their luck in winning both the League and All Ireland.Tipperary can count themselves very unlucky not to have won both. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 28/11/2014 12:13:14 1675317 Link 0 |
Dont know where youre getting that from cuederocket. joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 29/11/2014 16:56:28 1675481 Link 0 |
Kilkenny won a league final in extra time when the TG4 cameras showed a Kilkenny point was actually a wide and a legitimate Tipp point was given as a wide.Would this count as riding your luck jon? cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 29/11/2014 17:32:42 1675487 Link 0 |
And dont get me started on the changing of the penalty rule for the All Ire,when Kilkenny scored 2 penalties from 14 yards out in League final.A rule change that,in my humble opinion,cost Tipp the All Ireland.Talk about cruel luck?? cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 29/11/2014 17:35:30 1675488 Link 0 |
The penalty rule is ridiculous I agree. Its way too far out and it probably did cost Tipp dear but even taking this into consideration the cats overpowered them over the two games and were deserving winners imo. joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 29/11/2014 18:27:25 1675500 Link 0 |
KK will keep going as long as JJ and Jackie do, when they retire I believe Tipp will finally get the better of KK with Clare and Limerick also winning all Ireland's in the near future. therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 29/11/2014 18:50:03 1675507 Link 0 |
Kilkenny did not overpower Tipp in the drawn final.Tipp had 6/7 great goal chances.I stand over my original post,in which you pulled me up over.Kilkenny rode their luck in last years League and All Ireland finals and Tipperary can count themselves unlucky not to have won 1,if not both. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 29/11/2014 19:00:01 1675514 Link 0 |
Is there nothing these Kilkenny boys can't do regarding stick & ball? realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 29/11/2014 21:39:24 1675533 Link 0 |
All players are replaceable to a degree. Sometimes people get too bound up in the importance of a certain player, good and all as they may be. Take JJ for example, an outstanding hurler by any standard. Yet, in the draw and replay this year he gave up 2-5 from play (of course he hurled a lot of ball but if every player conceded that from play, a team would lose). Pat Horgan took him for a spin around Thurles last year and then there's the Limerick semi this year. My point therefore is that someone like Paul Murphy could easily slot in there and replace him- he might not be the same type of player as Delaney but he would be equally as good. 1914 (Clare) - Posts: 92 - 30/11/2014 11:44:43 1675539 Link 0 |
Yes realdub,as a big snooker fan all my life,it was great to see young Morris beat the reigning world champion.The cats certainly have that hand eye co-ordination down to a tee. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 30/11/2014 11:46:42 1675540 Link 0 |