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Theres no doubt that the recent retirements of Herity,Walsh,Hogan,Taggy and JJ will leave a void in the Kilkenny dressing room.Bar JJ,and to a lesser extent B Hogan,they havnt contributed much on the field of play in recent years,but their input into Kilkennys legendary high intensity training matches in Nowlan Park over the years cannot be underestimated.It is these high quality matches that have the chosen 15 is such peak condition game after game.Year after year.Also to have these men absent from the dressing room has to be a loss.I would imagine,when going out to face Tipp,Clare,Galway etc,when you look around the dressing room and see men of the calibre of T Walsh,B Hogan and JJ Delaney,it would inspire confidence in everyone.Their absense will be keenly felt,leaving a big leadership void throughout the team.It will weaken Kilkenny,no doubt about it. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 08/12/2014 15:15:08 1677397 Link 0 |
I hear you Cuedrocket bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 08/12/2014 16:08:58 1677422 Link 0 |
9 teams good enough to beat anyone on their day = Kilkenny, Clare, Cork, Tipperary, Limerick, Dublin, Wexford, Galway, Waterford. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 08/12/2014 16:25:55 1677426 Link 0 |
i would think there are 6 teams that can aall beat each other possibly 7. the seventh team being galway - they have the ability to challenge but there is just something about them that never convinces. waterford are in my opinion another year or 2 off challenging with the top teams, but they are a young team building in the right direction. and it doesnt take 5 or 6 years to make the step up with a new team so as early at 2016 they could be able to mix it with the other big teams and dont be srprised if the cause an upset or 2 in 2015. hurlingexpert (Clare) - Posts: 1941 - 08/12/2014 16:52:08 1677435 Link 0 |
Kilkenny are still favourites for me only slightly though,i'd have clare limk and tipp grouped together as i don't see much between them and its one of these that will win the all irl with maybe cork an outside chance as they have an easier route than the other 3 from munster i mentioned someday (Limerick) - Posts: 1104 - 08/12/2014 16:56:15 1677438 Link 0 |
Galway are the joker in the pack because they could literally go from a ranking of 6th to 1st in the blink of an eye. Even though I have a lot of time for Anthony Cunningham, I have lost faith in the I players, they must drive their fans mental. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 08/12/2014 17:46:43 1677450 Link 0 |
I think one of Limerick or Clare year will be over by july. The team that lose that game will have a massive effect on them and don't see who ever lose bouncing back from it. I have a fancy for Limerick I really think if they can win Munster they will take some stoping. I worry for Tipp as it seems we need to be playing KK for them to bring out the best in us. For me it's KK Limerick or Tipp to win Liam therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 08/12/2014 20:03:21 1677482 Link 0 |
Hope you're right Realtmo but imo big big ask for Limerick next yr to win either munster or the All irl,clare first then tipp and more than likely cork in the final just to get thru munster then 2 more to win All irl.I know if we were to get thru clare we'd have tipp at home and then if cork get over Waterford which is no guarantee we'd have cork at home but still huge ask.But I agree with you I think the winners will come from kk tipp and limerick but would add clare and maybe cork someday (Limerick) - Posts: 1104 - 09/12/2014 11:29:33 1677549 Link 0 |
Someday Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4340 - 09/12/2014 19:17:16 1677695 Link 0 |
Have Waterford home advantage against Cork or did I pick up something wrong ? WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 10/12/2014 11:09:32 1677785 Link 0 |
Is Walsh Park big enough to hold a big Munster Championship game v Cork? cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 10/12/2014 12:08:43 1677805 Link 0 |
I think this was proposed before but I thought it was dead in the water someday (Limerick) - Posts: 1104 - 10/12/2014 12:15:01 1677807 Link 0 |
Wildpundit Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4340 - 10/12/2014 14:23:37 1677835 Link 0 |
40 years on and hes still right. Absolutely worse county ground in the country deadybai (Kilkenny) - Posts: 63 - 10/12/2014 16:19:21 1677866 Link 0 |
Dublin are gone...wont be back . preddan (Kildare) - Posts: 739 - 10/12/2014 18:49:49 1677889 Link 0 |
as for wexford i dont really rate them, i think they massively over achieved this year in beating clare and waterford. the limerick game was a more telling reflection of where they are at. in all honesty they are a poor enough team and in my opinion are certainly closer to the likes of offaly, laois, antrim and westmeath rather than the top 8 teams Linebacker (Wexford) - Posts: 100 - 10/12/2014 21:01:29 1677922 Link 0 |
preddan someday (Limerick) - Posts: 1104 - 11/12/2014 20:02:43 1678117 Link 0 |
Someday Limerick for the first time stood up last year V Kk when it really mattered, forget the wins V Tipp and Cork in the last two years, even tho Limerick lost to KK that was the most important game Limerick played. They really became a very good team that day V Kk and are the only other team outside of Tipp that have matched Kk in a big game when it really mattered (knockout hurling) This is why I think Limerick are real contenders in 15 therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 11/12/2014 20:28:02 1678119 Link 0 |
Didn't Wexford beat Clare in this year's qualifiers?. Cork beat them in this year's Munster SHC. Thanks 'Hurling expert from Clare,'in pointing out our place in the hurling world, we know Offaly are in a bad place. Since when did Clare become a hurling superpower? thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1746 - 11/12/2014 21:08:19 1678133 Link 0 |
If Cody leads KK to and AI in 2015, it will surely be an even greater achievement than winning the 2006 final when KK were in another transition after losing the likes of Peter Barry, Philly Larkin, John Power, John Hoyne and DJ Carey to name a few. They will still take some beating though. Still huge experience among the panel. Be interesting to see what kind of players they have coming up that can replace the outgoing 5 or 6. Faithfull (Offaly) - Posts: 573 - 11/12/2014 21:43:20 1678143 Link 0 |