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Supermac's Call For Investigation Into Galway GAA Sponsorship Spending

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Replying To moc.dna:  "Strange, why you would cloud the issue by bringing in the fine voluntary work by the DAFTS committee with Tuam Stadium with an issue about financial mismanagement. Think we are going to see more blind siding this week as the cover up of this scandal goes to the very top & there are those who don't want this to come out."
Not trying to cloud any issue, just highlighting the fact that this should be a good news week for Galway with the developments going on in Tuam which as far as I am aware is being funded completely independent of the county board, in fact given the good level of organisation I hear regarding the Tuam Stadium Committee and the pace at which they have accomplished so much I think Galway could do worse than hand them the reigns of the county. By the way I don't think Galway are the only county in this position and I wouldn't be surprised if we see other county sponsors seeking clarity on what their money is being spent on going forward

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3561 - 02/10/2019 10:39:26    2240876

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Replying To lowandhard:  "
Replying To DryEye84:  "What do ye think of this?

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Galway's income has grown steadily over the years. In 2012, it was €2,973,260 and while it dipped marginally the following year to €2,840,087, it has grown incrementally.
In 2017, it was €3,766,662 and in 2018jumped to €4,947,133 with the senior hurlers again reaching the All-Ireland final and the footballers making the league final and the All-Ireland semi-finals..........the above extract take from The Irish Times, just under Euro 5 mio income in 2018, what was it spent on ?"
Would you have a link to that irish times artical??

Blackberry (Galway) - Posts: 23 - 02/10/2019 10:49:51    2240882

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Replying To Galwaymaster9:  "Well said.. We in Tuam very proud of the work and fundraising. Our County board is rotten to the core"
And so you should be. The real home of Galway football.

Blackberry (Galway) - Posts: 23 - 02/10/2019 11:02:51    2240886

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Thanks to Supermac for his money and sponsorship. But it is time Galway looked for another sponsor.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1764 - 02/10/2019 11:24:08    2240898

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Replying To heartbroken:  """""Supermac's would like to detail that the amount of sponsorship given by Supermac's to Galway GAA for the sponsored teams over the past 5 years to date is over €1.25m in direct payments plus over €340,000 in ancillary sponsorship," read a statement on the Supermac's website."""

is this an appropriate amount of sponsorship money for 5 years ? I do not think so and Galway going forward need supermacks to substantially increase its sponsorship or ells Galway needs a AIG type sponcer"
Nonsense, there are very few
AIG type sponsors out there & obviously you never went looking for sponsorship from any major companies, it's a fantasy to think you will match Dublin's AIG sponsor. In fact trying to get any sponsor now to align their professional reputation & hard earned cash with Galway GAA is going to be very difficult even with changes. There is a toxic culture there & nobody wants to be identified with that. If you think it's raining sponsors who will top Supermacs input especially in the lean years as they did, come back & let us know.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1000 - 02/10/2019 11:37:18    2240900

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Replying To galwayford:  "Thanks to Supermac for his money and sponsorship. But it is time Galway looked for another sponsor."
what a disgraceful comment to a family who (dont have to might i add) have been pumping money into Galway GAA for almost 20yrs. sure, lets go get an AIG who will pump a million into Galway for a year and then when we dont win anything watch them pull resources for the team who is winning. then who do we look at? fair play to the McDonaghs for bringing this into public light, and long may their much appreciated support continue.

CillTormoir (Galway) - Posts: 127 - 02/10/2019 11:39:00    2240901

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Replying To PoolSturgeon:  "No it's a good thing. Totally transparency is badly needed. If there are any cheats or wasters in the system they need to be exposed. Good accounting is not a threat to anyone who has the good of Galway hurling and football as their prime motivation"
I fully agree with you. I hope it gets exposed too but it will probably get very ugly.

Trump2020 (Galway) - Posts: 937 - 02/10/2019 12:12:19    2240906

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All the evils of the Amateur GAA are money related and it is money which is ruining the game (at Intercounty level anyway though perhaps a bit too at club level when talking of the big/super clubs). Reminds me of Scottish Football a bit back in the 90's early noughties. We had one team who were being bankrolled by the Scottish Banks and gaining unfair advantages through illegal schemes and we had a number of other teams who in trying to keep up either went to the wall or did serious long term financial damage, some which still haven't recovered. The GAA has reached that stage where we are seeing some of the traditional top Counties trying to keep up with Dublin and digging deep holes for themselves in chasing what is an unattainable or unrealistic target.

What is more worrying is that it seems few people are able to see the iceberg in the horizon and the same people will be the first to scratch their heads and wonder how did it all go wrong or how did no one see it coming as the ship starts to sink.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 3968 - 02/10/2019 12:40:09    2240910

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Replying To Blackberry:  "
Replying To lowandhard:  "[quote=DryEye84:  "What do ye think of this?

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Galway's income has grown steadily over the years. In 2012, it was €2,973,260 and while it dipped marginally the following year to €2,840,087, it has grown incrementally.
In 2017, it was €3,766,662 and in 2018jumped to €4,947,133 with the senior hurlers again reaching the All-Ireland final and the footballers making the league final and the All-Ireland semi-finals..........the above extract take from The Irish Times, just under Euro 5 mio income in 2018, what was it spent on ?"
Would you have a link to that irish times artical??"]https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/pat-kearney-says-new-financial-controls-will-be-implemented-in-galway-1.3736023


I hope this brings you to the article.

lowandhard (Galway) - Posts: 29 - 02/10/2019 12:52:49    2240914

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It's Galway now at the minute, who knows who next.

The way the association has never properly tackled the issue of under the table payments to managers only makes it easier for other more serious accounting issues to take root.

As others have said here, the association needs to take a close look at the spending practices of its units.

If there's going to be payment of managers, coaches, S and C professionals, Physios let's get it above board or get rid of it.

The level of spending of the top teams and the sponsorship arms race that it creates feels wrong to me.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 3007 - 02/10/2019 13:21:10    2240924

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Replying To lowandhard:  "
Replying To Blackberry:  "[quote=lowandhard:  "[quote=DryEye84:  "What do ye think of this?

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Galway's income has grown steadily over the years. In 2012, it was €2,973,260 and while it dipped marginally the following year to €2,840,087, it has grown incrementally.
In 2017, it was €3,766,662 and in 2018jumped to €4,947,133 with the senior hurlers again reaching the All-Ireland final and the footballers making the league final and the All-Ireland semi-finals..........the above extract take from The Irish Times, just under Euro 5 mio income in 2018, what was it spent on ?"
Would you have a link to that irish times artical??"]https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/pat-kearney-says-new-financial-controls-will-be-implemented-in-galway-1.3736023


I hope this brings you to the article."]Thanks!!

Blackberry (Galway) - Posts: 23 - 02/10/2019 13:33:19    2240928

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Yes thanks to Supermac for his sponsorship. But they got a lot back too. Supermacs are a huge outfit now. Galway GAA helped him achieve this. I believe that the ill fated "Mountain South" centre of excellence in the 00's, debacle dealt a big blow to Galway GAA. That said, I also believe Supermac is trying to get out of this sponsorship deal. And this financial irregularity business helps him do this.
Also Supermac's fast food is not a great look for Galway GAA minors. So if I was Galway I would be looking to hang onto Supermac for another year, then let him go. Gaillimh abú

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1764 - 02/10/2019 14:09:19    2240937

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The Irish media is just trolling the GAA imho. A lot of Irish businesses is run by ex Public schoolboys, (Blackrock, Terenure etc) who never liked the GAA. And just want to denigrate it.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1764 - 02/10/2019 14:11:32    2240939

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The Irish media is just trolling the GAA imho. A lot of Irish businesses is run by ex Public schoolboys, (Blackrock, Terenure etc) who never liked the GAA. And just want to denigrate it.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 1764 - 02/10/2019 14:11:32    2240940

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Replying To Offside_Rule:  "All the evils of the Amateur GAA are money related and it is money which is ruining the game (at Intercounty level anyway though perhaps a bit too at club level when talking of the big/super clubs). Reminds me of Scottish Football a bit back in the 90's early noughties. We had one team who were being bankrolled by the Scottish Banks and gaining unfair advantages through illegal schemes and we had a number of other teams who in trying to keep up either went to the wall or did serious long term financial damage, some which still haven't recovered. The GAA has reached that stage where we are seeing some of the traditional top Counties trying to keep up with Dublin and digging deep holes for themselves in chasing what is an unattainable or unrealistic target.

What is more worrying is that it seems few people are able to see the iceberg in the horizon and the same people will be the first to scratch their heads and wonder how did it all go wrong or how did no one see it coming as the ship starts to sink."
You're spot on and all the GAA want to talk about is a 2 tier championship.

KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 10926 - 02/10/2019 14:22:54    2240941

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Replying To galwayford:  "Thanks to Supermac for his money and sponsorship. But it is time Galway looked for another sponsor."
You're not living in the real world. I can assure you if what you suggest was actually to happen, Connacht rugby would be in there as quick as a flash to sign him up. And with Supermacs having their eye on expanding into Europe it would merge well with their long term marketing plans. We should be counting ourselves so lucky to have such a major sponsor, someone who was there from the beginning when it was anything but fashionable or worthwhile from a business point of view.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1401 - 02/10/2019 14:27:06    2240945

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Replying To galwayford:  "Thanks to Supermac for his money and sponsorship. But it is time Galway looked for another sponsor."
Yeh, good luck with that search for another sponsor to match Supermacs. We have been lucky to have such a loyal supporter through good times and bad. Imagine if our county board had been running Supermacs......

conordee (Galway) - Posts: 397 - 02/10/2019 15:03:24    2240957

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Replying To galwayford:  "Yes thanks to Supermac for his sponsorship. But they got a lot back too. Supermacs are a huge outfit now. Galway GAA helped him achieve this. I believe that the ill fated "Mountain South" centre of excellence in the 00's, debacle dealt a big blow to Galway GAA. That said, I also believe Supermac is trying to get out of this sponsorship deal. And this financial irregularity business helps him do this.
Also Supermac's fast food is not a great look for Galway GAA minors. So if I was Galway I would be looking to hang onto Supermac for another year, then let him go. Gaillimh abú"
Bit unfair on Pat McDonagh there who is a great Galway and GAA man, although I can see a ban coming on fast food sponsorship just like ciggrates and alcohol being rolled out eventually.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 10157 - 02/10/2019 18:27:28    2241003

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Replying To conordee:  "Yeh, good luck with that search for another sponsor to match Supermacs. We have been lucky to have such a loyal supporter through good times and bad. Imagine if our county board had been running Supermacs......"
I honestly cant believe that people think we are going to have the pick of sponsors if supermacs pull out. Two financial reviews that the results were kept from being made public and the little that was leaked out wasnt good. Donoghue thanked supermacs when he resigned and there was no mention of the county board. Walsh made a very professional comment about the lack of structures in place for galway football that would affect the future and the county board removed it and hoped no one would notice.

And if supermacs leave it will be because the county board could not tell them what they spent 1.2million on.

In what world is any big name company going to hand over millions to galway gaa where there is questions over governance and no accountability. Just for publicity. There are other counties they can go to. The same people who think this will also be confused as to the lack of interest in the senior football and hurling manager jobs

Also supermacs asked privately for this info 4 years ago and have received no response for 4 years. Well done pat McDonagh for making this statement public.

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1107 - 02/10/2019 18:37:43    2241004

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The next question arising out of this is what Croke Park knows about this as they were directly involved in the final report. What advice or actions did they take. Was direct action taken against one of their employees, were they let go, dismissed, paid off ? Why weren't the reports released to the public ? Were parts of the reports redacted ? Were they aware of Supermacs request four years ago re corporate governance when it directly relates to this scandal, if so who knew ? The role of senior people in Croke Park in relation to this needs to be clarified or are we going to see the same actions as in the FAI, time for some deep investigation.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1000 - 02/10/2019 20:11:19    2241022

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