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Surely the Kilkenny and Tipp face guards being used by county players should be banned? Any altering of the helmet should not be allowed valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 08/05/2017 20:15:02 1985294 Link
Replying To valley84: "Surely the Kilkenny and Tipp face guards being used by county players should be banned? Any altering of the helmet should not be allowed" Technically you are not actually insured if you are indeed using one of these faceguards as you have tampered with the helmet which leaves the warranty null and void. Which also nulls your insurance as you are not wearing the correct standard of helmet . Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1914 - 08/05/2017 21:50:23 1985322 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "The mandatory wearing of helmets by all players was enforced from the top only a few years ago, even though it annoyed many. Were you out at the crossroads with your pike then?" No because that was a health and safety issue. It had to be enforced. Nobody is going to go out marching with pikes to enforce a uniformity in the colour of team helmets. Set up a group yourself to lobby for change if you feel that strongly about it and see how far you'll get. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1907 - 08/05/2017 21:52:15 1985323 Link
Replying To valley84: "Surely the Kilkenny and Tipp face guards being used by county players should be banned? Any altering of the helmet should not be allowed" Good point. What is the standard, if any, for a hurling helmet? Are they the checked before the game by the officials? Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2480 - 08/05/2017 22:20:40 1985331 Link
Replying To tonydoranfan: "Dont think you every played hurling.... Try and make 50% of hurlers wear anything but cooper!!!" Well they tried making all players wear helmets and I am sure it wasn't too popular with players who never wore them, but wear them they did. murrax (Wexford) - Posts: 90 - 08/05/2017 23:51:47 1985335 Link
Replying To HurlingSnob: "Ha that's amazing, I was thinking the opposite, that the six forwards and backs should wear 6 different colour helmets. All the same helmets would be a nightmare for the commentators and spectators. Even when there's only two backs say with the same colour helmet people from the crowd and commentators both get it wrong. If your six forwards and six backs each wore green, black, yellow, red, white and blue helmets it would be great." Commentators and supporters in American sports with helmets never get confused because players are all wearing the same colour helmets. I never use helmet colour as I.D, it's instinctive you can tell by the position of the field, the players style , body language, gait, number etc.. murrax (Wexford) - Posts: 90 - 09/05/2017 00:06:06 1985336 Link
Imagine a GAA with mandatory same helmets, we would have never had the privilege of seeing Conor Hayes wearing that wonderful brown helmet! Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 09/05/2017 07:46:43 1985342 Link
Replying To murrax: "Commentators and supporters in American sports with helmets never get confused because players are all wearing the same colour helmets. I never use helmet colour as I.D, it's instinctive you can tell by the position of the field, the players style , body language, gait, number etc.." probably because the first person to get the ball is the quarterback,then there are about 2-3 others who get the ball. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 09/05/2017 15:25:40 1985492 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Good point. What is the standard, if any, for a hurling helmet? Are they the checked before the game by the officials?" I put up an answer to this but wasn't posted by admin. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1914 - 09/05/2017 19:43:41 1985526 Link
Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Good point. What is the standard, if any, for a hurling helmet? Are they the checked before the game by the officials?" Apologies, just saw it there now . Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1914 - 09/05/2017 19:44:29 1985527 Link
Replying To valley84: "Surely the Kilkenny and Tipp face guards being used by county players should be banned? Any altering of the helmet should not be allowed" Which Tipp and Kilkenny players are you referring to? Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 10/05/2017 00:48:21 1985579 Link
Replying To perfect10: "probably because the first person to get the ball is the quarterback,then there are about 2-3 others who get the ball." In football there is a lot more than watching who has the football there are receiver routes, blocks, tackles etc., on defence your team doesn't even have the ball so you are focused on your teams defensive plays, looks, strategy etc, it involves watching several players doing different things.... also try watching Hockey or Lacrosse where both teams sometimes will have the same coloured helmets and nobody complains about being confused... just saying... murrax (Wexford) - Posts: 90 - 10/05/2017 04:09:23 1985585 Link
a helmet has to have NSAI approval and have no modifications,etc.many players modify faceguards,etc. and beyond that is an insurance minefield all players are running.it is a matter of time before an insurance company does not pay out on a bad injury because a player wasnt wearing a helmet with NSAI approval. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 10/05/2017 08:41:28 1985587 Link
Replying To murrax: "In football there is a lot more than watching who has the football there are receiver routes, blocks, tackles etc., on defence your team doesn't even have the ball so you are focused on your teams defensive plays, looks, strategy etc, it involves watching several players doing different things.... also try watching Hockey or Lacrosse where both teams sometimes will have the same coloured helmets and nobody complains about being confused... just saying..." A hockey rink is less than a quarter the size of a hurling pitch and there are 6 on each team, a lacrosse field is less than half the size of a hurling pitch with 11 on each team which means it's much easier to identify players. And while some might recognise players on their own team 120 yards away by his gait and playing style, are they able to distinguish opponents in the same way? Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 10/05/2017 10:03:20 1985601 Link
Replying To Killarney.87: "Which Tipp and Kilkenny players are you referring to?" Watch the next game with either team Non regulation face guards all across the field valley84 (Westmeath) - Posts: 1890 - 10/05/2017 16:59:30 1985742 Link
Replying To Killarney.87: "Which Tipp and Kilkenny players are you referring to?" Tipp and Kilkenny are styles of faceguard, I don't think the original poster was singling out these two counties in particular as offenders. There are players from every county (and most clubs) using modified/non-compliant helmets. game.on.now.ger (Galway) - Posts: 423 - 10/05/2017 18:11:50 1985762 Link
Replying To Killarney.87: "Cork tried it a couple of years ago but didn't continue with it. Different colour helmets can help you pick out players quicker especially if you are in a nose bleed seat. I see your point though. A lot of lads tend to wear the helmet they wear at club level where it matches that kit. I'm thinking of Sheflin and his green helmet that matched his Ballyhale kit better than his Kilkenny kit." I remember being at a Cork match as a neutral, where 14 of the 15 players wore red helmets (Patrick Horgan stuck with his blue helmet). It was highly confusing trying to keep track of who players were. Perhaps it would be easier when you are more familiar with the players, but I have even seen club supporters unsure of who one of their own players was just because they changed helmet colour. game.on.now.ger (Galway) - Posts: 423 - 10/05/2017 18:17:41 1985763 Link
Replying To valley84: "Watch the next game with either team Non regulation face guards all across the field" You need names when you are making claims like that. Daithi Burke of Galway is the only one that jumps out to me as someone who wears a modified helmet. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 11/05/2017 03:32:46 1985866 Link
Replying To Soma: "A hockey rink is less than a quarter the size of a hurling pitch and there are 6 on each team, a lacrosse field is less than half the size of a hurling pitch with 11 on each team which means it's much easier to identify players. And while some might recognise players on their own team 120 yards away by his gait and playing style, are they able to distinguish opponents in the same way?" Also in ice hockey the players have their own personal squad numbers on the back of jersey and on both arms along with their names in massive print on back of shirt, also have number on back of helmet. Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1914 - 11/05/2017 10:08:24 1985890 Link
Replying To Killarney.87: "You need names when you are making claims like that. Daithi Burke of Galway is the only one that jumps out to me as someone who wears a modified helmet." the vast majority of gaa players wear modified helmets. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 11/05/2017 15:23:00 1985982 Link