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09/07/2012 13:48:32
DUB1
County: Dublin
Posts: 5025

1212715
This trial gets under way now and allthough think it was unbelievable the way it was put back till after the euro,s. I hope see john terry get everything he deserve,s...
09/07/2012 14:26:03
TheMaster
County: Mayo
Posts: 7097

1212788
Justice?

Also, the trial was put back because so many of the witnesses would be unavailable until after the euros. No harm keeping the truth in there also...
Finally, if he is guilty the most he can get fined is 2500 pounds, hardly a punishment for him...
09/07/2012 14:48:30
pplocal
County: Tyrone
Posts: 5695

1212823
This is too serious a matter for people to want him to be found guilty just because they don't like him. Hopefully justice prevails, whatever the verdict may be
09/07/2012 15:03:12
dhorse
County: Laois
Posts: 11355

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DUB1
County: Dublin
Posts: 3398

1212715 This trial gets under way now and allthough think it was unbelievable the way it was put back till after the euro,s. I hope see john terry get everything he deserve,s...

Whatever he gets it will be deserved, that's the way justice takes it's course
09/07/2012 17:22:10
Meath_bhoy
County: Meath
Posts: 589

1213116
Good job Dub1 is not on the jury having already made up his mind before hearing any evidence
09/07/2012 21:06:18
Mancirish
County: UK
Posts: 1766

1213307
Jury what jury, it's a magistrate court. I don't know some people.... Lets hope he gets what he deserves we have seen enough of these racist s**m b**s to last a life time.

It will be interesting to see if the FA grow a pair if justice prevails or will they protect their own? I suspect the later....
10/07/2012 17:28:18
yew_tree
County: Mayo
Posts: 4517

1214029
If this this thread read: Luis Suarez.Racial Abuse Trial... - Am I the only one who think there would be more than 5 replies by now :/
10/07/2012 18:13:37
Mancirish
County: UK
Posts: 1766

1214072
Ahhh yew tee, if I remember rightly, with the Suarez/Evra thread it read Evra was this Evra was that. Not the other way round. The poor lad who was abused got nailed as the wrong doer. Happy to be corrected though.... :) Funny I don't rember Suarez getting much stick at all. And even when proven beyond doubt he was guilty he still got away with murder.... I said it at the time and I stand by it now he should have received a 2 year ban min. Kicked out of the prem would have been the obvious option, but we all know that they couldn't do that with the Terry incident hovering... Suarez was a very lucky boy IMO.

The key is to wait for the end of the trial and then we can have our say. Let's see what happens before we start to criticize too much. As much as I don't like the guy and it would seem obvious through the lip readers he has been racially abusing Ferdinand a fair and right minded person will wait for the course of law and order to prove what seems obvious........
10/07/2012 18:37:23
pplocal
County: Tyrone
Posts: 5695

1214090
Manc is correct, let's wait and see how it all ends up before we start condemning the man. Thankfully this is a court of law and not an FA enquiry so we can be confident that the defendant will get a fair and unbiased hearing
10/07/2012 21:22:59
GetOverTheBar
County: Tyrone
Posts: 582

1214242
I've always found it laughable that John Terry is regularly held up as 'the bad guy' of football, Ashley Cole not far behind. Meanwhile other players from other clubs have arguably done much worse - I'll use Giggs as the example here, and he now captains the GB Olympic team. Am i the only one that finds the portrayal of certain players over others shockingly biased here?
10/07/2012 22:00:13
mayoboy1
County: Mayo
Posts: 1389

1214275
What Ryan Giggs does in his personal life is his business and not ours. John Terry, allegedly, racially abused a fellow footballer on the field of play. What Giggs done has nothing to do with football, what Terry, allegedly, did has.
11/07/2012 09:16:16
brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 7238

1214300
I agree with Mayoboy here. Prem footballers live their lives in the spotlight whether they like it or not and are just as likely to feature on the front pages as they are the back. Lets face it few if any of them can be held up as a shining example, even the sainted D Beckham very publicly cheated on his wife and yet he is held up as the very paragon of virtue. John Terrys actions, if he is guilty, were moronic at best and at worst sinister, they were done on the field of play in front of thousands in the crowd and millions on TV, there is no comparison to Ryan Giggs indiscretions.
11/07/2012 16:58:52
Meath_bhoy
County: Meath
Posts: 589

1214973
MancIrish
Jury what jury, it's a magistrate court. I don't know some people....


Figure of speech my man! ..........ok, good job dub1 is not a magistrate then !!
11/07/2012 21:43:14
GetOverTheBar
County: Tyrone
Posts: 582

1215383
You miss the point, I'm not talking about the pending verdict in his upcoming case or even alleged racism.

Terry and Cole are vilified regularly in media and other forums for their reported off field antics, before this case ever came to light. I'm curious how Cole and Terry's alleged affairs are considered worse than Giggs, or Rooney for that matter. That is my point. There can be no doubt that the clubs and bias play their part in that portrayal.
12/07/2012 10:05:17
Breffni39
County: Cavan
Posts: 8404

1215444
GetOverTheBar
County: Tyrone
Posts: 432

1215383 You miss the point, I'm not talking about the pending verdict in his upcoming case or even alleged racism.

Terry and Cole are vilified regularly in media and other forums for their reported off field antics, before this case ever came to light. I'm curious how Cole and Terry's alleged affairs are considered worse than Giggs, or Rooney for that matter. That is my point. There can be no doubt that the clubs and bias play their part in that portrayal.


I don't get your point at all. Giggs and Rooney were absolutely pilloried for their affairs.
12/07/2012 11:55:13
brendtheredhand
County: Tyrone
Posts: 7238

1215595
I could be wrong but neither Giggs nor Rooney have a history of shooting trainees with pellet guns or taking backhanders to give journos a private tour of your clubs training facilities. Like I say, I'm open to correction!
12/07/2012 12:35:36
GetOverTheBar
County: Tyrone
Posts: 582

1215646
I find it curious however that Terry was stripped of being English captain for an affair, whilst Giggs is now captain of the GB team after an affair. How does that work?
12/07/2012 12:42:44
Breffni39
County: Cavan
Posts: 8404

1215653
GetOverTheBar
County: Tyrone
Posts: 433

1215646 I find it curious however that Terry was stripped of being English captain for an affair, whilst Giggs is now captain of the GB team after an affair. How does that work?


I find it curious that you are ignoring the fact Terry got re-instated as captain and lost it again for yet another indiscretion. Maybe your lack of knowledge is the reason for your confusion?
12/07/2012 12:50:14
GetOverTheBar
County: Tyrone
Posts: 582

1215663
Not at all, I'm just saying you fella's on this forum are fond of taking the high moral ground when your part of the Irish race who are without doubt some of the most racist on earth.

I don't vilify a man for something he may or may not have said, or may or may not have done. To be honest I don't even care about the case or the man it's laughable however how some of you lads go on like you haven't made a mistake in your life. Time to get real me thinks.

Oh, wait, anonymity, that washes the internet commentator from all his sins I forgot lads.
12/07/2012 13:02:41
Breffni39
County: Cavan
Posts: 8404

1215676
I hate to break it you but you're anonymous and taking the moral high ground.

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