Will the Special One behave himself ahead of this weekends El'Clásico from the Bernabéu The two sides met in Augusts Spanish super cup with Barca winning a controversial and ill-tempered second leg at the Nou Camp to claim the trophy by 5-4 on aggregate.

1-0 to Madrid.

And this is not a derby. Just so everyone knows.

Seamus89
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 2826

1080178 1-0 to Madrid.

And this is not a derby. Just so everyone knows.

Actually why not? The Spanish used to call it El Derbia del Espanol (or something spelled correctly). I think the term is based around rivalry rather than vacinity. if the locality is Spain, then then they're the biggest rivals, and some would say only real competition, in Spain. Just expanding the locality really. Spain and Protugal consider themselves two halves of the Iberian Derby. Conversely if two teams share the same city but aren't a rivalry for example West Ham and The Orient (even the same area of the city then technically it's not a Derby in the true sense..... that's just an example btw, they probably are fierce east! east! east-London rivals just the Hammers have bigger fish to bottle.

Barca 2-1 and a sendin' off I reckon. Real will be 1-0 up until the 83rd and then fireworks.

And this is not a derby. Just so everyone knows.

Correct

Love to see Madrid win this well. Barcelona are amazing but they badly need a humbling.

Inter-v-Juve is the 'Derby d'Italia'. Inter-v-Milan is the 'Derby della Madonnina' (Derby of the Blessed Virgin).

As far as I'm concerned 'Derby d'Italia' is an oxymoron. If it's a derby, it's between two teams in the same city. Maybe, just maybe, you can extend that to games like Newcastle-v-Sunderland, because the cities are so close. But two teams situated hundreds of miles away from each other is not a real derby and never will be.

Love to see Madrid win this well. Barcelona are amazing but they badly need a humbling.

World-class insight as always. I wonder is football really the most important sport in Catalonia?

slayer
County: Limerick
Posts: 4141

1080208 And this is not a derby. Just so everyone knows.

Correct

I'm not sure lads, I think as long as it's local and a rivalry then it's a Derby you can expand "local" - the main ingredient is rivalry.

Seamus89
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 2829

1080228 Love to see Madrid win this well. Barcelona are amazing but they badly need a humbling.

World-class insight as always. I wonder is football really the most important sport in Catalonia?

Oh ffs, give over will you. You're a grown man no?

As I've explained on the other thread this is a derby, Pedrito has regurgitated a lot of my points in his answer above so I won't go over it again. Real to win 3 - 2, Mourinho, as always, has done a simply fantastic job with Real and he'll mastermind the victory

Anyway, whatever about it being a derby or not, I think Madrid need to win this one Since Mourinho's arrival Real have only beaten Barca in the Spanish Cup and I'm sure nobody in Spain cared about that given the Catalan giants won la Liga and the Champions League.

So I think there is a lot of pressure on Real going into this one.

Is Man Utd-v-Barca local? I mean, in the grand scheme of things, it is local. It's a big world, and a flight from Manchester to Barcelona only takes a few hours, not much longer than the drive from Madrid to Barca, I'd imagine. Who is to say that Man Utd-v-Barca isn't a derby?

i think a lot more pressure is on barcelona then other times, they're not playing well lately (not including weekends result), 3 points behind with a game more played if they lose and madrid win their game-in-hand thats a 9 point gap i dont see mourinho letting slip.

i'll back a 2-1 victory for madrid

Seamus89
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 2831

1080271 Is Man Utd-v-Barca local? I mean, in the grand scheme of things, it is local. It's a big world, and a flight from Manchester to Barcelona only takes a few hours, not much longer than the drive from Madrid to Barca, I'd imagine. Who is to say that Man Utd-v-Barca isn't a derby?

Not a rivalry though, not even a f*cking contest the last two meetings. But yeah you actually do have a point, where do you draw the line? I suppose they don't regualrly play each other - only that they're the first and second best teams in Europe thus should meet in the final or en route. If it was an annual meeting in the final, then perhaps it would be the Euro Derby. Why not.

Breffni39
County: Cavan
Posts: 6462

1080236 Seamus89
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 2829

1080228 Love to see Madrid win this well. Barcelona are amazing but they badly need a humbling.

World-class insight as always. I wonder is football really the most important sport in Catalonia?

Oh ffs, give over will you. You're a grown man no?

It is something he will never be I am afraid.

El Clasico transcends football, it represents regional and political differences and the rivalry is the biggest and most watched in the World. I don't think you can compare it to United - Barca, they play at least twice a season (quite often more than that) and the games are inevitably hugely important especially now as they are probably the two best teams in the World. They are tense, tight and the talent on show is a joy to behold while United - Barca was like watching a senior team play their under 14's

pplocal
County: Tyrone
Posts: 4407

1080286 El Clasico transcends football, it represents regional and political differences and the rivalry is the biggest and most watched in the World. I don't think you can compare it to United - Barca, they play at least twice a season (quite often more than that) and the games are inevitably hugely important especially now as they are probably the two best teams in the World. They are tense, tight and the talent on show is a joy to behold while United - Barca was like watching a senior team play their under 14's

Yeah, good effort but Patrique would have been so much funnier. Yours reads like you typed it in a temper. You're gettin' the hang of Wikipedia though! That bit about a senior team against the under 14s isn't funny - them Barca lads are just short men they're not kids, comparing them to 14 year olds is heightist - not their fault most of united's midfeild is over 6ft.

Would you address the man's points Pedrito? Barca are on another planet to the best team in England (not anymore, obviously). So are Madrid. Napoli aren't the best team in Italy, but they soundly defeated Man City, who are strolling to the PL. There are serious problems within English football. Yes, it's entertaining. But is it top-quality? Absolutely not. The fact that Michael Carrick is regarded as a good passing midfielder really says it all about the EPL.

Seamus89
County: Kilkenny
Posts: 2833

1080325 Would you address the man's points Pedrito?

I did. I just didn't dumb it down for a tabloid reader.

Seamus it's easier for him to say that I hate the Brits or I hate United or I hate Ferguson etc. etc. than to respond to the points I've raised. I'm used to such arguments, I'm sure you are as well. If I was as anti-United as he claims I would have recalled the last two meetings between Barca and United not with anger but rather a beaming smile on my face. Rather I actually felt pity for United than they would be so comprehensively shown up in one of the biggest games of their lives, at times I could barely watch out of sheer embarrassment for them