GAA outline the role of Hawkeye

What will it NOT do?
- Does NOT detect goals
- Does NOT cover playing rule infringements e.g. Square Ball
- Does NOT involve a TMO (Television Match Official)

What WILL it do?
- Covers Gaelic Football and Hurling
- Detects points only

Now maybe I'm missing something here but over the last couple of years has there not been more debatable / contentious goals scored as opposed to points? Surely both should be looked at instead of just points?

If it's just going to involve a replay being shown on a big screen then why can't it be used for possible goals scored too, decisions being made automatically within one second are hardly going to slow the game up so why not bring it in for all scores, then again there's probably the fear that people might call for it to be brought in for fouls / penalties etc too.

Seems like a half arsed solution to me to be honest, there was the chance for this to be a very positive move for the GAA but it looks like they're only putting in minimal effort.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3694 - 15/05/2013 15:00:21    1384504

Seems like a half arsed solution to me to be honest, there was the chance for this to be a very positive move for the GAA but it looks like they're only putting in minimal effort.
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This is the GAA remember!.....expect very little to ever be done properly!

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Snufalufagus (Dublin) - Posts: 8100 - 15/05/2013 15:07:49    1384513

Why in gods name would they not implement it for goals? Where is the logic in wrongly allowing/disallowing goals but correcting decisions on points?

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 15/05/2013 15:12:16    1384518

I dont remember a tight call regarding a ball crossing or not crossing the line for a goal in a long time

Correct me if I'm wrong...

Nearly every incident of a ball being signalled wide or over the bar incorrectly related to points

I would gather it would be a differentt version of the current technology needed to check goals as in if a ball crossed the goal line

As oppossed to scan for a ball going between two posts

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 15/05/2013 15:24:56    1384530

Might as well get rid of the umpires if a decision takes a couple of seconds why doesn't hawk eye make every decision

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1949 - 15/05/2013 15:39:58    1384546

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1384530
I dont remember a tight call regarding a ball crossing or not crossing the line for a goal in a long time

Seánie Walsh v Cork in Pairc Uí Chaoimh 1976!

beir_bua (Kildare) - Posts: 746 - 15/05/2013 16:50:31    1384614

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1384614 jimbodub
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1384530
I dont remember a tight call regarding a ball crossing or not crossing the line for a goal in a long time

Seánie Walsh v Cork in Pairc Uí Chaoimh 1976!
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Exactly.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 15/05/2013 17:04:04    1384625

The GAA said when Hawk Eye was first announced it would only look at points. If someone threw the ball over the line, Hawk Eye would say it was a goal when clearly it wouldn't be because the player would have fouled the ball by throwing it in. Anyway...not impressed by it at all...Waste of money for what it appears to be costing the GAA

MidlandBlowin (Longford) - Posts: 66 - 15/05/2013 17:14:58    1384638

Aaron Kernan took a free in the ulster final in croke park in 2005 i think.The ball dropped short the Keeper caught the ball behind the line and the goal wasn't awarded. Pat McEnaney was referee

shaggylegend (Monaghan) - Posts: 1949 - 15/05/2013 17:18:29    1384641

A real hawk could see points and goals.

Samsforthehills (Donegal) - Posts: 1075 - 15/05/2013 17:44:59    1384673

a waste of money,a cop out for umpires and an unnecessary squandering of money.

replace umpires with up-and-coming referees in the county of the main referee,put a 2nd referee on the pitch,that is 8 sets of eyes.this money would be better spent on coaching or promoting hurling than this.

a farce.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 15/05/2013 17:46:44    1384674

A waste of money? Kildare could have done with it against down in 2010 when Alan Smith's point went over the bar and it was waved wide.

lilywhitemagic (Kildare) - Posts: 1693 - 15/05/2013 17:48:47    1384682

Other reasons for not introducing goal line technology.

Straightaway you have a two tier system whereby some games have it and some don't. The rules in a GAA match should be identical whether you're playing Junior B or lining out in AI Senior Final.

What about contentious sideline ball or endline calls? Those can easily lead to a score. Is it the case that one team gets the benefit of a score because hawkeye detected the ball as being between the posts yet another team in the same match were denied a point scoring opportunity because a line-ball was incorrectly awarded against them?
Do we now introduce technology to review every refereeing decision on the basis that a free can lead to a pass that can lead to another pass etc etc that leads to a score ?

Who's to say the technology won't fail at crucial times. Albeit an urban legend the following link is fairly indicative of flaws in technology.

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Maroonatic (Galway) - Posts: 1081 - 16/05/2013 09:07:45    1384888

Think as usual the Iirsh thing is to give out stink before giving something a chance...

Lets see how ir works out

I think it's quite a progressive move by the GAA

I also think it will add a new dimension to our games... I quite enjoy the hawk eye feature in tennis on the big screen

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 16/05/2013 10:14:03    1384931

Will it be a waste of money if it keeps your county in the championship this year? Great move by the GAA just a pity it took so long.

therealtmo (Tipperary) - Posts: 1292 - 16/05/2013 10:46:14    1384958

No one has a problem with the system itself, its just that it doesn't go far enough. I dont see why the GAA couldnt have a challenge system, e.g. 3 challenges in a game over controversial incidents. This would lead to more correct decisions, and with only 3 allowed, it wouldnt overly slow up the game.

PK57 (Louth) - Posts: 1664 - 16/05/2013 11:31:56    1384992

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1384992 No one has a problem with the system itself, its just that it doesn't go far enough. I dont see why the GAA couldnt have a challenge system, e.g. 3 challenges in a game over controversial incidents. This would lead to more correct decisions, and with only 3 allowed, it wouldnt overly slow up the game.
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Sure the idea could be developed... that's the good thing...

Give it a go and then make possible improvments down the line

Persoannly think it's a great idea... and again a very progressive move made by the GAA

How long has common sense been ignored in soccer...

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20763 - 16/05/2013 11:55:18    1385016

Apparently it lip reads so racists beware!

realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8821 - 16/05/2013 12:08:17    1385024

PK57,

I think a challenge system is a brilliant idea similar to that in the NFL. Maybe one per half and it must be made before the play resumes, could be used in all aspects from scores to was the right player red carded.

crossfieldball (Galway) - Posts: 650 - 16/05/2013 12:16:31    1385032

How would Halkeye interpret a Joe Throw

kikfada (Louth) - Posts: 2091 - 16/05/2013 12:18:54    1385036