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Weren't cases going to the High Court previously.The Gaa has it's internal appellate process and the DRA was set up as a final avenue of appeal.I think the DRA has a member or members with legal qualifications and the body is independent of the gaa per se.I'm sorry for De Burca.I wouldn't criticise the process but it did take too long to be finalised.Could the DRA not have met and heard the appeal and given it's decision last Monday or Tuesday.
endgame (Roscommon) - Posts: 2164 - 11/08/2017 11:45:23 2032303 Link 0 |
It wasnt less obvious to the linesman standing beside the incident. He saw it , red card offence, ref gave the card, end of story, how could he get off? Hard to prove he didnt do it . Only a technicality could have saved him. Touhys wasnt spotted by the match officials on the day which makes it less likely for him to be suspended unless 100% clearcut. conordee (Galway) - Posts: 440 - 11/08/2017 11:52:05 2032309 Link 1 |
The DRA's adjudication on Diarmuid Connolly's appeal was a complete joke. Moyle (Tipperary) - Posts: 86 - 11/08/2017 12:12:47 2032321 Link 0 |
But Tuohy's action is clear-cut. The circumstances differ in that one incident was spotted by the officials and the other wasn't so the process was predicated in the first case in that De Burca had to show/prove that the red card was incorrect while in the second case the CCCC had to decide if further action was required. If the officials had missed the De Burca incident would the cccc have revisited? (Don't think so). The outcome as is, that one player is free to play while the other is not is to say the least less that satisfactory. I have no preference for Waterford or Galway winning the Liam McCarthy cup, in fact I'd be delighted for either of them, and I believe a one match ban for either incident to be harsh.
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 678 - 11/08/2017 13:47:33 2032359 Link 0 |
Nothing to do with Horgan. The linesman Keenan recommended he be sent off after Kehoe had a good cry for himself. At least Kehoe's reputation is in tact after his 'heroic' efforts to help with the appeal. People are saying at least the integrity of the rules will be maintained now and I totally get where they are coming from with that. My fear is players could open their own helmet during a coming together and claim the other player did it or some sort of manipulation like that. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 11/08/2017 14:03:12 2032363 Link 1 |
Yes the DRA does have members with legal qualifications, it was set up a few years ago. If you had one appellate body with some members of the legal profession, and experienced referees, it might reach decisions more quickly than the current three step process. That body's decision should be final. In sport players are sanctioned for a breach of the playing rules, the GAA operate a card system. Any appeal request should be considered on whether there was an offence committed justifying a sending off, red card offence. Officials have to make a decision instantly using their judgement in a game, being human they sometimes get it wrong. An appeal then is worth following. There is a theory if you do the crime, you do the time, but in some instances that is not followed, and an appeal is lodged. It is normally high profile teams, and on occasions there is a clear breach of the rules, but an appeal succeeds. That makes people disillusioned with the process. I personally think the Waterford player was harshly done by, but the rule is clear on interference with a helmet. thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1741 - 11/08/2017 14:27:36 2032373 Link 1 |
The Semi Final has not been played yet. If the Decies win, you can be sure he will be playing in the final
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4321 - 11/08/2017 14:44:13 2032377 Link 0 |
Why?
AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 11/08/2017 14:50:53 2032378 Link 0 |
I was referring to the Tuohy incident in the Tipp match. That was why I mentioned consistency. catch22 (USA) - Posts: 2148 - 11/08/2017 16:26:50 2032408 Link 0 |
You my dear neighbour have hit the nail on the head - an excellent post IMO If this was the other way around, all would have been sorted in the first appeal. Ban (Westmeath) - Posts: 1415 - 11/08/2017 16:30:07 2032410 Link 0 |
I am not suggesting that Touhy should be suspended. I am just saying that when I look at the two incidents, Touhy's appears to be the one that involved more "intent" and it seems grossly unfair that De Burca is suspended. I get your points about De Burca having received a red card and the threshold required for video evidence in Touhy's situation. This is a case of the rules being strictly applied but of justice not being done. Both incidents were fairly trivial and undeserving of any sanction in my opinion. I'm sure that numerous comparable incidents go completely unnoticed over the course of a season.
Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 996 - 11/08/2017 18:29:41 2032433 Link 0 |
You don't understand the ruling on Connolly you'd want to read it again, it was a travesty, the guy was in a choke hold he was entitled to defend himself end off by any means as you are in self defence on the street. There ruling was quite damning " that the case against the Dublin footballer was "a breach of fair procedures, a significant impairment of his rights and was disproportionate, irrational and unfair." couldn't be much clearer Brolly was bang on the money with this one. BTW DRA is completely independent body and it is made of legal councils it has the final say on anything, and the reason for the delay is all other avenues have to eb exhausted before they can meet. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 11/08/2017 20:42:23 2032454 Link 0 |
Well the bookies sure have this nailed down to a t, once the red card gets held the Deise have no hope back down to dungarvan ye go. Hon the cork -2 OverBlackSpot (Roscommon) - Posts: 47 - 11/08/2017 22:41:59 2032487 Link 0 |