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I think this is worth a thread of its own at this stage and not get consumed in an individual game thread. So in 3 championship games we have conceded 6 goals and scored none and, more worringly, conceded many other goal chances. Louth had 3 additional goal chances and Sligo had at least 2 more tonight while the Kildare game was such a whirlwind I just cannot remember. On top of that no goals scored and, as far as i can remember, not a great number of chances created. Goals at the correct time have such an effect on he game this has to be worrying. My own opinion is that our players are turned too easily and up front we have no real playmaker. I hope that Andy is looking carefully at video fooage of, not just the goals but also the near misses. am sure that he is as he is very thorough. At this stage I think that Cillian O'Sullivan needs to be replaced by Newman in the CHF position and hopefully some more creativity will ensue. oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 01/07/2017 22:15:52 2008616 Link
IMHO, Bryan McMahon is probably the best finisher in the current squad but he is out now for the season. Biggy can finish too when he gets a clear enough run at the goals. Mickey Newman is the most experienced, classy and composed (if a little nonchalant at times) in and around goal and so the most likely player to improve things in this area. We need a goal poacher up front but also someone at #11 who is the go to man in attack (a mobile playmaker). A player with the experience, confidence and ability to be in the right place at the right time, always looking for (demanding) the ball, and instead of trying to do everything by himself, he bring others into the play all around him to maximum effect. GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 02/07/2017 00:03:13 2008682 Link
in the league cillian was our top goal scorer,think he got 6 goals. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 02/07/2017 09:11:55 2008763 Link
Replying To ziggy32001: "in the league cillian was our top goal scorer,think he got 6 goals." All the more reason to try him closer to goals and not have the responsibility of leading the attack.Watching the 3 championship games so far it's just not working out for him there. Not the only reason for our lack of goals I am sure. oldsam_newsam (Meath) - Posts: 638 - 02/07/2017 10:40:23 2008808 Link
Replying To GlasagusOr: "IMHO, Bryan McMahon is probably the best finisher in the current squad but he is out now for the season. Biggy can finish too when he gets a clear enough run at the goals. Mickey Newman is the most experienced, classy and composed (if a little nonchalant at times) in and around goal and so the most likely player to improve things in this area. We need a goal poacher up front but also someone at #11 who is the go to man in attack (a mobile playmaker). A player with the experience, confidence and ability to be in the right place at the right time, always looking for (demanding) the ball, and instead of trying to do everything by himself, he bring others into the play all around him to maximum effect." You mean we need to get a few players from the dublin panel who can't get a game for dublin ? noluso (Meath) - Posts: 164 - 02/07/2017 15:33:00 2008973 Link
Ha Ha. No need to be so negative. Those two guys they recruited haven't featured, one in an OBC game. Something of a publicity stunt. What we do need though is for Andy to reaccess his attacking gameplan. If the forwards who drop deep are mostly expected to play a running game, even D3 teams can restrict their attacking threat. They need to mix it up and get some quick ball into scoring forwards and not just those inside (however few) and not be so predictable. GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 02/07/2017 16:03:38 2008999 Link
Replying To GlasagusOr: "Ha Ha. No need to be so negative. Those two guys they recruited haven't featured, one in an OBC game. Something of a publicity stunt. What we do need though is for Andy to reaccess his attacking gameplan. If the forwards who drop deep are mostly expected to play a running game, even D3 teams can restrict their attacking threat. They need to mix it up and get some quick ball into scoring forwards and not just those inside (however few) and not be so predictable." thing is we put up big scores against derry,fermanagh,clare in the league and our support play and running was brilliant without looking wide open at the back. not sure how we lost that balance. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 02/07/2017 16:09:25 2009004 Link
Replying To GlasagusOr: "Ha Ha. No need to be so negative. Those two guys they recruited haven't featured, one in an OBC game. Something of a publicity stunt. What we do need though is for Andy to reaccess his attacking gameplan. If the forwards who drop deep are mostly expected to play a running game, even D3 teams can restrict their attacking threat. They need to mix it up and get some quick ball into scoring forwards and not just those inside (however few) and not be so predictable." Glas mightn't always agree with you, but its funny the amount of "new" Meath posters that's popping up, with nothing only snide comments about team, players, management and everything they can think of. Very odd for so called Meath supporters, as I said we might disagree but we both know the other one wants what's best for Meath football, always. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/07/2017 16:12:17 2009007 Link
Do we peak too early in the year and then others catch up by the time the championship comes around? Do we take the league more seriously than others? If we had to go down to Ennis could you honestly expect a result anything like the league match on current form? GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 02/07/2017 16:23:34 2009015 Link
Replying To GlasagusOr: "Do we peak too early in the year and then others catch up by the time the championship comes around? Do we take the league more seriously than others? If we had to go down to Ennis could you honestly expect a result anything like the league match on current form?" Bad and good in league too, the Down cork games in particular. I think its the old chestnut of consistency. Actually that's why I want a game we not expected to win, only team Meath would be favourite in is v Clare (whether that's accurate or not is another thing) but that is how it would-be perceived. I'll be honest I want mayo in Navan royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/07/2017 16:35:55 2009032 Link
The way Meath set up they will not score goals.. Shredded Louth man for man and didn't take 4-5 clear goal chances. Kildare 0 chances created Sligo 0 chances created. It's worrying when the Meath don't look like making chances Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 02/07/2017 16:50:12 2009040 Link
I remember when Meath played and should have beaten a Donegal team (that got promoted) a few years ago on the back of a bad result, when few would have given them even a sporting chance. They would probably be more up for a game with Mayo or Donegal, but I feel they need a home draw badly and that is pushing your luck somewhat. The three of us have had one home match, so somebody will be lucky and get another. Clare are deserving of a home tie this round. If we got Clare in Navan, it would be the most winnable matchup of the three, providing Meath improve and are not if any way complacent. Clare away would be a much tougher challenge, despite the league result. GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 02/07/2017 16:58:47 2009051 Link
Replying To GlasagusOr: "I remember when Meath played and should have beaten a Donegal team (that got promoted) a few years ago on the back of a bad result, when few would have given them even a sporting chance. They would probably be more up for a game with Mayo or Donegal, but I feel they need a home draw badly and that is pushing your luck somewhat. The three of us have had one home match, so somebody will be lucky and get another. Clare are deserving of a home tie this round. If we got Clare in Navan, it would be the most winnable matchup of the three, providing Meath improve and are not if any way complacent. Clare away would be a much tougher challenge, despite the league result." I actually think donegal at hone is the most winnable. They have a real chancer managing them and he's starting to get exposed. Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6342 - 02/07/2017 18:11:51 2009105 Link
Replying To Jinxie: "I actually think donegal at hone is the most winnable. They have a real chancer managing them and he's starting to get exposed." I tend to agree with that assessment royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 02/07/2017 18:29:11 2009116 Link
We're both coming from a similar place. A bad hammering and an ugly win, so who knows. Michael Murphy beat us on his own the last time he was in Navan. We owe them one! Good few Donegal, Mayo and even Clare folk in the county too. We have some history with Mayo in the championship and as recent as '09 in the qualifiers, so that is what I'm half expecting. GlasagusOr (Meath) - Posts: 1348 - 02/07/2017 18:41:48 2009122 Link
Replying To Jinxie: "I actually think donegal at hone is the most winnable. They have a real chancer managing them and he's starting to get exposed." Looking at it he mess there sat we have one as well. Reco (Meath) - Posts: 419 - 03/07/2017 13:57:51 2009628 Link
Replying To Reco: "Looking at it he mess there sat we have one as well." we won the game, dug it out,give over.. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 03/07/2017 15:23:04 2009706 Link