Dublin V Louth - What A Farce - 17 Like(s)
David Clifford is a teenager in Kerry. David gets up at 5:00 O clock every morning to walk the five miles every morning to get water, picking up fire wood along the way. David carefully balances the water on his head and fire wood on his knees to bring home so Mammy can have a nice cup of tea and a bit of toast (no avocado).
After Mammy has had her toast, )without avocado). David goes out to the fields, David runs for miles to catch mountain goats for milk for his whole family, David likes how they sometimes put the crown on the goat. Winters are harsh in Kerry, and David often has to have his hood up on on his holey jacket. While he is growing into Daddy's wellies nicely. David often wishes that Mammy liked cornflakes instead of tea and toast (without avocado ) for her breakfast.
David then goes to school, David is very tired by now, but the hole in the roof often keeps him awake and the rain helps him keep a perfect quiff, because the wet look is in around Killarney.
David walks the 20 miles home from school every day, often having to be careful of the Paddywhacker buses that pass him by. David is sometimes splashed by these buses as they drive by and looks up to see Dublin people drinking Champagne and designer coddle int their heated seats. David would like to taste coddle just once. David sometimes wishes he was from Dublin too.
David used to walk home from school with his favorite friends, Mark and Steffen, they arent there anymore and he sometimes sees them at the Christmas nativity play and Goat crown day in the summer, they have big red faces and look bigger and stronger, David thinks they may have moved from Toast (no avocado) to cornflakes for their breakfasts.
Davids favorite colors are green and yellow, he remembers seeing a big shining milking jug one time when he was very small. David though of how much milk he put into that if he could catch a goat. When David has his homework done, David climbs three mountains and 100 miles to play football with his friends. The manager told him if he plays very well he can get the big shiny goat milk jug. David likes this and will play very very hard. David is beginning to grow into Daddys boots. Davids favorite part of football is the oranges they get after training, it helps David on the return journey up and down mountains.
David curls up at night in a corner of the room, sometimes there is an ember from the coal in the fire, he can keep warm for a little bit. David will be up again in three hours, to get the water and firewood for Mammys team and toast again (no avocado). David often dreams of Bernard Brogan, David wishes he can play football like Bernard. David believes that Bernard does not have to play football with a beach ball and has boots that fit him.
If you would like to help to help David grow into his boots, please send a minimum of 1 mill euro to Kerry GAA, in donation, 7 mill if dealing in tax payers money. You can also but a chicken dinner from 2000 euro a plate. Please contact The Plaza New York for more details. Please help us provide cornflakes or avocado for David and his toast.
This has been an appeal from Kerry GAA.
* Played to Eva Cassidys fields of gold.
TheUsername (National) - 02/06/2019 14:19:18
Dublin V Roscommon - 11 Like(s)
Well now an eventful day the far side of the Shannon all in.
Just in the door an absolute blizzard between Kinnegad and Maynooth and a good hours tail back through the toll and another hour the far side given the snowy condititions, a couple of tips I saw on the road hopefully everyone gets back safely. All grand considering the wash out we got before and during the game that had poler bears reaching for their under armor base layers.
As you can probably guess the game was played in very poor, wet conditions with a fair nip and sodden pitch. Hyde is looking well these days, it's one of my favourate county away grounds fair play to the Roscommon county board.
On to the game itself, Dublin made some late changes with young lads like, McGowen, O Connor, Basquel coming into replace the more established players. The master came in for young Comerford. Young Gavin continued in the middle. While we lost Jack early on so Robbie McDaid played the majority of the game. So a fair bit of youth and inexperience to complement some established lads.
Roscommon look a different animal this year, gone is the niceness and open expansive stuff. A team with real edge, fight and bite to match. The played a hybrid system overall at times the blanket and at times a pocession based game waiting for their opening and high pressing.
Dublin stormed out of the blocks early on taking over some straight forward points and shortly scored a goal that had an inevitable feel of a rout in the first 25 mins or so. The game got tough then and every ball was contested fiercely, there were tackles flying in that you would proud of playing Rugby and the ref let some mad stuff go in my opinion. In the last quarter Roscommon bullied Dublin in my opinion who had taken their eye of the ball, were rattled and Roscommon went on to get a goal and wipe away the point deficit to go in all square deservedly at half time. Deservedly so in my opinion, though the ref lost control of the game and anything was going, at that stage. But Roscommon used a brilliant tactic on the Dublin defense the flooded and had a decoy on Cian Sullivan that let them have a man over on Dublin's marking system, making total hay in the last quarter of the first half.
Roscommon had the better of the start of the second and went two up in third quarter with Dublin hitting bad wides. As we hit the 50 mun mark, something really unusual happened. Roscommon started to play keep ball and hold pocession, go down injured etc. It was weird because the momentum was with them and had the opposite effect of inviting Dublin on to them and handing the, the innitive. Dublin duly obliged and even with the most ridiculous wide count I have seen from Dublin in many a year, they got the couple of points to draw level, that brought back Dublin's composure, in the next phase we got what looked like a fortuitous goal and it was normal service resumed of just shooting out the lights. The game descended into a bit of farce then of lads just taking lumps. Overall glad to be leaving with two points, no suspensions and hopefully what looks like just a minor injury for Jack.
Was the worst referee performance I think I've seen in a long time, Dublin got mangled in the first half and couldn't buy a free, while every minor call went Roscommons way. That really effected the game as a footballing spectacle as it dawned on both sides that anything could go and was more like Rugby then football. Then the whole thing went full circle in the second half, I thought he clearly favored Dublin, the cynic in me wondered did he get tap on the shoulder about his performance at half time. Anyway he didn't help the game for ethier side.
Roscommon are a different outfit this year, tough as teak, with huge edge and massively physical and competitive. I suspect the days of give me quarter finals without lumps are a thing of the past and any team playing them should be prepared for rigour and lumps. They played some nice stuff as well as they always have. But this is a new Roscommon, with edge.
As for Dublin, wasn't vintage but hard fought. Some young lads playing and being blooded left us a bit soft. Positives for me were Davey Byrne again, proper defender. Daren Gavin had a shaky opening 15 mins, but was great in the other three quarters, could be a super midfielder, but a way to go yet, but getting better and better per week. Cian after the wobbles had a good game. Fenton was Fenton, class. But he must have hit at least 5 wides. Thought McDaid looked good in spells.
Thought Cooper had a tough day at the office, Paddy Andrews endevoured but left his shooting boots at home and was a bit indulgent at times. Costello had one of those anonymous games, as did the rest of the forwards first half, bar King Con.
All in all, delighted to get the far side of Leixlip with two points, no serious injuries and no suspensions via a tough day in the office, but a stretch in the legs and ongoing blooding so all good.
Hope everyone got home safely.
Next up Tyrone in Croker on Paddy's weekend, spectacle!
TheUsername (National) - 03/03/2019 20:31:40
Posters Crossing The Line - 11 Like(s)
Shocking to be fair, I hope the poster sees the error of their ways.
I'll say prayer for them then grab my pitch fork. :D
TheUsername (National) - 04/06/2019 22:54:50
Dublin V Louth - What A Farce - 9 Like(s)
If you read back over all my posts a chara, you will see that 1) i mention more then once i was posting about GDF and 2) acknowledging that Dublin dwarf most counties on commercial and fundraising. You will actually find quite a detailed post about it and how it enables fundraising at club level.
I will pull you up on a few details though, while GDF does fluctuate it tends to marginally, Monaghan will always do well and will Leitrim to their scale because they are being supplemented for a handicap in a lack of population, for them to be competitive, i dont have problem with that investment. Its a very similar payment structure particularly for Monagahn and Leitrim year on year. In many ways they are like Dublin, exceptional cases when it comes to funding due to population, while our population is big and requires more funding, yours is small and requires more funding. Its economies of scale really. In actual fact this is the first year since 2012 Dublin GDF hasnt been cut.
The examples you pick arent particularly apt, Longford, Loais wont be generally comparative to Monaghan as im not sure you aware, these counties are given an extra 500k over the next few years on top of their annual GDF, in order for them to compete in Leinster with Dublin. In essence what the GAA are trying to do, is bring the counties up to a comparative level in relation to their context.
I agree with you wholly on commercial and fundraising revenue, Dublin are a beast and will only get bigger and better, no county will ever compete with it. In many ways the GDF is a straw horse as none of it goes toward the inter county set up, the inter county set up if funded by commercial and fundraising with change left over. I've no issue there really. In fact i think this could be improved and will be in the future. i was having a debate earlier on the the differences in equality and equity, its fascinating how it could apply to the GAA on a communal level.
I think you would be surprised just how well other counties do commercially/fundraising, you use an unfortunate example of Mayo, who are second to Dublin by 100k of Dublins 1.4 mill annually. mayo pull in 1.3 in commercial and fundraising, that is really good. As for attracting multinational companies, i dont think Dublin are alone, i think Kerry group are something like being in the top 10 biggest companies in the world and are certainly compatible to AIG. Sometimes being Irish, doesnt always necessarily mean we have to small and parochial, though seems esteemed somehow in traditional GAA. Arent Monaghan, sponsored by Investec, they are a South African company and provide banking, asset management and financial products in the Irish market. Sound like anyone elses sponsors?
I can sympathise with the sprit you are trying to post with, but you are posting in narrative all you are doing is throwing accusations around without producing and evidence or source, ultimately your just venting and why should we believe what you are saying when there is nothing to back it up, just because you are saying it? I've given, figures, ive given analysis, ive posted sources. All you are really saying is this cant be true. Why should i believe you?
I wholly acknowledge funding is both cumulative, capital, GDF and Commercial/fundraising. Ive said i dont know how many times we have the best enabling sponsorship. Ive given breakdown of figures from the GAA audited accounts.
Im not really sure what your saying, i just dont know there is very little to back it up, bar trust me this is my opinion.
TheUsername (National) - 29/05/2019 17:45:03
Kerry V Dublin - 9 Like(s)
That's genetics for you!
TheUsername (National) - 17/02/2019 16:44:09
Leinster - Now A Hurling Province? - 8 Like(s)
To be fair a team outside of Leinster hasnt won a football All Ireland since 2014.
TheUsername (National) - 26/03/2018 12:39:32
Dublin V Louth - What A Farce - 8 Like(s)
Thanks for that post a chara, i was finding it a bit hard to find a salient peice of the points you are trying to make. So GDF can be acknowledged and put to bed.
I dont actually disagree with anything you posted and you will find i acknowledge the enabling factor of commercial revenue, Dublin are a behemoth commercially in the waters it swims in, historically we have been remedial in that regard given our massive potential and its only now we are beginning to realise it. I've said a few times on here i actually think we could do better but suspect we will grow into that. Commercial revenue runs the Dublin team, i would totally acknowledge that and i would also acknowledge we have more then anyone else and always will. I only see that gap getting bigger personally. My issue is the narrative, speaking about GDF and the grassroots and acerbating that influences the senior team.
I would also advise that what commercial revenue enables is the Dublin clubs the ability to fundraise without the county board interfering, its developed the game hugely in Dublin both North and South.
I can understand why other counties look on with envy and perhaps enmity. That said you have to consider the scale of Dublin and the logistics to make it happen? I wonder can the model be learned from and used elsewhere on a smaller scale?
Perhaps in time the GAA may need to look and the financial hybrid model is has, its communal funding and private funding, while we are seeing the advent of players trying to take money out of their profile of the game commercially, testimonials, punditry, books etc. Perhaps the GAA need to decide whether it want sto remain a communal organisation, a decentralized one were counties look after themselves privately and what to do about players cashing in on their profiles. They are all broad and soul searching questions in my opinion. It would be hard to shut the barn door for every county with money rolling in and contracts signed, the GAA themselves have their own core sponsors and commercial revenue.
Is it impossible for other counties to adapt, you mention Mayo again, they raise 500k odd through commercial sponsorship, the same again through caride maigh eo and the rest in fundraising - so its not impossible.
Again i think counties may be slowly trying to emulate Dublin, ive seen many counties put adverts out there for commercial mangers or fundraisers in the last 12 months in particular, its clearly an area counties are looking to cultivate.
To be fair i think you raise some very good points and as we have got to the bottom of it are opinion are more in congruence, ive said all along in this thread that our commercial revenue is a hige enabling factor for the work we do with our senior team.
Wouldn't be a huge fan of Clones of myself, no offense intended as i know many are, in my defense its usually the depths of winter when im there, i would much prefer Breffni if im being honest. I think its due a bit of remedial work to the tune of 400k odd in the coming time.
As you say, there is a huge expat population in Dublin, that generations of will probably benefit Dublin and with increased profile of Gaelic games, when this great team ends we will regress somewhat, but wont be away for long. Certainly for once in our history we are cultivating many of our natural advantages.
TheUsername (National) - 30/05/2019 15:34:51
Kerry V Dublin - 8 Like(s)
Maeve's development funding 2019
Kerry GDF 197.600 euro, population of Kerry 147.000, ratio = 1.34 euro per head.
Dublin GDF 1.3 mill, population 1.34 mill, ratio = 97 cent per head.
* Before Kerry provincial grant is given.
Kerry really have been a poor investment by the GAA, in particular when you compare them to similar counties backgrounds namely Mayo and Donegal, who fare worse. Galway and Down again really should be up in arms!
TheUsername (National) - 16/02/2019 17:05:07
Dublin V Louth - What A Farce - 8 Like(s)
Actually if you had your Dublin hat on, we are often accused of two advantages of money and population. The funny thing with the registered player to finance argument, is one discounts the other. If you want to prove Dublin are over funded, you have to cut the population to 39k. If you want to prove population is advantage then, you have to use my analysis of population to per head of 1.345mill to GDF. One discounts the other really, its funny really.
TheUsername (National) - 29/05/2019 11:40:18
Dublin V Louth - What A Farce - 7 Like(s)
There's five minor wins, and there's no need to be afraid
Cluxton retires, we let in light and banish shade
And in our world of plenty of goosoons, we can spread a smile of joy
Throw your arms around the world
Its Kerry's time.........................
TheUsername (National) - 02/06/2019 16:57:05
Dublin Stars Pocketing €6,000 For Promotional Gigs - 7 Like(s)
I'm not opposed to the mindset this creates, to be honest, 17 mill in games development money, multi millions in sponsorships and perks, all games at home, now traveling to training, world class facilities, players retiring to focus on their sporting careers.
Come and play us, the fear or belief in these facets create another advantage, a lot of teams are beaten before they leave the dressing room believing these facets, whether they be true or not, they've rolled over in their heads and best the knee in their minds before they put on their county shirt. Read the match thread for tomorrow's game, Kildare are beaten before they even get to the ground.
These articles just add to the aura and pepuatute the fear and undermines teams playing against us, keep them rolling.
TheUsername (National) - 08/06/2019 21:51:26
Conor Cox Kerry Mistake - 7 Like(s)
Yep, think Kerry dropped a clanger here, you can have your Clifford's and Geaney etc. But panel management is about competition internally to raise standards. Externally you need as strong a panel as you can muster and depth.
Dublin could afford, to give Dean Rock, the night off yesterday, Bernard Brogan too and with Paul Mannion sent off Dublin still racked up scores the far side of 30 points. With still lads looking in the managers face to come on.
Kerry aren't good enough, to be sending lads of the caliber of Cox out into the wilderness, they had really poor scoring stats from play during the league final, while the excellent O Shea and his free taking abilities have papered over the cracks at times in the forward line at times, his gifts can be a blessing and a curse. While outside of Munster that's been a regular feature in the championship for at least the last three years.
Think they will regret loosening Cox in all honesty, he'd be on the Dublin panel for sure.
TheUsername (National) - 26/05/2019 22:04:45
Stephen Cluxton - 7 Like(s)
The inland boundary went to Naas and Leixlip around the Earldom of Kildare, towards Trim and north towards Kells."]Thanks mate, not sure what your on about and choosing to think the best, so thanks!"]Just educating you on where the pale is/was. Obviously lost on you."]Yeah, I'm just not having that conversation thanks.
TheUsername (National) - 13/06/2018 23:01:31
The pinnacle of cute Kerry h***r*sm - 7 Like(s)
Not sure what any of this has to with Dublin, a bit miffed by the strength of that reaction.
Just dont point though you are wrong on the grants given here:
The Central council and Munster council gave the facility one million each for the COE = 2million
Sponsorship: Kerry Group = 1million
Sports Council = 7 million to facility in Tralee.
I dont particularly have a problem with any of that, but the poor mouth narrative that often comes from Kerry is not really reflective of reality especially in comparison to other counties and what they get. You dont really have any financial adversity or anything to do without.
I acknowledge we dont really have significant issues in funding in Dublin either and its not about that, though it would take us a good number of years to accumulate the above in games development grants.
The victim narrative isnt really fitting when it comes to Kerry in my opinion, you get as much funding then anyone and better then almost everyone.
I can understand based on the above why another poster may have raised this as an issue.
TheUsername (National) - 17/01/2018 14:20:06
Kerry V Dublin - 7 Like(s)
Back in the home Vikings. Open discourse i spent the best part of the week down there, hit Castlebar island on Weds and caught up with some pals I met traveling in NZ. Stayed out there Weds and we did a lesuirely trek of Ivergh pensulla on Thurs and Fri, featuring two memeromable nights out in Waterville and Glenbeigh, met some really interesting GAA people steeped in Kerry GAA history and folklore, even got to have a kick about on two or three club pitches. Some fascinating conversations, not least with an 85 year old man in Sneem, god it's embarrassing to think we actually try to understand the game on here listeningc to this guy, such wisdom and lived expierence in the GAA.
Much needed fri, in Killarney on Sat before an all day job in Tralee, game then back to Killarney for the night, leisure Sunday and light evening refreshments then home. I'm sure no cares, the reason I mention it that traveling around a bit gave me an insight and to be honest a bit of a shock into how hurt people are in Kerry and how much this current teams success means to them, it's like a yearning need or a reassurance of realavance.
It's quite amazing the missing out on their five in a row, still is very raw, they know they should have done it, but are equally very proud and rightly so of their four, it's not nice that anyone has equaled that never mind having the opportunity of five. That's not criticism everyone I met down there wished Dublin luck. More sense of what should have been and wishing it had been, or close to being done by themselves. It's irrelevent at this stage because Dublin will have to earn it.
The above hasnt been helped by two seasons of limits in their own teams and to be honest, that was the biggest hurt I picked up, Kerry should not be beaten convincingly by Mayo, Galway, or need a last minute scramble against Monaghan to keep a breath of life in a championship campaign.
My sense is there is a lot of hurt in the Kingdom, built up over years, opposing forces of another team matching and having an opportunity to over take some of their historic greatness, while in current context struggling to maintain their own standards and expectations in the Championship.
But hope springs eternal and plenty of it at play in the fields of Kerry, the green shoots are coming and their was a Wryersmileon Sun then their was on Fri.
As I said all of the above, was all conveyed in great spirit, sport, banter and honesty, the vast majority of people you meet in places in Kerty are welcoming, gracious and great hosts, fantastic GAA people, despite the messing you see on here, I hope they are back in sunny days deep in Summer, in Dublin 3 soon.
go raibh maith agat
TheUsername (National) - 11/02/2019 19:16:17
Joanne Cantwell - 7 Like(s)
Shes great, i really like her. Also its refreshing to break up the old pals act and driving of agendas.
The pundits on RTE have to much influence on the game in my opinion, talk about the tail wagging the dog.
Sort them Joanne.
TheUsername (National) - 04/02/2019 10:51:53
Dublin V Louth - What A Farce - 7 Like(s)
Its reported in many media media outlets that it act as a strategic part of Kerry center of excellence, are you telling us Kerry GAA dont use it all?
The campus at Curran recied numerous grants 1 mill from Central funds, 1 mill from the Munster Council and Kerry group gave 1 mill as well.
If we are going to have a debate anout the influence of ISC grants, Cumlitive funding and the impact of sponsorship, lets at least be genuine. The tidy sums above are equivalent of a decade of Dublins GDF. I think its a loose definition to call 2000 euro a plate dinners in the Plaza in New York as fundraising.
Haha i must of missed those debunking posts, im not great at responding to posters who generally right in crayon or who i consider trolls admittedly.
Im not trying to win hearts and minds, someone will stick to narrative, because it helps to mitigate the uncomfortable thought that they have fallen short of the mark really. I dont mind the allegations of money really, it helps the auro around Dublin. I just dont believe its factual and am giving the context as to why.
TheUsername (National) - 30/05/2019 11:23:07
Pairc Ui Chaoimh - 6 Like(s)
I'd have a different opinion to be honest.
Its a huge capital outlay and it looks optimistic in terms of how they were going to manage it and poor they they didn't envisage an overspend.
But i actually admire the gumption to do this project and i really dont have a problem with the GAA now coming in and better supporting the project financially more then they have to this point.
Its a capital infrastructure profit, they inevitably have a deficit in the short term but long term it will pay for itself many times over over the next 100 years. Similar to Croke Park how many times will Croke Park pay for itself over the years.
The long term benefit of a marquee stadium in the biggest city in Munster is a vital aspiration in my opinion.
It should be the same in Connacht and Ulster, games beging funneled to Corke Park every year isnt good for anyone and each province should have the ability to host semi final games in my opinion and should be something the GAA should aspire to, plan and support.
The GAA needs to look at infrastructure and future proofing key provincial marquee facilitates as an attainable aspiration and i hope they learn from the experience at PUC and actually prompt a development plan around this.
As for the reporting on this when it comes to the quality of reporting on GAA fiance this is like so many sensationalist, very narrow and without proper analysis, just my opinion mind.
TheUsername (National) - 14/12/2018 13:21:52
Dubs Drive For 5 - Who Can Stop It? - 6 Like(s)
A string of teams could beat Dublin, Galway, Mayo, Donegal, Tyrone, Kildare, Monhaghan, Kerry.
Some of those teams will have a fresh approach next year under new management, some have supreme youth that will be augmented and added to.
Galway: will build on an exceptional year of getting to a league final and only drawing Dublin in the semi they would have likely contested a final. McDaid and Silke are returning and are seriously players, while Galway have good underage coming through.
Mayo: will be a different animal next year all the experience, rested, a new open expansive philosophy under Horan and the freshness that goes with that. The hipoe will be unearthing some new talent also.
Donegal: very underrated in my opinion, some of the best players in Ireland in Murphy, McHugh, EBG, Thompson and Murphey and McBrearty. More then put it up to Dublin in games last year and were very unlucky in the draw for the S8's.
Tyrone: All Ireland finalists, there or there abouts every year, if they can perfect their new system they will be a threat.
Kildare: Still maintain they are a top outfit, they utterly dominated the U20 championship this year making light work of almost everyone. Have an absolute super star in Hyland coming through in addition to other players on that team to add to an already capable All Ireland quarterfinal squad.
Monaghan, when are they not capable, will hope to build on a superb 2018.
Kerry: have one foot in the S8's already coming out of Munster so will always be confident. Have a dream forward line and a couple of players in Clifford and O Shea making most inter county teams. New manager so will be hopeful, they need a defensive system and a couple of midfielders in my opinion but always a threat. I think the GAA will try and push the Dublin Vs Kerry narrative next year its hugely marketable.
The thing about the above is its all a moving a target and we are judging things on how they were in 2018. In reality if you stand still you are left behind.
Dublin evolve every year and will bring something different next year, in tactics and set up if you watched the game Vs he underdogs Dublin never made more then two hand passes, i think they are well into preparation for the new rule. Dublin gave 7 championship debuts last year, i expect some of those lads to kick on through the league. I would also be confident of a field of potential 8 new players being in contention through the O Byrne cup, aiming for league mins and breaking the panel. As Scully, Murch, Howard and a few others have proven in recent years if you can prove yourself through this pathway you can crack the squad and team. Hopefully Bernard and Diarmuid Connolly can be added to the panel this year as well.
TheUsername (National) - 05/11/2018 14:02:23
Day Out In An Empty Croke Park - 6 Like(s)
I didnt go in for the first game but the Meath and Laois lads i was talking to after said it as quiet for the first game alright, the second game was different though when the Dubs and Kildare lads joined the party, good atmosphere with a full blue wall in the hill and full compliment of season ticket holders in the Cusack by the look of it.
The attendance yesterday was up 2k on last years double header at the same stage i believe.
TheUsername (National) - 10/06/2019 14:19:00