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Meath V Dublin - 23 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "Can't not start Conlon imo. If nothing more his runs will free up Newman, he is the only player that Dublin seem genuinely worried about. So yeah start him, definitely. It's all or nothing" how do you know who Dublin are/aren't worried about ?
you go on like this "In The Know" character on here. Nobody knows anything about what the Dublin management feel outside of the camp cause nothing gets out.
You have told this fantasy story about how some fella in the stand in PL was raving about James Conlon v Carlow
And you expect us to take your word on that ?
Have a day off dude! You chat absolute guff, nothing you say can be taken seriously.
waynoI (Meath) - 16/06/2019 13:58:49
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Meath V Dublin - 23 Like(s)
Replying To WhyTheLongFace: "is that not just one of the reason why Dublin are a good team that they can identify areas of a opposition that might trouble or worry them...Thing i like about Jim Gavin he treats every team with the same kind of respect be it london or kerry.You could learn a lot from Jim Gavin and drop the Conor McGregor attitude !" What are you even talking about ?
Im talking about RD thinking he is a guy with inside knowledge of everything, even the Dublin camp. Nobody on this forum from anywhere knows whats going on in the Dublin camp or can say Dublin genuinely fear anyone. Therefore everything out of RD's mouth is nonsense, like almost every single one of the points he makes. Lives in a fantasy world.
Of course Jim Gavin wont be taking Meath lightly, where did I say he would?
waynoI (Meath) - 16/06/2019 16:20:42
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Meath V Fermanagh - 21 Like(s)
RD it's mad how many thumbs down you get from your fellow county men
waynoI (Meath) - 21/03/2019 15:07:32
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Meath V Dublin - 20 Like(s)
Question.
Everyone knows what a win/narrow defeat will do for meath in terms of confidence going forward.
Meath have had a really good year and the progress has been clear for all to see, so what if Dublin dish out an absolute pasting.
What if Dublin start well, get a lead, as a result are drained of confidence, Dublin show no let up and win by upwards of 15 points. What affect does that have on yous as a fanbase but also to the team
waynoI (Meath) - 18/06/2019 16:38:09
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"Why Should Anybody Have The God-Given Right To See All Games On Television?" - 19 Like(s)
"Why should anybody have the God-given right to see all games on television? That was never the case back in the day and we all survived. Just because it's a luxury that's available nowadays and some people can pay for it, other people may choose not, and we'll all have the luxury of seeing highlights afterwards if we didn't go to the game."
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I don't think I've read something so spot on RE: televised games in all my life.
People might not like hearing it, but its true. Good man Mickey.
All this mumbo jumbo about the elderly who cant make it to the game, or people who cant afford it, or those in care homes etc, while its unfortunate and not nice that those people cant see their county play on tele, What about 30 or 40 years ago when there was one game a week if you were lucky?. How did the elderly, people who couldn't get to the game itself, or those in care homes manage to see their county back then ? They didn't.
And whats more, it only seems to be an issue talked about for the big games. What about followers of Sligo football for example ? Wicklow, Antrim football. The ulster and Connaught hurling teams ? None of their games were broadcast live to the elderly or those who couldnt afford to go to in Sligo, Wicklow, antrim etc. Nobody cared about them. Nobody was having a go at RTE/SKY etc for not showing Any Wicklow football games to the elderly in Bray or Greystones, those in Wicklow care homes that may want to watch their county.
The fact of the matter is this, There is more GAA games shown live/exclusively live now than ever before. Its impossible to please everyone. Its unfortunate but if for whatever reason you cant go the game and its not shown on tele, then that's just how it is. Some of us support other teams in other sports, we cant go to all their games, we cant watch them all on the box either, you don't hear other fans giving it socks about their organisations being a disgrace.
Its impossible to show every single inter county game on tele, and every single club game on tele. Impossible. But of course you have the cry-a**ing GAA people who moan and whinge and want everything for free, as if the whole organisation runs on monopoly money. Have a day off.
I drive a VW golf, and id love to buy a brand spanking new one in January, but I cant afford it. So I wont get one. Do I expect VW to just bend over and hand me one FOC cause I want one ? no. So why should we expect to be able to watch games for free on the telebox ? Where does this type of pathetic, entitlement come from ?
waynoI (National) - 06/08/2019 13:47:13
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Considered Opinion - 19 Like(s)
Replying To meath1977: "agree many Meath supporters on here and on here and on Facebook just want to knock our team. it didn't work well for us yesterday but the score board didn't show a true reflection. 2-17 to 1-12 would have been about right. we just paniced under pressure. we are just one game away from the super eights which if we could get there would be a great experience for this young team. it's hateful when you have to defend your county to your own county people which I am doing all day. fair play to you Mr Dunne your always positive about the Meath team" Of course the score is a true reflection of the game, Dublin took their chances on the day, Meath did not, and the score reflects that fact absolutely perfectly. Does it show how good Meath are though in general, probably not, because on another day, they score a few more, but by that logic, on another day, Dublin score a penalty, On another day jack McCaffrey maybe goes for goal instead of fisting it over the bar from 8 or 9 yards out and on another day, Dublin are absolutely flawless from the get go, and rack up a much bigger tally and up the gears early doors and really annihilate Meath, but the game wasn't played on another day and so you judge it on yesterday and yesterday Meath's performance ended in the result it deserved, and that was a 16 point defeat. IC level against the top teams can be a very, very sobering experience and it can turn ugly very quickly, especially when you aren't experienced in playing them top teams on a regular basis. Beating teams of a similar standard can make it seem like youre making bigger strides than what you actually are.
Speaking of reflections, is it *really* a mad coincidence that it didn't work yesterday against a top top team, Maybe yesterday when you look back, WAS a true indication that Meath just aren't ready for Dublin, despite the all the bravado and history lessons from certain posters were giving about putting it up to Dublin in the past. f you take a step back and actually analyse it in the cold light of day, what evidence was there pre match that Meath could really take a cut at Dublin ? Alot of it seemed to come from the heart and emotion of decades ago, saying teams in the distant past could, and how they would have this Meath heart and passion. Problem with that logic is tht they where much better Meath teams, but more to the point, This version of Dublin under Jim Gavin aren't just the best Dublin team of all time, they're arguably the best gaelic football team of all time. - Put Dublin of very recent times up against a Meath team who hadn't played a D1 team in Croke Park since the last time they played Dublin in 2016 (when they lost by 10 points), Who hadn't played in a Leinster final since 2014 (which also resulted in a 16pt defeat), A team who 12 months ago lost to Longford in Leinster and this year beat three D3 sides to get to the final - should anyone really have expected anything but a very comfortable Dublin win ?
If you want, you can go further and add to the equation this Dublin teams experience of winning games, The fact that since Meath last beat Dublin in 2010, we won 6 all Irelands out of 8, including the last four. Weve consistently played the rest of the top teams in Ireland, home and away in the league - and won. Any mental baggage of that defeat in 2010 has long been forgotten, None of them care about losing to Meath. Then turn it around, Apart from G.Reilly, how many of that Meath team have never mind beaten Dublin, but been in a competitive game against them ? Up until yesterday, When did Meath last play in front of a crowd of 47,000 ? Expecting that current Meath team to rock up and scare Dublin was pie in the sky stuff. Its like hoping an army of one can go to battle with a plastic knife and beat an army of 100 with fully loaded Ak47s and sub machine guns.
waynoI (Meath) - 25/06/2019 00:01:30
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Meath V Dublin - 19 Like(s)
Replying To Marara: "The point he is making Waynol is that GAA is different to all the examples you have listed above. The vast majority of the posters on this forum would have an affinity to their local club, whether that's playing, coaching, involved in organizing or even just as a regular spectator.
The thing about the vast majority of Hill 16 and it's occupants any day Dublin are playing is that there is very little difference in them and soccer fans in the premier league. Their involvement in football consists of putting their jersey on, going for pints etc stand on the terrace and sing songs, few more pints and away home. And the next time they see an O'Neill's ball not on TV is the next time dublin are playing.
My club is full of people from all over the country due to the proximity to Dublin and jobs. GAA people get involved in GAA. Doesn't have to be their club or located in their county and that's the simple point that was being made to you and you so clearly never picked up on.
Now go and make sure you have your Dublin jersey washed and ironed for Sunday! :)" Even if that is the point that RD is making (or anyone for that matter), it's total snobbery. What gives someone who is involved with a club a right to judge someone else who isnt. There are a lot of "real GAA people" with serious superiority complexes. People who will look down their nose at you for even daring to call themselves a GAA fan despite not being involved in the local club.
So what if there is very little difference between Dublin fans on hill 16 (which is a ridiculous generalization in anycase) and premier league soccer fans (the vast, vast majority of those who are absolutely impeccably behaved all season). Yet more snobbery. For what it's worth, I've seen and heard some absolutely abhorrent abuse directed towards players at county grounds all over the country from intoxicated people wearing their club colours, would they be an example of "real GAA people" because they're part of a club ? (One of the worst cases of which was in the mayo v Kerry semi final of 2017, which, I went to as a neutral where a group of young Kerry lads where giving aidan o shea dogs abuse while smoking weed with cans they snuck in, while some were in their Dr Crokes gear)
Watch the Sunday game all summer and you'll see groups of young men and women clearly out of their bins on drink, infact, I'd go as far as to say that over the course of 3 months of the summer, versus 9/10 months of watching premier league football youre likely to see more groups of Neanderthal gobshites acting up watching the Sunday game on RTE v super Sunday on SKY. It's actually disgusting how "real GAA people" act as if they are the salt of the earth and how the premier league/soccer in general is full of idiot supporters. From my experience of premier league fans, it's actually the complete opposite, the gaa fans are the morons.
I digress, What I do with my time and money is my business, what anyone does with their time and money is their Business. If not being a part of the local club doesn't make me a true gaa fan then fine by me, I'm not fussed.
I am a supporter of Dublin. I've missed a handful of games in the last 15 years, I travel and have spent thousands watching Dublin home and away, I've missed alot of work time with no pay to travel to watch Dublin, I've never ever gone into a Dublin game locked, and I'll have a pint or two after the summer games or on away days when I'm staying down the country. I still pay a membership to a north Dublin club, I go to alot of Dublin club games as a neutral when I'm not in work, i pay 140euro a year to the county board for my season ticket and I'll go the game on Sunday and have a few post game pints with the lads in the city centre.
I will have my Jersey ready for Sunday, just like I've had it ready for every single game this year and will have it ready going forward.
I think alot of real GAA people could do with losing the holier than thou attitude.
And even after Alllllllllllll that, it still has no relevance to my question, why dont all Irish people live in Ireland, should all Irish people in Australia not just live in castlebar, castleknock etc ?
waynoI (Meath) - 19/06/2019 16:14:54
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Meath V Dublin - 18 Like(s)
Replying To Crinigan: "Very insecure. Might have some issues as apparently he lives in Meath. Why doesn't he just live in Dublin?" Why doesn't every Polish person live in Poland?, Why doesn't every Kerry person live in Kerry etc. Why doesn't every Irish person live in Ireland ? Ehhhh Reckon money has a bit to do with it as a starting point.
waynoI (Meath) - 18/06/2019 11:54:03
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Meath V Dublin - 18 Like(s)
Replying To southmeathgael: "Great little player, but the dubs won't mark him any different to anyone else, they'll just cut off the supply into him, that's what they do, Lord possession, get numbers back to protect full back line....he will be living off scraps unfortunetely" exactly this.
very talented, you have to be to get into a senior ic team at 20.
But Dublin will be sayin, don't stop him when he has the ball, don't allow him to get it in the first place.
what you say is exactly how I see it going, Dublin will own the ball, Meath will try keep it tight, Newman and conlon will be totally isolated, Dublin will sweep up every attack, will have very few wides themselves, be economical in possession, manage the game, and dispose of the meath challenge like they've disposed of most challenges in the past 5 years.
All the chat about Meath starting well and trying to make Dublin worry, fine, do it... Noone will be worrying, Weve gone 0-06 to 0-01 down in an all Ireland final last year against a much better team, and comfortably battered them. We conceded 3 goals v Kerry in 2013 in the first half of an all Ireland semi final, came back and beat them. We where 4 down in an all Ireland final a few years ago against Mayo midway through the second half and beat them. These lads will expect a fast Meath start, and wont be swayed by conceding a goal.
Just like the league final against Donegal, If meath get a good lead, Dublin will just keep believing in the process. How will Meath react if they concede a goal or two early doors though, when was the last time they came up against a top D1 team in the summer in croke park ? you may be running around like rabid dogs for the first 20 minutes, you might throw a few digs, act the tough lads, but the dubs are far far too streetwise for that carry on. And my confidence stems from watching Dublin all year every year home and away, and the fact there is no way jim gavin wont give Meath his and his teams, time. Dublin will learn more about Meath in 2 weeks than any ordinary match going fan like myself, RD etc would learn in a couple of months.
For all the talk about being ready for Dublin, the best team of all time will be more than ready too
waynoI (Meath) - 17/06/2019 14:28:57
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Considered Opinion - 18 Like(s)
Replying To GerryD: "Perspective:
Growing up close to the Meath border in the 90's, we had to endure the sight of proud Meath men from Meathhill, Drumconrath and further afield marching on our terrain on errands in to Carrickmacross. I sometimes felt they did so just to show off their proud attire to their downtrodden neighbours. They overtook our pubs and nightclubs with more Meath jerseys than Monaghan on display - often with more success in Billy Brennan's barn too!! The local schools were thronged with happy Meath folk and we dare not cross the border in the Summer months as there was only so much yellow and green fertiliser bags wrapped around a telegraph pole we could take!!!
More recent years has seen this trend reverse in our local town. The proud Farney folk have fought back and damned the Meath and Cavan jerseys to the backbenches! We found our new found fame quite satisfying….we got our Monaghan back!! But in the past few week - there's been a noticeable re-emergence of the green and gold colour around home. A recent trip to Navan and regular trips up the N2 to Dublin witnessed a new found pride in the Meath colours (although not a fertiliser bag to be seen!). It was refreshing and drowned out the odd persistent horrible navy and blue alternative that dared to rear its head!!
Look - we all have a duty for our next generation to restore pride in our respective county. I came home from Clones last Saturday evening battered and bruised but equally as proud to see the disappointment in my kids faces. God forbid they chose Brogan or Cluxton as their hero over McManus or Beggan - just because the media loves to push them that little bit more…but let's not go there. So while your pride might be dinted after Sunday - Meath are on an upward curve. You have to buy in to that. You need to invest in it. I've followed Meath club football for years and I know that your time is coming.
You have my absolute permission to cross the border to Carrick thronged in yellow and green on the absolute condition that common order will have been restored and Meath football will have found its voice again to drown out the common enemy of blue and navy… who's name we dare not mention…#notVoldemort" Awh.
This is cute xxx
waynoI (Meath) - 28/06/2019 00:13:59
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Meath V Dublin - 18 Like(s)
Replying To cabbage: "I think we have a decent chance. If I had to bet my house on the outcome; sure, I think Dublin are more likely. But if we could get 2+ goals ourselves and stop the dubs from scoring one themselves, you never know. If Mayo can continually put it up to them why shouldn't we be able to.
The longer a team's winning streak goes on, the closer they are to it finally being broken!" cause mayo have far more about them and were plying their trade at the top table of league football consistently with an experienced squad who had won all Ireland quarter finals and semi finals, and had some much better footballers than Meath, and for all that, despite outplaying us most of the time in those games, how many did they win ? They haven't beaten Dublin in league or championship since 2012, and this is a mayo team who at their peak were far superior to any Meath team ive seen in the last … 15 years or so.
Meath can get stuck in, But I just don't see a world where Meath are good enough. I respect the lads on here who say Meath have a chance and all that stuff, no point in not believing, the players will believe but then so will almost every team who come up against Dublin believe that they can beat us, it means nothing, Dublin generally just swat them aside.
Dublins run is coming to an end, indeed youre right, with every win, were closer to defeat, but its not coming this sunday. I expect Dublin to beat the handicap again and then I expect Meath to reach the super 8s
waynoI (Meath) - 17/06/2019 12:18:02
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Meath V Dublin - 18 Like(s)
Replying To bobkarlgees: "Your right about 100 All-Irelands this 80 leinsters that. Ok meath Players are way off the mark there, But in 2000 Meath where All-Ireland Champions from 99 and offaly beat first game it was a early exit for Meath. big shock but all the the Irleands we had and Leinsters counted for feck all that day. we where out as it was back then. Similarly Louth got within a point of us in 98 squeaked through that day with Meath Legend like Fay gearthy giles etc. all playing. So minute you start we with have more All-ireland there for we cant not lose its a dodgy path." Stop putting words in my mouth.
I listed reasons as to why Dublin are 1/50 on in the bookies and was using the medals more as a reason why Dublin being such heavy favourites is logical.
waynoI (Meath) - 20/06/2019 13:36:26
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Meath V Dublin - 17 Like(s)
Replying To Meathmaverick: "Wayno what is your deal lad ? why do you feel the need to come on here and dissect every post.
You obviously know your football and can be hilarious with some of your posts but jesus in your last few posts on here come across unbelievably arrogant.
On one hand you say you respect that some meath fans believe we can win but then you go onto basically belittle any post that suggests meath have a chance.
I do understand there are some delusional meath fans here and i agree with you on the over the top building up of conlon but this is a forum so there is obvioulsy going to be 100s of different opinions varying from sensible to bizarre.
Myself i dont think Meath have much hope on Sunday, I think we'll struggle to cover the handicap but i'll still be there. and from now until then the old romantic in me will try and find a way of Meath beating the Dubs in my head.
Of course you as well are entitled to your opinion on Sunday and im not knocking that , Its more the arrogance of the posts and the condescending attitude towards the hope of others. All comes across very imperialistic." Well, Dublin are playing Meath, so it is the best time to come on a Meath forum and get a feel for how Meath fans feel.
I wasn't trying to be arrogant, I was just giving a realistic assessment from my POV and from reading back I can see how it comes across as arrogant. I think youll find its the delusional posts I get back to though. You have actually replied to me and basically said you agree with everything I say, apart from it coming across as imperialistic, that wasn't my intention. So apologies for how it came across.
waynoI (Meath) - 18/06/2019 11:47:14
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O Byrne Cup 2019 - 17 Like(s)
Replying To Richieq: "Wayne you call call them a third team, back up reserves, Dublin light whatever you want it still doesn't mask the fact that last night Meath played 15 odd footballers who were playing at "ahem" home, mad to make an impression and stake a claim in the squad come league and championship, we wouldn't have faced such eagerness if we played the normal Dublin starting 15. I do not see defeat last night as a cause for alarm bells as some Meath supporters have, we have a lot of new players cutting their teeth and established players trying to shake off the effects of some scarring defeats in recent years but I like the approach being taken and an optimistic of a relatively decent year, I am also heartened by our recent underage successes which have included victories over Dublin etc so we aren't going to throw ourselves overboard on the basis of last nights game, we are well aware of the work needed and our position in the football world, defeat last night makes that position no worse than before the game." like i said its only an obc game so yeah wouldn't be overly stressed out if i was a Meath fan, all im saying is considering the advantages meath had over dublin in terms of training in their legs, more game time (3 games to dublins 0) therefore more experience or the new rules, a stronger starting team etc, i expected Meath to win comfortably especially when they where 1-04 to 0-02 up, and while you dont write the whole season off based on an obyrne cup game in January, id be a bit downheartened by that, but some are glass half empty kinda people and some are glass half full. each to their own.
i agree alot of dublin guys would have gone out trying to prove a point, but then so did Meaths lads especially the forward players. The defence was strong in personnel anyways. And it doesnt matter how hard the dublin lads where trying to prove a point, theyre still 3rd string you cant get away from that just cause theyre trying to prove a pt. Thats kinda the whole idea of lads trying to make it... theyll work hard
waynoI (Meath) - 13/01/2019 11:29:40
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Meath V Dublin - 17 Like(s)
Replying To royaldunne: "Yeah but did you integrate into local club? I live in Westmeath and are very much involved in the local club." Oh right so if you live in an area you've to be associated with that club do you ? Is that all sports in that area or what ? Do you associate with you local soccer rugby gaa golf etc etc club? Do you go to league of Ireland games for your most local club ?
Why do you live in westmeath ? Why dont you move back home ? Serious question. You're living in a neighbouring county just like I am but support the one you're from.
The question I was asked is why do I live in meath, I also asked a question to cringan, yourself or anyone else, why do all polish people not live in Poland. Why dont all Irish people live in Ireland. Should we send all the Irish people in America, London, Asia, Australia etc home ?
Where I live has nothing to do with talking about the football, I'm certainly not insecure about living in meath, I do get more insecure when people try to have cheap little digs about my resident and circumstances around it.
waynoI (Meath) - 18/06/2019 14:37:26
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Meath V Dublin - 17 Like(s)
Replying To seanboylansdonkey: "It begs the question, Why open up Croke Park for the Dubs when they can no longer fill it." Players would rather play there.
waynoI (Meath) - 19/06/2019 16:15:45
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Meath V Dublin - 17 Like(s)
Replying To gwanyagudthing: "The closer it gets to Sunday, the more optimistic I'm getting. There is no pressure on Meath - league promotion under their belts and another shot at the super 8s no matter what happens. All the talk is of how much they will get beaten by. It's a win - win situation or as Andy Mac has been saying "a free shot". Dublin on the other hand are on the drive for 5 and anything less than a handsome win will be regarded as regression. Don't tell me that the Dublin players are not privately thinking about when the run in Leinster will end and the fact that they are always just one match away from it. Meath have never been bigger odds to win a game of football which makes no sense when you think of the progress we've made in the last couple of years. And you know what? I really don't care if i'm completely wrong because for the first time in a long time everything is on the up - we're in Div 1 next year and we'll have a stronger panel at our disposal. Others might say I'm being unrealistic but i just call it optimism and its the vibe i'm getting from the management and players - they're in the right frame of mind to give it a lash." 1) no issues with you being optimistic. Good on ya. Of course there is no pressure on Meath. I don't agree its win win though, get an absolute drubbing and I wouldn't be so sure your players will recover mentally from that to play potentially Monaghan/Tyrone/Mayo, a decent calibre of team basically, could be wrong though, we will see should that play out how Meath react.
2) With respect If you, as a Meath man, are hoping Dublin, a team who are serial winners, Who have had the bottle and the experience to win every close championship game they've played in recent memory including the biggest of games, all Ireland finals, will feel a bit of pressure about a loss coming either this year or next in a competition weve won 13 years out of 14, then youre seriously, seriously clutching at straws
3) There is a reason why Meath have never been bigger odds to win a game of football and it makes total sense. If Dublin start the game the same as they did v Kildare with maybe rock coming in, they'll start with 180 medals (all Irelands, Leinsters, allianz leagues) between them, The Meath team will likely have zero. Dublin have beaten every opponent in the province and beaten the handicap which this weekend is -12, over the past 3 or 4 years, all by double figures. Dublin are going for 5 all Irelands in a row, Meanwhile Meath haven't played a D1 team in Croke Pk in the championship since, 2016, when Dublin beat them by 10 pts. The bookies are neutral, They aren't interested in supporting one team or the other, and they don't give Meath much hope, most of the country don't give Meath much hope and the reasons behind why are completely logical.
waynoI (Meath) - 20/06/2019 12:18:48
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Meath V Dublin - 17 Like(s)
Replying To Jack_Goff: "So the GAA is ran by the players now? We all know it's in Croker because the administrators is a want it. It's a leinster final between meath and Dublin so it absolutely makes sense but it's not in Croker because the players want it.
Now the semi finals should never have been a double header there. Meath v Laois should have been either in navan or portlaoise. Dublin vs Kildare in portlaoise would have made more sense too for the size of the crowd." Im saying the players would prefer to play in Croker. Not that they put the game there themselves. .
waynoI (Meath) - 19/06/2019 17:16:23
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Gods or what - 17 Like(s)
God bless you Jim
waynoI (National) - 17/08/2019 22:17:33
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NFL Division 1 - 17 Like(s)
Replying To Richieq: "And behaving in stadium tunnels isn't for everybody either it seems, I'd be more concerned about the drop off in Dublin's discipline since Jim Gavins departure than about what division we ply our trade in if I was you." Fair play for the concern Rich me oul bud but with 7 all Irelands in the last decade, millions of leinsters, Allianz leagues, unbeaten record and the like, Even if the whole thing was to fall apart under Farrell I reckon id be happy with our lot for a few years. No pressure on us. But still like, we will play D1 football next year despite being brutal in the league so far so every cloud and all that...
waynoI (National) - 03/03/2020 12:42:30
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