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Dublin Vs Kerry Replay - 10 Like(s)

Replying To TheHermit:  "Amazing how in the light of siring questions and the full glare of public opinion turning on D-GAA and by extension Dublin, the climate change deniers turn to googling provincial records of other counties or insinuating that people asking honest and hard questions are not "genuine" GAA people. I've seen it over on the Kerry forum by "guests" coming in to "commensurate" with us. Apparently if we point to the well know facts and figures we are dismissed as being "obsessed" with Dublin and are probably an "embarrassment" to genuine GAA people in our county. It's very interesting seeing how the arguments, deflections and rhetoric of Dublin supporters on places like this and on social media are evolving. One thing is for sure, it's getting more aggressive, more defensive and by implication they know public opinion has well and truly shifted and they can't hide behind words like volunteerism and once in a generation any longer. The horse has bolted. Also of course this isn't some reaction to the 5 in a row, for several years now people have rightly been asking questions about what has been allowed go on with Dublin by the GAA. We have the GPA, every major media outlet, every second poster on here and the majority of GAA supporters up and down the country raising these issues now. Are we all paranoid or obsessed or can Dublin supporters finally concide the simple premise that where there's smoke there's a fire. What's beyond doubt for me is that there's a semi-professional team playing 31 other counties and playing all but 1 or 2 of their games in their own ground. They are a talented, truly excellent group of players with an incredible manager but don't tell me or anyone else their dominance hasn't been greatly aided. In the past week we have heard how the Dublin senior team is able to engage in high-altitude training, no wonder they can keep running while other teams are out on their feet when the clock hits 70l! I'm sure the Dubs have enjoyed the 5 in a row, personally I don't think they being first to do it negates the wonderful tradition and history of my own county. History will judge this decade in the long run and the contexts of what went on will be set out. Looking forward to 2020 and also to the GAA (rightly) getting it in the neck all winter."
History will also judge those facile Kerry AIs won with just 3-4 games. Meaningless titles and so the roll of honour will have a huge asterisk against them. This Dublin team won 9 games in the championship this year. Four of their AI final were won by either a point or went to replay. That's how hard fought they were. The money of course is games development money that is pushed down to the lower levels and not IC but it does give ammunition to the uninformed begrudgers. It's been a tremendous hard fought run from Dublin, 9 games this year, 8 games last year to win Sam and almost halted 3 times by Mayo x 2 and Kerry x 1 but it's a measure of this team's greatness that they should come through. It must pain some to witness their great success.

Joxer (National) - 22/09/2019 15:12:03

Dublin Vs Kerry Replay - 6 Like(s)

Replying To TheHermit:  "Amazing how in the light of siring questions and the full glare of public opinion turning on D-GAA and by extension Dublin, the climate change deniers turn to googling provincial records of other counties or insinuating that people asking honest and hard questions are not "genuine" GAA people. I've seen it over on the Kerry forum by "guests" coming in to "commensurate" with us. Apparently if we point to the well know facts and figures we are dismissed as being "obsessed" with Dublin and are probably an "embarrassment" to genuine GAA people in our county. It's very interesting seeing how the arguments, deflections and rhetoric of Dublin supporters on places like this and on social media are evolving. One thing is for sure, it's getting more aggressive, more defensive and by implication they know public opinion has well and truly shifted and they can't hide behind words like volunteerism and once in a generation any longer. The horse has bolted. Also of course this isn't some reaction to the 5 in a row, for several years now people have rightly been asking questions about what has been allowed go on with Dublin by the GAA. We have the GPA, every major media outlet, every second poster on here and the majority of GAA supporters up and down the country raising these issues now. Are we all paranoid or obsessed or can Dublin supporters finally concide the simple premise that where there's smoke there's a fire. What's beyond doubt for me is that there's a semi-professional team playing 31 other counties and playing all but 1 or 2 of their games in their own ground. They are a talented, truly excellent group of players with an incredible manager but don't tell me or anyone else their dominance hasn't been greatly aided. In the past week we have heard how the Dublin senior team is able to engage in high-altitude training, no wonder they can keep running while other teams are out on their feet when the clock hits 70l! I'm sure the Dubs have enjoyed the 5 in a row, personally I don't think they being first to do it negates the wonderful tradition and history of my own county. History will judge this decade in the long run and the contexts of what went on will be set out. Looking forward to 2020 and also to the GAA (rightly) getting it in the neck all winter."
Yes indeed history will recognize our feats and excellence and what we have achieved. That's the great thing about the records. They record the facts not the opinions of the losers. By the way , there's no shame in being obsessed with Dublin. It's all ok.Enjoy our success with us and appreciate it while it's happening. Winter well.

Dubh_linn (National) - 22/09/2019 14:50:20

Dublin Vs Kerry Replay - 5 Like(s)

Replying To TheHermit:  "Ah yes all our 37 titles were shams and sure don't we know only titles won in this decade count for anything, D GAA never existed before 2011. Pitiful stuff from the usual climate deniers but keep it up, they seem convinced too it's only conspiracy theorists in Kerry that are asking questions, lads the whole country is and has been for a long time. If only you had the decency to acknowledge the help you've been given perhaps public opinion would be less indignant. But no siege mentality and sneering is all ye can retreat to. It's been a long time since I bothered reading the Dublin forum but I'd be curious too the amount of Kerry posters that said congrats on there to ye after last Sat week and contrasted that with the amount of ye that came onto the Kerry forum to have a go or "commiserate" as most of ye called it. It tells its own story. Anyway it's back to the county championship for us and hoping to find a few more players that can make the step up. 2020 should be a massive year for Kerry."
Why be curious? Just have a look. If Kerry posters are consoling themselves in their defeat by coming onto the National Forum and questioning Dublin's success due to population and/or money then expect your own successes to be questioned also. It's only fair isn't it? Genuine Kerry posters, and there are some on here like Gerry, will be consoled by Dublin posters. WUMs and begrudgers may expect to be flamed.

Joxer (National) - 22/09/2019 16:21:06

Kerry 4 In A Row V Dublin 5 In A Row - 3 Like(s)

Replying To ballydalane:  "Good post username, but you're kinda making my point. The Dublin team this decade has been a continuous evolution, aided and abetted by Gavin's brilliant coaching, ability to identify good young footballers and refusal to bow to blind loyalty to great players who are past their peak. Kerry's success was with, more or less, the same group of players over the decade. Whether that was due to Micko being overly​ conservative and staying blindly loyal to the older players who had brought him such success, whether the good young players weren't there in Kerry by the mid 80s or Mick didn't trust them, I don't know (older Kerry posters would need to advise on that), but Kerry's success over that decade (75-86) and Dublin's success from 11-19 are two very different things. So if someone was to ask, which was the best CONTINUOUS team, I would still say Kerry. Which was the best sustained period of producing and developing brilliant players? Dublin."
Fair point, i would suggest though the game has changed radically Kerry for their for in a row played a maximum of four games a season. Dublin for example played 9 games this year that 60% more games. Kerry played 17 games to do four in a row. Dublin manged to match the same feat in terms of games for 2015- Semi final 2017 in terms of games. Dublin teams that started at the beginning and end of those games were: 2015: S Cluxton, J Cooper, R O'Carroll, P McMahon J McCarthy, C O'Sullivan, J McCaffrey B Fenton, D Bastick; P Flynn, D Connolly, C Kilkenny B Brogan, D Rock, P Andrews 2017: Stephen Cluxton; Jonny Cooper, Cian O'Sullivan, Michael Fitzsimons; John Small, Philip McMahon, Jack McCaffrey; Brian Fenton, James McCarthy; Niall Scully, Con O'Callaghan, Ciaran Kilkenny; Paul Mannion, Paddy Andrews, Dean Rock. Not a huge difference in the turnover of players matching the same number of games, much of the changes were enforced also Dermo had been suspended (came on though), Bastick retired and Rory left the panel. Over a similar amount of games i.e. 17, Kerry and Dublin are fairly neck and neck. Dublin are now 38 games unbeaten in the championship, to do 5 in a row, was 17 for Kerry to 4, there has been squad turnover certainly but that period of 17 games there wasnt wholesale changes in personal with any changes enforced. The real transition took place in Dublin after they had matched Kerry run of games for four. Different time and different games in different era admittedly.

TheUsername (National) - 22/09/2019 12:47:24

The Future Of The GAA - 3 Like(s)

Replying To superbluedub:  "Would you say the Waterford and Limerick players are disillusioned ? its over 110 years since either won a Munster title ? its over 80 years for Tipp , do you care about these Counties ? Whats your solution to help these counties compete with the mighty 81 Munster title winners Kerry ? Or is it all you care about is weakening Dublin so yous can add to your record breaking 37 All IRELANDS . ?"
Of course those counties are dissilusioned and don't get their best players. Those that do commit could probably give a whole lot more but it's not worth their time. I don't think any kerry fan would have a problem with the likes of Tipp, Clare or Limerick winning a few munster titles. If the GAA invested properly in them they probably would have won a few instead of Kerry/Cork and we'd have a better munster championship. Limerick came close in the 00's. If 15 years previous the GAA began a multimillion annual investment in limerick football I believe it they would have been even better and gotten over the line against kerry or Cork once or twice. Kerry don't have huge advantages over cork either so you have to commend them for beating them. A bit like how meath used to beat Dublin. You had to commend us because we didn't enjoy the luxeries of dublin.

Jack_Goff (National) - 22/09/2019 13:34:34

CASEMENT, BELFAST AND ANTRIM - 3 Like(s)

Replying To Whammo86:  "https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/gaelfast-launched"
That's giving a paltry 200k a year to Antrim. The county has a population about half that of Dublin. Going by the funding Dublin gets why hasn't Antrim been getting about €600k per annum since 2004 for underage development? I can tell you right now if they got Dublin level funding since 2004 they'd be much better at football and hurling. The GAA are a disgrace.

Jack_Goff (National) - 22/09/2019 13:41:03

CASEMENT, BELFAST AND ANTRIM - 3 Like(s)

Replying To Jack_Goff:  "That's giving a paltry 200k a year to Antrim. The county has a population about half that of Dublin. Going by the funding Dublin gets why hasn't Antrim been getting about €600k per annum since 2004 for underage development? I can tell you right now if they got Dublin level funding since 2004 they'd be much better at football and hurling. The GAA are a disgrace."
Belfast, not Antrim is the area covered by Gaelfast. It's population is roughly 4.5 times less than county Dublin. The rest of Antrim will still have development officers assigned to them but paid for by the Ulster council. Antrim didn't previously ask for funding to run a Dublin style project. We did ask and receive funding for a centre of excellence, which was unusable for a long time after 'completion' because it failed health and safety requirements with emergency vehicles unable to gain access. The Casement park debacle wasn't HQs doing and I'm sure we'll get support for whatever project that becomes in future. Your description of a >£200k a year commitment, really irritates me. It's going to get the ball rolling on an excellent project to get a coordination between schools and local GAA clubs. Foundations really have to be built in Belfast and the rest of Antrim and this is a really positive step.

Whammo86 (National) - 22/09/2019 14:43:34

Kerry 4 In A Row V Dublin 5 In A Row - 3 Like(s)

Replying To TheUsername:  "Fair point, i would suggest though the game has changed radically Kerry for their for in a row played a maximum of four games a season. Dublin for example played 9 games this year that 60% more games. Kerry played 17 games to do four in a row. Dublin manged to match the same feat in terms of games for 2015- Semi final 2017 in terms of games. Dublin teams that started at the beginning and end of those games were: 2015: S Cluxton, J Cooper, R O'Carroll, P McMahon J McCarthy, C O'Sullivan, J McCaffrey B Fenton, D Bastick; P Flynn, D Connolly, C Kilkenny B Brogan, D Rock, P Andrews 2017: Stephen Cluxton; Jonny Cooper, Cian O'Sullivan, Michael Fitzsimons; John Small, Philip McMahon, Jack McCaffrey; Brian Fenton, James McCarthy; Niall Scully, Con O'Callaghan, Ciaran Kilkenny; Paul Mannion, Paddy Andrews, Dean Rock. Not a huge difference in the turnover of players matching the same number of games, much of the changes were enforced also Dermo had been suspended (came on though), Bastick retired and Rory left the panel. Over a similar amount of games i.e. 17, Kerry and Dublin are fairly neck and neck. Dublin are now 38 games unbeaten in the championship, to do 5 in a row, was 17 for Kerry to 4, there has been squad turnover certainly but that period of 17 games there wasnt wholesale changes in personal with any changes enforced. The real transition took place in Dublin after they had matched Kerry run of games for four. Different time and different games in different era admittedly."
Really highlights just what an achievement this has been for this group of players and puts it in context.

Joxer (National) - 22/09/2019 15:14:56

CASEMENT, BELFAST AND ANTRIM - 3 Like(s)

Replying To Ulsterman:  "As Dublin win 5 in a row the blue juggernaut rolls on and there doesn't seem to be any opposition or way to stop it. The Jacks and Jackeens laud it up, rightly, the GAA hierarchy, media, sponsors, advertisers all seem content to go with the flow and laud the annual coronation on the Hill. The Dubs success "ISN'T about money" they say out of the side of their mouths and even if it was well don't Dublin deserve and need it BECAUSE of the population size as they all nod in agreement and smug satisfaction. Meanwhile 100 miles up the road in Ireland's SECOND city BELFAST, and in the wider county of Antrim, Gaelic Games are struggling and in some places dying. If Dublin's funding is ALL about population where is our share we ask? We haven't even got a decent county ground in the name of Good Lord. The GAA and media shoot a glance the other away, holler "Look.............Squirrel" then collectively Whistle Dixie. Deflection, hypocrisy and double standards are alive and well within the Association."
Slow down there lad. If you think that the media have been "lauding it over Dublin" in the past week then perhaps you may need to look beyond The Irish News or whatever it is you're reading. There has been nothing but past players falling over each other to bring up the subjects of money, population and division of the county. This is in "the Dublin based media" as you like to call it, when it suits you. Even O'Rourke was on his high horse this week. Do you not get RTE in the 6 counties these days? A disgracefully timed Prime Time episode airing to attempt to diminish this great team's achievements. The charge of course was coming from the usual source, a sports hack now living in South America who seems to spend his every waking hour attacking Dublin GAS on Twitter. That win was just for you EM. It's funny that you should mention Belfast's population. How come you never raise this in the context of Dublin's population? You can't just raise it on the grounds of funding and then dismiss it when it comes to talking about advantages. Which is it? I once raised it and was shot down by an Ulster poster as half of Belfast will never play GAAI was told. I hesitated to point out that about half of Dublin is either non-national, from the country or anti-GAA anyway. Look lad you can't have it every way. I look forward to the day when Casement completes but leave the Champs out of it. Lobby your CB.

Joxer (National) - 22/09/2019 19:17:04

CASEMENT, BELFAST AND ANTRIM - 3 Like(s)
https://antrim.gaa.ie/news/gaelfast-launched

Whammo86 (National) - 22/09/2019 09:12:06

Dublin Vs Kerry Replay - 2 Like(s)
I'm a dyed in the wool Kerry supporter I had hoped against my better judgement that Kerry would halt the so called drive for 5 but plain facts as the dust settles proclaim Dublin to be a team of exceptional talent You don't win 7 in a decade with duffers, I salute them , ní dhèanfaidh airgead capall ràis d'asal (money can't make a race horse out of a donkey) As I watched New Zealand blitz South Africa yesterday I was reminded of Dublin's whirlwind start to both halves last Saturday Kerry reeled and crumbled in those brilliant Dublin moments All year I feared for Kerry's inadequate defence , Dublin careered through the centre of Kerrys rearguard like a jarvey through the Gap of Dunloe. Unless Kerry can unearth defenders in the ilk of Aidan O Mahony ,Seamus Moynihan Tomás and Marc Ò Sè I'm afraid their sojourn in the desert will be a prolonged one. I was amazed that Tommy Walsh ,Killian Spillane and Jack Sherwood were not called into action earlier on Saturday, the selection of Diarmuid O Connor was also baffling to say the least, he is one for the future no doubt but not for last week. Again Keane and backroom make the calls the presumption is that they know best . Dublin is the best outfit I have seen in the past 40 years I still rate Galway of the 60s as the most talented all round team that I have seen It would be interesting if you could bring them back and give them the training that present teams receive. I now go to Tralee to watch 2 games in the County Championship of particular interest Liam Kearney, O Donoghue and O Brien of Glenflesk and Gavin O Brien of KORahillys. [My Old retired teacher friend will keep me up to speed on happenings in Killarney !!]

37sowhat (National) - 22/09/2019 12:34:27

Dublin Vs Kerry Replay - 2 Like(s)
Amazing how in the light of siring questions and the full glare of public opinion turning on D-GAA and by extension Dublin, the climate change deniers turn to googling provincial records of other counties or insinuating that people asking honest and hard questions are not "genuine" GAA people. I've seen it over on the Kerry forum by "guests" coming in to "commensurate" with us. Apparently if we point to the well know facts and figures we are dismissed as being "obsessed" with Dublin and are probably an "embarrassment" to genuine GAA people in our county. It's very interesting seeing how the arguments, deflections and rhetoric of Dublin supporters on places like this and on social media are evolving. One thing is for sure, it's getting more aggressive, more defensive and by implication they know public opinion has well and truly shifted and they can't hide behind words like volunteerism and once in a generation any longer. The horse has bolted. Also of course this isn't some reaction to the 5 in a row, for several years now people have rightly been asking questions about what has been allowed go on with Dublin by the GAA. We have the GPA, every major media outlet, every second poster on here and the majority of GAA supporters up and down the country raising these issues now. Are we all paranoid or obsessed or can Dublin supporters finally concide the simple premise that where there's smoke there's a fire. What's beyond doubt for me is that there's a semi-professional team playing 31 other counties and playing all but 1 or 2 of their games in their own ground. They are a talented, truly excellent group of players with an incredible manager but don't tell me or anyone else their dominance hasn't been greatly aided. In the past week we have heard how the Dublin senior team is able to engage in high-altitude training, no wonder they can keep running while other teams are out on their feet when the clock hits 70l! I'm sure the Dubs have enjoyed the 5 in a row, personally I don't think they being first to do it negates the wonderful tradition and history of my own county. History will judge this decade in the long run and the contexts of what went on will be set out. Looking forward to 2020 and also to the GAA (rightly) getting it in the neck all winter.

TheHermit (National) - 22/09/2019 14:03:23

Kerry 4 In A Row V Dublin 5 In A Row - 2 Like(s)
It's very hard to compare different era's and debates often take different angles. Despite the era teams have rivals, challengers and the need to prepare and remain focused. The reality is Kerry were unable to win the 5 in a row whereas Dublin were so statistically Dublin are the best and without any arguments have achieved something no team has achieved. It's true Kerry used more of the same players but not to mention that era would leave a huge gap in the debate. For one the national football league was as many players have acknowledged "a p*** up" or a tour of the country with a ball threw onto a field at some stage over the weekend. Ireland was in deep recession and there was no sign of the Celtic tiger leaving in particular little challenge coming from the Connacht Championship. The vast majority of Ulster was at war with the obvious problems those teams would have encountered. It's little coincidence when things started to somewhat settle in Ulster a number of All Ireland's were won in the 90's. Munster as always was a hurling province moreso in those days with little thought or effort put into football and of course there was no back door. That left the Kerry team with one game to win in Munster and in reality only one challenger (Leinster Champions) in the All Ireland series. With no competitive National league the Kerry four in a row team had in essence two competitive games a year. It's therefore much easier to field the same team over a number of years compared to the current era when we have much stronger competitions, back door and a much larger workload. I don't think Dublin being able to freshen up whilst being successful is a critcism. They're the best team ever but by introducing new systems and new players whilst at the top shows Gavin is probably the best football manager ever as well. Cody is a legend in hurling terms but he allowed his great Kilkenny team to stay at the top together resulting in a transitional era when they stepped aside together - Gavin has been ruthless which shows in football terms he is the best already and thinks about the overall well being of the county rather than loyality to individuals like all great sporting coaches. I know Kerry won't like it but it's only a week since the 5 in a row and already we're seeing the effect this is having. I would hope all GAA success's prior to the 5 in a row are not forgotten about but I fear with the enormity of this achievement it will overshadow anything that happened before for future generations. The Offaly 1982 team and that famous goal will be talked about less now. It's like history now starts from 2019 for generations ahead. Dublin have changed the landscape.

sam1884 (National) - 22/09/2019 15:07:24

The Future Of The GAA - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Jack_Goff:  "Of course those counties are dissilusioned and don't get their best players. Those that do commit could probably give a whole lot more but it's not worth their time. I don't think any kerry fan would have a problem with the likes of Tipp, Clare or Limerick winning a few munster titles. If the GAA invested properly in them they probably would have won a few instead of Kerry/Cork and we'd have a better munster championship. Limerick came close in the 00's. If 15 years previous the GAA began a multimillion annual investment in limerick football I believe it they would have been even better and gotten over the line against kerry or Cork once or twice. Kerry don't have huge advantages over cork either so you have to commend them for beating them. A bit like how meath used to beat Dublin. You had to commend us because we didn't enjoy the luxeries of dublin."
Kerry has the advantage of being the only county in Munster which focuses on football. The body responsible for investment in Limerick football is the county board.

Hawkeye9212 (National) - 22/09/2019 17:44:23

CASEMENT, BELFAST AND ANTRIM - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Tir Conaill Abu:  "This "population to funding" example needs to be knocked on the head. Larger cities have larger populations but there is a very high % of that population that will never have any interest in the GAA or participating in its games. Cork, Dublin, Galway, Limerick, Belfast etc. have all been multicultural for the best part of 20 years yet look at the % of players from non-irish parents playing at the top level. If we are to assign funding on population figures then it needs to be per registered player in each county. This will still show that Dublin does get a high percentage of funding and the ratio will still be shown above other counties but not the sensational figures that are being thrown about by Antrim, Meath and other counties that are looking for an excuse rather than looking at their own systems and player development."
It should not be just on registered players per county. The purpose of development money is for development, grow the game as it has and continues to do in Dublin. The growth potential is going to be high in a high population area with currently low participation rates. The rural to urban migration that continues in Ireland is changing the demographics in Ireland. It's also wrong to assume for instance that the children of non-Irish nationals won't play Gaelic games. They are and they do. It's just one person but a Belarusian colleague of mine's Irish born son is playing. His friends play and his dad likes it because it's the best organized of the sports in Dublin. I do accept though that more than population has to be considered, for instance, there shouldn't be the same amount per person going to the lower Shankhill as there is to North Donegal.

Whammo86 (National) - 22/09/2019 19:55:28

Dublin Vs Kerry Replay - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Joxer:  "History will also judge those facile Kerry AIs won with just 3-4 games. Meaningless titles and so the roll of honour will have a huge asterisk against them. This Dublin team won 9 games in the championship this year. Four of their AI final were won by either a point or went to replay. That's how hard fought they were. The money of course is games development money that is pushed down to the lower levels and not IC but it does give ammunition to the uninformed begrudgers. It's been a tremendous hard fought run from Dublin, 9 games this year, 8 games last year to win Sam and almost halted 3 times by Mayo x 2 and Kerry x 1 but it's a measure of this team's greatness that they should come through. It must pain some to witness their great success."
Excellent post, absolutely spot on.

Dubsfan28 (National) - 22/09/2019 21:19:32

Dublin Vs Kerry Replay - 2 Like(s)

Replying To TheHermit:  "Amazing how in the light of siring questions and the full glare of public opinion turning on D-GAA and by extension Dublin, the climate change deniers turn to googling provincial records of other counties or insinuating that people asking honest and hard questions are not "genuine" GAA people. I've seen it over on the Kerry forum by "guests" coming in to "commensurate" with us. Apparently if we point to the well know facts and figures we are dismissed as being "obsessed" with Dublin and are probably an "embarrassment" to genuine GAA people in our county. It's very interesting seeing how the arguments, deflections and rhetoric of Dublin supporters on places like this and on social media are evolving. One thing is for sure, it's getting more aggressive, more defensive and by implication they know public opinion has well and truly shifted and they can't hide behind words like volunteerism and once in a generation any longer. The horse has bolted. Also of course this isn't some reaction to the 5 in a row, for several years now people have rightly been asking questions about what has been allowed go on with Dublin by the GAA. We have the GPA, every major media outlet, every second poster on here and the majority of GAA supporters up and down the country raising these issues now. Are we all paranoid or obsessed or can Dublin supporters finally concide the simple premise that where there's smoke there's a fire. What's beyond doubt for me is that there's a semi-professional team playing 31 other counties and playing all but 1 or 2 of their games in their own ground. They are a talented, truly excellent group of players with an incredible manager but don't tell me or anyone else their dominance hasn't been greatly aided. In the past week we have heard how the Dublin senior team is able to engage in high-altitude training, no wonder they can keep running while other teams are out on their feet when the clock hits 70l! I'm sure the Dubs have enjoyed the 5 in a row, personally I don't think they being first to do it negates the wonderful tradition and history of my own county. History will judge this decade in the long run and the contexts of what went on will be set out. Looking forward to 2020 and also to the GAA (rightly) getting it in the neck all winter."
GAA (rightly) getting it in the neck all winter. In your opinion.

Dubsfan28 (National) - 22/09/2019 21:22:02

CASEMENT, BELFAST AND ANTRIM - 2 Like(s)
I thought this was gonna be an interesting topic, but it's just another anti Dublin post,

DuhallowRed (National) - 22/09/2019 09:46:41

Stephen Cluxton - 1 Like(s)
Dont like captains giving speech. If they want to talk after do it to press immediate. dont see why has to be at mic on stage Players in county squad and coaching team should be picking the captain as well not county champions nominating the captain.

KillingFields (National) - 22/09/2019 11:29:56

Likely Football Allstars 2019... - 1 Like(s)

Replying To winatallcost:  "First of all, neither player is particularly young. Morely 25 and Small 26. Morely was taken to the cleaners in the replay and by 18 year old Shane Walsh in Navan. He's neither fast enough or big enough. Small is a tough marker that players on the edge at best. Was lucky to get his place for the replay and is the most limited defender on the ball that Dublin have."
I would say 25 and 26 is quite young would you not? On average a player peaks at 28-30, so both have a fair few years, I think Morley has had a great year for Kerry particularly based on the level of club football he has been playing prior to making an AI final. Small on the other hand had 2 good finals, kept O'Brien quite as you like both days out... something no other man could do this year on one occasion never mind 2. And What do you mean he was lucky to start again.. says you? Or did Jim tell you that himself, otherwise how have you come to the conclusion that he was lucky to start? Very silly thing to say as it's blatantly not true and you have no valid reason to make a call like that, so it is nonsense

boman11 (National) - 22/09/2019 11:33:08