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Pairc Ui Chaoimh And Liam Miller - 5 Like(s)
So those who run Pairc Ui Chaoimh will allow any band this side of China play on the hallowed turf provided they make a few bob for the GAA. Meanwhile Liam Miller, a soccer player who played GAA as a child and who died so prematurely, leaving a young family behind receives the thumbs down when the organisers of his benefit match sought use of the stadium. THe Pairc holds 45,000 people while the said organisers can now only plan around 7,000, the maximum crowd the Cork City grounds can hold. What was the attendance at the recent Clare/Wexford hurling quarter final in Cork. Told it was less than 10,000 and was also told that business people in the city ie hotels, bars, restaurants etc. concerns who regularly help out the local GAA club, were hugely disappointed at the lack of return from this clash. Here was a great opportunity for the GAA to show a great gesture of goodwill, make a euro or four for that business sector and above all help out a young wife and children. Yes there are rules, minor issues that are side stepped every day of the week in every walk of life in this country. It all smacks at some elements of the GAA remaining in the 1960's. Can only pray that it is still not too late and that the decision can be reversed. Surely this is what the ordinary members of Cork GAA want.
Triple H (National) - 19/07/2018 12:03:43
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Tyrone V Dublin - 3 Like(s)
Replying To festinog: "I'm loving the complacency. Long may it last!" pardon the ignorance, but where is the complacency in the post you replied to ??
waynoI (National) - 19/07/2018 18:23:19
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Monaghan V Kerry - 3 Like(s)
Replying To wfkerry: "To be honest Monaghan are average enough couldnt beat
Fermanagh beat a Kildare team who were beaten by Carlow
as poor as Kerry were we were only a point behind Galway
hitting 70 minutes and we were poor if Kerry improve 10%
they will beat Monaghan i think Monaghan are believing
there own hype that they are some kind of a super team
what did MCmanus do last week not alot if Kildare had there
shooting boots on they would have won" And if my auntie had balls etc. etc. Forget about the fact that we missed loads of chances ourselves and should have been clear only for the wides.
The point about McManus is also pretty funny. If he had scored 10 of our 15 pts then the tired old "one man team" line would be trotted out. But when he has one of his quieter days and we still win with other lads stepping up, then that's an excuse to bash him aswell! Can't win I suppose.
patk (National) - 19/07/2018 09:03:22
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Longest Unbeaten Run In Championship History? - 3 Like(s)
Replying To waynoI: "[quote=jimbodub: "There are some wise heads on this site regarding historical GAA stats.
In my limited capacity on that front I have the following stat down as the greatest unbeaten run in Championship history:
Wexford 1915-1918 = 20 Championship games unbeaten
Now I could be wrong there. If I am fair enough!
But if I'm not wrong..
Then I'm somewhat sure that Dublin from 2015-2018 exactly 100 years later.. have now beaten the previous record held by Wexford.
Including drawn games I think Dublin now stands at 24 games unbeaten across the Championship.
Correct me if I'm wrong.. I've done zero research." I think the Dubs are 28 games unbeaten in the championship.
Mental.
Incredible team. The greatest ive seen. Not sure ill see a better one in my lifetime (im 26)"]I was thinking you were a young fella and you hadn't seen much.
Bit to go to match O Dwyer who built a couple of great Kerry teams over an 11 year period.
Yes the present Dublin side are good but their 74/78 side were equally as good despite coming up against the greatest team I ever say. And when I say greatest team I also mean some of the greatest individual footballers ever to play the game .
JackO, P o Shea, Spillane, Sheehy, Egan, Power, O Keefe.
Have a look on YouTube youngfella after you have taken the blinkers off!!
Inaroundehouse (National) - 19/07/2018 09:49:36
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Kildare Vs Galway - 2 Like(s)
Replying To The_DOC: "This is so true, I've said it on here previously. This year anytime Galway have had a win the narrative in the media afterwards has always been on the 'under performance' of the opposition - its the reserve narrative of what's going on with the Galway hurlers (i.e. always given credit for not let the other team dictate the play and playing their own game)
NFL:
- Beat Tyrone: Narrative after on how Tyrone were caught on the hop in the first game of the league
- Beat Donegal: Narrative after on how Donegal are playing 'lovely' football and it will take a while for them to find their way
- Beat Kerry: Narrative afterward on how the Galway system wont work come summer ball and championship
- Beat Mayo: (See above 'Beat Kerry')
- Draw with Dublin: Narrative after on how Dublin missing half the team (even though Galway rested at least 5 starting players)
Championship:
- Beat Mayo: Mayo played badly, likely to beat Galway if and when they meet in the Super 8's
- Beat Roscommon: Roscommon very poor in the 2nd half, Galway will struggle playing their system in Croke Park
- Beat Kerry: Narrative after on how poor Kerry were and lots of youth in the team (zero mentioned about Galway having very young players togged as well i.e. Sean Andy, Kelly, Cooke and Daly)
At what point will some genuine analysis be done and see that Galway are not allowing these teams play and Galway wins are not down to the random underperformance of 90% of the teams they have played in 2018." Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not all out to get you
jimski (National) - 19/07/2018 20:49:09
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Pairc Ui Chaoimh And Liam Miller - 2 Like(s)
Replying To Triple H: "So those who run Pairc Ui Chaoimh will allow any band this side of China play on the hallowed turf provided they make a few bob for the GAA. Meanwhile Liam Miller, a soccer player who played GAA as a child and who died so prematurely, leaving a young family behind receives the thumbs down when the organisers of his benefit match sought use of the stadium. THe Pairc holds 45,000 people while the said organisers can now only plan around 7,000, the maximum crowd the Cork City grounds can hold. What was the attendance at the recent Clare/Wexford hurling quarter final in Cork. Told it was less than 10,000 and was also told that business people in the city ie hotels, bars, restaurants etc. concerns who regularly help out the local GAA club, were hugely disappointed at the lack of return from this clash. Here was a great opportunity for the GAA to show a great gesture of goodwill, make a euro or four for that business sector and above all help out a young wife and children. Yes there are rules, minor issues that are side stepped every day of the week in every walk of life in this country. It all smacks at some elements of the GAA remaining in the 1960's. Can only pray that it is still not too late and that the decision can be reversed. Surely this is what the ordinary members of Cork GAA want." Backwards move from the organisation. It's time that rule was done away with. Reminds me of the club in Longford who got nailed for having the audacity to allow a soccer club in the area use their pitch for a summer camp.
gotmilk (National) - 19/07/2018 12:08:12
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Pairc Ui Chaoimh And Liam Miller - 2 Like(s)
This is a total disgrace and shows the GAA in such an antiquated light. They really must put no value on goodwill or PR. It's hard to believe there's no way around allowing Pairc Ui Chaoimh to be used for this match or that nobody can use their initiative and make it happen. They surely don't think anyone would have an objection within the GAA community to allowing the rules to be bent on this one very exceptional and great cause occasion. Cop on, let the match be played in Pairc Ui Chaoimh and everyone will be the better of it, especially Liam Miller's family.
kildare73 (National) - 19/07/2018 13:36:14
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Pairc Ui Chaoimh And Liam Miller - 1 Like(s)
GAA - more than happy to remove rules such as Rule 21 which was voted against by all but one of the affected Counties yet keep rules like this in place which prevent use of the grounds for another sport - and especially when the cause would be one which most right thinking people would support. The Organisation is losing support of people on a daily basis it seems over rules, structures, finance etc etc. They are slowly killing what was once a great Organisation. Thank God for clubs and grass roots is all I can say. Let them not ruin that as well!!!
Offside_Rule (National) - 19/07/2018 15:20:37
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Pairc Ui Chaoimh And Liam Miller - 1 Like(s)
While I'd like to see it played in Pairc Ui Caoimh I totally understand that there are rules in place for a reason. The stadia are to promote gaelic games who are in a tougher than ever battle for the hearts and minds of the youth from professional sports.
If there is an exception given the the next case doesn't have to be so strong. If Thomond Park is being renovated in a few years big games have to go to the Aviva if no suitable Munster venue can be found... Absolutely different circumstances but if the precedent has been set then the pressure will come on to relax the rules even more
Strategically it would be very interesting for Munster rugby to test out the viability of a large stadium in Cork, something that would likely negatively impact the GAA. Cork City draw some big english team in Europe same thing.
Gaelic games are amateur, their facilities are one of their best resources compared to other sports, it makes sense to keep a tight reign on them. As a GAA person I don't want my kids assocation the park with somewhere Pogba got a great goal against City. I want them associating it with some magical points by Hoggie on a day the rebels beat the premier or (God will I live to see it) the day Kerry will be put to the sword in a Munster football final!
All that said, this is an exceptional one for a great Cork man, if an exception could have been made now was the time to do it.
dahayeser (National) - 19/07/2018 15:24:12
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Pairc Ui Chaoimh And Liam Miller - 1 Like(s)
well they wouldn't let 2-3 clare gaels on the pitch at the weekend,what hope is there of them letting a few man united players onto it?
perfect10 (National) - 19/07/2018 16:15:27
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Kildare Vs Galway - 1 Like(s)
Replying To JDF: "Galway have got zero respect for beating Kerry which will suit Kevin Walsh perfectly. Its all about how Kerry didn't turn up from all the ex Kerry players in the media, its comical.
Its been totally ignored that Galway have just as many top players as Kerry if not more and that Galway have now beaten Mayo & Kerry in the same championship, can't recall anyone outside of Dublin do that in a very long time." This is so true, I've said it on here previously. This year anytime Galway have had a win the narrative in the media afterwards has always been on the 'under performance' of the opposition - its the reserve narrative of what's going on with the Galway hurlers (i.e. always given credit for not let the other team dictate the play and playing their own game)
NFL:
- Beat Tyrone: Narrative after on how Tyrone were caught on the hop in the first game of the league
- Beat Donegal: Narrative after on how Donegal are playing 'lovely' football and it will take a while for them to find their way
- Beat Kerry: Narrative afterward on how the Galway system wont work come summer ball and championship
- Beat Mayo: (See above 'Beat Kerry')
- Draw with Dublin: Narrative after on how Dublin missing half the team (even though Galway rested at least 5 starting players)
Championship:
- Beat Mayo: Mayo played badly, likely to beat Galway if and when they meet in the Super 8's
- Beat Roscommon: Roscommon very poor in the 2nd half, Galway will struggle playing their system in Croke Park
- Beat Kerry: Narrative after on how poor Kerry were and lots of youth in the team (zero mentioned about Galway having very young players togged as well i.e. Sean Andy, Kelly, Cooke and Daly)
At what point will some genuine analysis be done and see that Galway are not allowing these teams play and Galway wins are not down to the random underperformance of 90% of the teams they have played in 2018.
The_DOC (National) - 19/07/2018 16:25:37
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Kildare Vs Galway - 1 Like(s)
That's just grand
let them all keep underestimating us
Let joe brolly continue his paddy tally rant
and how galway are going nowhere
hes like a broken record at this stage
and how wonderfull Kerry is and all the amazing young talent they have
despite the fact that our young lads took them out last year,
in the u21 all Ireland semi final ,shock, horror,
I think all those minor all Ireland medals those Kerry lads won
are becoming heavy with all the anticipation expectation pressure,
that they now will have to deal with from now on.
rhudson (National) - 19/07/2018 16:59:42
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Pairc Ui Chaoimh And Liam Miller - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Damothedub: "Was wondering when this would come up , personally have no issue with the game going ahead in any GAA ground particularly for the cause in this instance, however if you take emotional circumstances away for a second wasn't there a massive hullabaloo on here re rules been broken re Kildare playing in HQ , there is currently a big debate re Dublin getting so called home games , my point is we are the association US if you are a club member OUR rules, if WE don't like them then it's up to US to help enforce change , or we could get a keayboard and a soap box less work , populist posts are all the rage at the moment" But it's too late to wait until February to change the rule in this case. Why can't there be a committee to arbitrate on requests like this one where there isn't 6 months to play around with? There's committees for all sorts of stupid stuff in the GAA, don't see why they couldn't have one for an exceptional case like this. How come Ed Sheeran was able to play in Galway's pitch if this rule is only applying to Croke Park? If Taylor Swift and Sheeran can play on a GAA pitch, i can't understand why Roy Keane can't! And i don't see why you should take the emotion out of it, it's an emotional subject for anyone touched by cancer. Call me populist if you like, but life isn't always black or white.
kildare73 (National) - 19/07/2018 18:00:17
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Kildare Vs Galway - 1 Like(s)
Replying To yew_tree: "Newsflash...you need to win the All Ireland to get respect. We in Mayo only know too well...I remember walking out of Pearce stadium after we hammerd ye in 2013...few Galway fans shouting "ye will ever win sam" laughing out loud...best thing is to ignore it and support your team." You really need to give it a rest like your Mayo ballers for the summer, you'll drive yourself mad..
Belclare1 (National) - 19/07/2018 19:58:46
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Pairc Ui Chaoimh And Liam Miller - 1 Like(s)
Terrible decision. The GAA seem to only pick and choose when to implement this rule.
I cant think of any big clubs in Dublin that dont have a basketball court infact the GAA a few years back actually launched an officaial GAA/basketball crossover initiative from a basketball court in a GAA club!
link
Is basketball now not a foreign sport? The GAA are actively promoting it and its use on GAA grounds (which i applaud) but its ridiculous to then say now their os still on ban on foreign sports
bad.monkey (National) - 19/07/2018 20:07:37
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Pairc Ui Chaoimh And Liam Miller - 1 Like(s)
Embarrassing, playing the game in PUC ffs.
clondalkindub (National) - 19/07/2018 20:09:16
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All Ireland U20 Football Championship 2018 - 1 Like(s)
Replying To panamasam: "They beat a very good Derry team who were the best team in Ulster so deserve their place in the final regardless of games played. I know Galway were missing a huge player for them in Evan Murphy and had a man sent off against Roscommon and will wonder what might have been but Mayo thoroughly deserve to be where they after completely blowing away Roscommon in the final. I was dead against the rule changes at the time and I think it has been proved correct. I was amazed and still amazed by the lack of outcry there was. It seems it missed most people until the situation regarding Cian Johnstone in Offaly. The U-21 Championship is a massive loss to the calendar and when the same changes were not made in hurling you have to wonder what was the motive. Obviously teams in perceived weaker counties were going to lose lads to the senior panel so don't see how the change could be argued to be beneficial to the development of players in those counties. Basically like the Super 8's there was congress men there signing up for this and gave it little or no thought. The coverage of the U-17 championship has been appalling to be quite frank. The Leinster model should be universal in all provinces. I do not understand why one province differs from the other in this regard makes little sense. Also the scheduling of fixtures should give leeway for college and school exams. In Donegal we were down a couple of valuable players because of this. The likelihood is that it will get reverted back. That will leave a very very sour taste for those players who were eligible for U-21 this year but not U-20. Of course I am biased in this regard as Donegal were big losers here as we would have probably won Ulster minimum." I agree, the old format was much better. Playing it in March/April means it didn't clash with any exams and it wasn't being overshadowed by the senior championship. Also the jump from U20 to senior is too much for the majority of of players.
The issue of burnout could have been easily fixed as it only affects a small percentage of players. Just say players can't play senior league football for 2 weeks before the start u21 championship and can't rejoin the seniors for 2 weeks after the U21s are finished.
MayoDan (National) - 19/07/2018 20:29:08
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A New Golden Age Of Hurling - 1 Like(s)
Replying To neverright: "Some day they might have enough counties for an All-Ireland hurling competition -" Like football. One contender. One pretender and the rest would not kick their way out of a paper bag.
Canuck (National) - 19/07/2018 20:42:50
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Monaghan V Kerry - 1 Like(s)
Replying To westkerry: "4 were 21 or under and a total of 7 playing their first championship game." Then by your own admission your statement that "we have a team of kids 19/20/21 learning senior football" is incorrect. Furthermore your average age is likely to increase on Sunday with the addition of a few more experienced players........rushing too many young players together into your starting 15 is a deliberate choice by Kerry management...if it doesn't work then the buck stops with them...a county the size of Kerry doesn't need to do this ...might work in the hurling province of Munster but at best a big risk in the super 8s.
Anyway let's hope we have a great game on Sunday and may the best team win !
Shelbourne (National) - 19/07/2018 21:00:33
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Monaghan V Kerry - 1 Like(s)
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "There is big pressure on the boys but there is big pressure on Monaghan also, if Monaghan lose they'll end up having to head to Galway looking for a win and will be in a semilar scenario that we're in now, plus who ever finishes second in the group has only a 6 day turn around to play the dubs." I didn't realise group 2 winners and runner up spot was decided after 1 game !!
superbluedub (National) - 19/07/2018 21:02:43
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