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The Amateur Ethos - 2 Like(s)
I am not ethical against players being paid but remember CP is sold out once per year in each code. Rarely are games sell outs. Would professionalism be sustainable If ticket prices were not as expensive i have no doubt stadium would be full more often. But these over paid guys in croke park that reward themselves with pay rises even when the game is going backwards dont care about the fan or the player just making money.

sourmilk93 (National) - 18/02/2020 10:33:27

The Amateur Ethos - 2 Like(s)

Replying To icehonesty:  "Rugby union going professional has been great for the international sides, pro clubs and pro players, but has been a disaster for local clubs and players below pro level. i.e. translated to GAA professionalism would benefit county teams, county players and be a disaster for everyone else."
Not true. Professionalism has allowed rugby to generate far more money through Internationals & Provinces which funds the clubs. Over 11 million to clubs in 18/19. Facilities in rugby clubs are far better now than in the pre professional era. Unfortunately for the GAA there is no international dimension that will generate large TV money unlike most other sports

bad.monkey (National) - 18/02/2020 10:52:22

The Amateur Ethos - 2 Like(s)

Replying To traleegerry:  "The gaa is pro in the Dublin senior set up"
Explain that statement, not a shred of evidence

arock (National) - 18/02/2020 15:42:00

Black Card In Hurling - 2 Like(s)
There would be more guessing what colour the card is in hurling, so it should be a non-starter. My view is scrap the black in football also, just give a red for hand trips and third man tackles and all pre-meditated cynical play. A penalty kick should follow all red cards.

suckvalleypaddy (National) - 18/02/2020 18:58:01

The Amateur Ethos - 1 Like(s)

Replying To icehonesty:  "Rugby union going professional has been great for the international sides, pro clubs and pro players, but has been a disaster for local clubs and players below pro level. i.e. translated to GAA professionalism would benefit county teams, county players and be a disaster for everyone else."
It has not at all been disaster for amateur local clubs or players below pro level. Care to expand how it's been so bad for amateur players and local clubs. Sport going pro has seen more and more kids join clubs and start playing the sport. And it cant be directly compared to GAA.

KillingFields (National) - 18/02/2020 13:05:13

Black Card In Hurling - 1 Like(s)

Replying To gatha:  "If a player has a free run at the goal and is pulled down the Ref should be allowed to award a penalty. Putting someone in the sin bin doesn't put a goal on the score board. As for out the field if it is deliberate a yellow card is sufficient"
What if when the player has a free run and is pulled down outside the box he gets a free from where he is pulled down but the other team can't flood the box with players. So essentially it's a penalty from where the foul was committed

Breezy (National) - 18/02/2020 15:08:51

Black Card In Hurling - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Greengrass:  "The black card in football was only carried at Congress because traditional hurling counties agreed to vote for it . I had no problem with them doing so even though I was opposed to the introduction of the black card . We are all GAA people . I would be opposed to the introduction of the black card in hurling too . However I don't think anyone can deny that something needs to be done about the deliberate pull down of forwards who are through on goal . I would make it an automatic red card offence with that red card carrying a one game suspension . There are other fouls in hurling such as the deliberate pulling of the hurley or the arm that need to be looked at. However it is a delicate balancing act because the essence of the game must be maintained . What has been inflicted upon and what continues to be inflicted upon football by the hierarchy of the GAA should serve as a salutary warning . It is a tribute to football and footballers that they continue serve up entertainment of the quality of last years championship and league despite the impositions of the leadership of the GAA. Hurling needs to push back at the leadership whilst at the same time recognising that there are areas of the game that need to be tidied up ."
"The black card in football was only carried at Congress because traditional hurling counties agreed to vote for it" you do realise you are basically talking about Kilkenny whereas the flipside is ridiculously unbalanced.

arock (National) - 18/02/2020 15:49:02

The Amateur Ethos - 1 Like(s)
The average croke park exec salary is 125k? Theres a fair few intercounty managers knocking down that i d imagine.. and lots of club trainers costing anything from 10k to 80k. So I wouldn't be overly worried about that. Look at the money delaney etc was getting in the fai and the shambles it is! The more successful counties/players do get "rewarded" for their profile. Cant be denied. Even in our small little county it happens- a job, a car etc. Wouldnt begrudge it to them. So who's driving things? (Not the free cars!!) The paid personal - management etc and the players who demand it! We all would have heard the stories about the savagery of matches and competing for the parish etc back in the 1880s etc. We ve just replaced the savagery on the pitch with money off it - 30 million. And to win what really? So 30 players can lift a piece of silverware. Crazy! But we love it!

old yellar (National) - 18/02/2020 21:21:54