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Roscommon GAA thread - 2 Like(s)

Replying To tommyc:  "I took the short journey to Elphin match and they certainly proved me wrong too. A powerful performance from them when everyone including me wrote them off. So it's Faithleachs, Clann and Western Gaels or Glaveys for relegation. On your point about it being competitive , yes it is competitive for the ten teams outside of Brigids and Pearses. My comment from a few weeks back still stands. Yes Roscommon is higher quality but it is the least competitive of the county SFC that I go to in terms of likely winners"
If things are so non competitive as you claim for Brigids then why haven't they retained the county title for a decade and why didn't they top their group last year?

Same question for Pearses. Before they brought Brigids to a replay last year they needed extra time to overcome Boyle,Oran and this weekend lost to Clann something that should happen if so far ahead of the other ten teams?

That comment you are standing by is underestimating the competitiveness of your county championship and view clouded on wanting more group games it appears.

That generally waters down a championship. Tyrone for example is regarded as the most competitive in the country and they have a straight knock out format. They treat their league football more serious than most counties something than should be looked at for other counties Roscommon included than thinking added more group games to the championship is the way forward.

Drax_the_destroyer (National) - 30/08/2026 13:58:18

Westmeath Football thread - 2 Like(s)
After the weekend gone by I have now seen all 12 Senior teams play and its extremely hard to look beyond The Downs. Would probably have Kinnegad as their closest challengers but even at that I still think they are a bit off them. Lomans would be next in line and I do think if they get out of the group they will be hard to beat as they're well accustomed to knockout football and getting over the line in tight games. After that everyone else is miles off to be honest. The Downs will be hoping for Tubberclair Moate All Whites or Athlone in a semi final. Caulry have had a poor year which is no harm, might keep a few of them out that way quiet for a while. Mullingar Shamrocks fell off the wagon, maybe injuries didnt help. Garrycastle still have a chance of qualifying and credit to them for putting themselves in that positon.
Section B has two dead rubber games which is disappointing as Section B used to always come down to the last round given only 2 qualified and every game was massive. Ironic that the club that enforced the new format are now knocked out. Milltown and St Malachys flying high in Section A, a draw would actually put both sides in the semi final. Milltownpass v Shandonagh is a winner takes all and should be a humdinger.
Ballymore are flying in section B and are safely through with a game to spare. Ballinagore have also been brilliant, only Junior 2 a couple of years ago and are now on the brink of an intermediate quarter final. Their games with Rbridge will be massive. Maryland V Castletown in the relegation play off will be a tight one to call, neither side have been playing well.

BadgerDog (National) - 31/08/2026 10:46:57

Westmeath Football thread - 2 Like(s)
We are getting to the crucial stage of the championships now but i have to say when you see it in the cold light of day that two out of Lomans,Shamrocks and Garrycastle will go out of the senior football championship is in terms of quality a disaster. Maybe Athlone and Moate might surprise me but surely in terms of merit the board have got it totally wrong.

jobber (National) - 31/08/2026 10:27:33

Wexford Club Hurling 2026 - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Formertownie:  "I hope anyone that does go has a ball .
Is nt it better they can go withiut having a choice of letting the team down or let their mates and partners go without them qake up lads its the right thing to do .
Life is fir living nit to be flogged week in week out without any down time"
I'll say one complimentary thing about the Electric Picnic that I've often thought but not sure if I've ever actually said here before.

Fair play to the organisers for creating such an aura about it that it's considered so unmissable if you're in your twenties or early thirties - i.e. the age band of 90% or more of our club GAA players.

Just a pity they wouldn't hold it sometime like the June Bank Holiday instead. Or any other one of the 35 weekends in the year that we don't use for club championship matches!

Pikeman96 (National) - 30/08/2026 20:30:02

Man Utd V Leeds Utd - Croke Park - 2 Like(s)

Replying To brayballer:  "Thats the Jarlath Burns line Fionn and of course the gaa coaches benefit from money but are you telling me that if Croke park was nt used for other sports the gaa would not have money to coach kids.No money shortage in the gaa."
"No money shortage in GAA" because they do a fairly good job in maximising all potential commercial revenue streams.

If they were to deny themselves a €14 million revenue stream but still wanted the same output on Coaching & Games and everything else, well then, they'd have to generate that €14 million elsewhere. And if they didn't have that €14 million to spend, they'd have to cut the budgets for coaching and all sorts of other things.

This is pretty basic stuff.

Pikeman96 (National) - 30/08/2026 13:01:14

Galway Football thread - 2 Like(s)

Replying To Seniorleague:  "St James in a biteen of trouble all of a sudden. Wasnt at it but from the scoreline seemed like a good game.
That oughterard loss is haunting them.

Hopefully as a city club they avoid the drop."
They were well beaten by Oughterard in the end, in a game they were favourites for. Very fine margins overall though. Should have closed out the Annaghdown match and a one point loss today. Annaghdown topped the group unbeaten, which very few would have predicted at the start. It was a very competitive group.
The other 3 groups had the favourite finish top comfortably. Tuam now have a preliminary quarter to play, while the other 3 favourites will sit out that weekend. Might be what they need to find some form. Their performances haven't matched the pre-championship expectations for them.

WanPintWin (National) - 30/08/2026 22:04:12

Westmeath Football thread - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Claretandblue:  "Tubberclair Athlone and Moate through in Section B but important games to decide which two get to Section A. Tang vs Tyrrellspass a relegation play off essentially as is Finea vs Maryland. Milltownpass vs Shandonagh a knockout game too as is Ballinagore vs The Bridge. Garrycastle need to beat The Downs which would jeopardise The Downs qualifying."
Tubberclair, Athlone, Moate all likely to rest players ahead of quarterfinal the following weekend. Not exactly 'jeopardy' when teams can pick & choose who they play and rest lads in the last round, this wouldn't have been the case under the old format. If the current system is retained, all 3 would be better off in Section B again next year. Tang V Tyrrellspass and Finea V Maryland would have been relegation play offs under the old system too.

WHLeinster2026 (National) - 30/08/2026 21:16:52

"It's Worrying For Football That More Rule Changes Are Being Considered!!" - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Viking66:  "If there are 3 or 4 tacklers around a fella then there are 2 or 3 free teammates somewhere on the pitch. A good player would find one of these before he gets tackled by 3 or 4 lads in the 1st place."
Rubbish, a good hard player winning scrap ball can't even get to his feet with men surrounding him. He gets a hand pass away and is blew up.

Saynothing (National) - 31/08/2026 11:44:39

Longford GAA thread - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Gaaforlife2023:  "Agree but if they do will win leinster like mulinaghta they will need that for me to topple them"
Remember Mullinaughta had won 2 or 3 in a row before they won Leinster. It is a bridge too far to say Clonguish will make an impact on Leinster this year. When they win 2 or 3 in a row they can start talking about Leinster.

B&G (National) - 31/08/2026 10:49:48

Monaghan GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Hear niall mc kenna flying for Emyvale ... scored goal and 8 there in training and is in top form in the intermediate championship. He could definetly be a potential call up for the monaghan senoir squad. Seems like a like for like replacemnt for our legend conor mc manus. I've been told he's working in active 8 so will have a great relationship with captain Mick Bannigan. His back could be sore from carrying Emyvale year in year out, even though he lives in Monaghan town he plays for Emyvale which is a big loss for the harps

monaghanmad4567 (National) - 31/08/2026 10:40:46

Man Utd V Leeds Utd - Croke Park - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Dothesimplethingswell:  "Reverse gear is often very difficult to find once something is allowed creep in and that is what happened. Where was Croke park and its committee when the finals were moved from the 3rd Sunday in Sept to the the end of July over a period of about 4 years?? I cant see why something that which may seem so obvious is a reason for it not to go to a vote? I cannot see how this split season benefits clubs apart from having county pkayers back (the majority would have them back anyway as their county would be out of AI race befor club championship starts) as the county final have not moved forward in one county with majority in Oct and some in Nov. That makes a mockery of club champions provincial campaign with some playing a county final on a Saturday and the first round of the provincial the next day. Player welfare how are you."
To answer your questions:

Where was Croke park and its committee when the finals were moved from the 3rd Sunday in Sept to the the end of July over a period of about 4 years??
It was overseeing that move, in accordance with the wishes of the CPA (representing over 90% of all GAA players, and the sole reason it was founded) and the GPA (where some 90% of players still support the split season and want an inter-county season of no more than seven months, i.e. January to July).

Then when Croke Park felt the possibility of moving All-Ireland Finals back to August was at least worth exploring, they did so, and prepared motions for Congress to that effect. The county delegates at Congress, instructed by the clubs and County Boards of their counties, said "no".

I cant see why something that which may seem so obvious is a reason for it not to go to a vote?
Am guessing you mightn't ever have been to even a County Convention? It's not an usual practice for something that's obviously going to fail to be withdrawn before even going to the floor.

I cannot see how this split season benefits clubs apart from having county pkayers back
But is that not THE major benefit, that overrides everything else?

the county final have not moved forward in one county with majority in Oct and some in Nov.
The split season was never about having county finals played earlier. It was about providing certainty as to when they could start and otherwise operate.

Provincial club championships still don't start until at least late October, or November in some cases, because at least some counties (i.e. All-Ireland finalists and probably semi-finalists) need until then to run their own club championships. Other counties then generally schedule their championships, particularly in their preferred code, such that their county finals are played two weeks, or in some cases one week, before the winners are due into provincial action. Waterford hurling and how they continue to finish it early is probably really the only exception to this.

some playing a county final on a Saturday and the first round of the provincial the next day
Well, that'd be down to the counties themselves and how they run their championships. They'd have known from before the beginning of their own county championship when the winners would be due into provincial action, and it's up to them to plan accordingly.

Anyway, am unaware of any instances of this happening in recent years. Do you have examples of it? And if so, have you looked to see if there were extenuating circumstances behind those examples? Could have been a weekend or two lost due to "uncontrollables" such as bereavements or bad weather, rather than simply being a case of bad planning by the County CCCC.

Pikeman96 (National) - 31/08/2026 10:37:39

Westmeath Football thread - 1 Like(s)

Replying To RebelAlliance:  "I'm sorry but as a neutral who attended the game, Lomans absolutely did not deserve a draw - they were poor and the referee really did bail them out with some strange decisions. The standard of refereeing at both games left a lot to be desired but the second game in particular was scandalous. Numerous missed hits off the ball, baffling decisions and just no consistency whatsoever. Incredibly harsh on Kinnegad, I couldn't make sense of it at all."
If you were refereeing a Championship game and one of the managers was your club mate who needed a result or his team were going to be knocked out wouldn't you try help him out?

iarmhiabu (National) - 31/08/2026 10:06:31

Westmeath Football thread - 1 Like(s)
So am I right in saying from senior all the way to junior 1 , there are only the following games that have anything to play for ?
The Downs v Garrycastle
Tyrellspass v Tang Relegation
Milltownpass v Shandonagh
Ballinagore v Rochfortbridge
Maryland v Finea Relegation
Out of 12 games only 5 have any real meaning. All other games involve teams that are already qualified or have exited the championship. Our county board have made some mess of 2026.

Moorehead (National) - 31/08/2026 08:16:59

Longford GAA thread - 1 Like(s)
Jaysus lads some of ye are getting way too far ahead of yourselves! Clonguish have nothing won yet, they'll beat Ardagh and will then have two massive mental games to win it. Very easy to say they'll win it but the pressure on them with both the expectation and disappointment of previous years will play on their minds. Nothing guaranteed at all.

BallWatching (National) - 31/08/2026 00:06:40

Westmeath Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Late drama in the Championship structure, with Killucan pushing through further changes which will come into immediate effect and will see an increase in the number of teams qualifying from Senior Section B from three to four.

iarmhiabu (National) - 30/08/2026 23:18:56

Man Utd V Leeds Utd - Croke Park - 1 Like(s)

Replying To brayballer:  "I am well aware of profits and turnovers but Im just saying that the gaa are very comfortable money wise and can get along fine without premier teams playing in croke park .

The Gaa have big assets and savings also.
On top of all that counties get sponsorship also to help.I know Wicklow get over 300,000 euro per year in sponsorship and Dublin get around 1.5 million euro.

The gaa put back in most of their money but there is plenty of"
Putting back even more can only make it stronger. If club and intercounty games are scheduled properly where's the problem from them making more money from vacant assets such as club astro pitches from other sports and intercounty grounds for gigs and other events? Clubs renting out facilities, as long as they're not clashing with club activities, can bring in some extra money and create goodwill. Might encourage parents to bring their kids to give hurling and football a go.

GreenandRed (National) - 30/08/2026 23:13:00

Man Utd V Leeds Utd - Croke Park - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Pikeman96:  "But to counter all the accusations that "the GAA is only interested in making money from concerts and soccer matches in August" - a reminder that it was actually a committee from HQ in Croke Park who were behind the proposal at Congress this year to move the All-Ireland Finals back into August.

But that proposal didn't even make it to the floor, because it was so obvious that the county delegates - representing the clubs and counties who are happy with the current split season - would overwhelmingly vote it down.

GAA/Croke Park itself was willing to move the All-Ireland Finals to later in the year and suffer the loss of revenue from concerts and other events. Counties and clubs said "no"."
Reverse gear is often very difficult to find once something is allowed creep in and that is what happened. Where was Croke park and its committee when the finals were moved from the 3rd Sunday in Sept to the the end of July over a period of about 4 years?? I cant see why something that which may seem so obvious is a reason for it not to go to a vote? I cannot see how this split season benefits clubs apart from having county pkayers back (the majority would have them back anyway as their county would be out of AI race befor club championship starts) as the county final have not moved forward in one county with majority in Oct and some in Nov. That makes a mockery of club champions provincial campaign with some playing a county final on a Saturday and the first round of the provincial the next day. Player welfare how are you.

Dothesimplethingswell (National) - 30/08/2026 23:04:00

Galway Football thread - 1 Like(s)
St James in a biteen of trouble all of a sudden. Wasnt at it but from the scoreline seemed like a good game.
That oughterard loss is haunting them.

Hopefully as a city club they avoid the drop.

Seniorleague (National) - 30/08/2026 21:03:26

"It's Worrying For Football That More Rule Changes Are Being Considered!!" - 1 Like(s)

Replying To TsuDhoNimh:  "The issue with the width of a pitch isn't that the arc won't fit, it's that the playable area within that new 2 point zone will vary significantly between an 80m pitch & a 90m one. (https://x.com/TsuDhoNim/status/2093390272805679479 an illustration of it helps clear up the meaning)

It means if we're playing on a 90m pitch like Tuam I've lots of space to ping passes into you in that new area to take an advanced mark and have a 2 point shot to nothing while retaining possession with the mark, or 2 shots at the 2 if you take the second one on, but if we're playing in a narrow pitch like say MacHale Park that tactic wouldn't be viable with the minimal space to look for the mark.

It's not a deal breaker by any means, but in a game where there's already a significant difference between how a larger or narrower pitch plays (or a harder surface versus a softer one) we're now introducing even more tactical nuances around it.

Nice to clear up all sidelines being worth 2 (they're foot on or outside of that zone anyway so all should have been 2 already), but not sure the variance within that 'extra' zone has more pros than cons.

@omahant: "Not sure I understand - "illegal" ok +50m, but "legal" tackle should be allowed".

Any tackle within 4m of the person taking the mark is illegal in the context there.

At the moment the 50m penalty only applies if the person raises a hand, claims the free kick reward for the mark and then the free kick is delayed. This would return the rule to the original setup where any foul (or tackle within 4m) on the person choosing to play on after a mark is back to 50m rather than a free from the spot.

There's already a 50m penalty for any foul designed to delay, which nearly all fouls on someone playing on from a mark will potentially fall under, so this could easily have been handled with a small tweak to the interpretation around that."
I take your point re. width of pitches but I'd assert that the graphic on the post you link to actually reinforces my point.

Even on a minimum width pitch, kicking a score from one of those light orange areas inside the 20m line would be more difficult than kicking one from the regular green area outside the 20m line and outside the arc. Why then should it be worth only one point when the "easier" kick would be worth two?

Pikeman96 (National) - 30/08/2026 20:06:44

Roscommon GAA thread - 1 Like(s)

Replying To Gaa_lover:  "I see Brigids Senior All-Ireland Finalists and Strokestown who played Intermediate football last year are level 0-10 each at half. Brigids given their qualities should go on to win but this debate that Roscommon senior club football isn't as competitive as some of counties is rather silly looking and a bit tedious."
Dead rubber game. Realistically Brigid's will dismantle them if it was a knockout game.

RossieFan1980 (National) - 30/08/2026 19:04:43