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Non-Gaa Forum - 2 Like(s)
Replying To updwell: "Didn't thousands of healthy people die of Covid, I personally knew some who died- never sick before getting Covid but because it didn't affect you it was over played. All these amateur experts on vaccines living online knew way more than experts in the field who have studied this their whole adult lives. I work with an anti-vax religious guy who spent a month in ICU with a ' heavy flu' in his opinion who was lucky to survive. Wake up and just look at the facts and evidence staring you in the face but no conspiracy theorists know more than than the rest of us." Lots of people die every year. No more died during the Great Panic than at any other time. Overwhelmingly older people who were kept locked up in nursing homes which the "scientists" claimed was best thing for them!
I never mentioned vaccines by the way. Didn't take them for reasons of not trusting the State and others pushing them and by looking at the evidence that was staring at you as much as me regarding the hysteria.
Most people rightly feel that they were taken for fools now because they did what they were told. I didn't, and never have done.
BarneyGrant (National) - 19/12/2025 06:52:18
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Galway Hurling thread - 2 Like(s)
Congrats david burke on a magnificent career
jm25 (National) - 19/12/2025 09:31:49
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To SouthGalway: "I really hope you're right. Nothing is easy at this stage." It won't bother me in the slightest if Loughrea win lose or draw, but if they can't beat a hurling team from Derry....they may aswell stay at home!
katser (National) - 18/12/2025 15:24:20
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Westmeath Football thread - 1 Like(s)
Nice win for CBS.
Would be great to have a CBS - Marist final
jamsie (National) - 18/12/2025 15:41:34
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To TheFlaker: "There's a few on here." And some very mediocre amateur detectives
jm25 (National) - 18/12/2025 18:49:23
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Galway Hurling thread - 1 Like(s)
Replying To katser: "It won't bother me in the slightest if Loughrea win lose or draw, but if they can't beat a hurling team from Derry....they may aswell stay at home!" Ok to lose to a village of 1200 odd people from up in the backs of County Antrim though?
Viking66 (National) - 18/12/2025 18:52:29
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Tirchonaill1: "I don't know what FFG are anymore and I couldn't care less, SF are a lost cause,
far as I can see we are governed by Brussels anyway, what we have in the Dail are like a County Council of old. If they are not lefties they are for sure woke." FF are not socialists and havent been since maybe the 1950s. FG never were. So no, they arent left wing parties. Not sure what exactly woke means, not sure people who describe themselves as woke, or others who describe other people as woke, know any better than I do either.
Viking66 (National) - 18/12/2025 18:56:59
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To updwell: "Didn't thousands of healthy people die of Covid, I personally knew some who died- never sick before getting Covid but because it didn't affect you it was over played. All these amateur experts on vaccines living online knew way more than experts in the field who have studied this their whole adult lives. I work with an anti-vax religious guy who spent a month in ICU with a ' heavy flu' in his opinion who was lucky to survive. Wake up and just look at the facts and evidence staring you in the face but no conspiracy theorists know more than than the rest of us." Thousands die of the flu every year. Tens of thousands die of sepsis every year. Plenty of healthy people who got the covid vaccine died with covid also. I personally knew several.
Viking66 (National) - 18/12/2025 19:01:08
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Viking66: "FF are not socialists and havent been since maybe the 1950s. FG never were. So no, they arent left wing parties. Not sure what exactly woke means, not sure people who describe themselves as woke, or others who describe other people as woke, know any better than I do either." Me either I'm still waiting for someone to give me clear definition on what woke is?
If your not woke are you asleep?
jm25 (National) - 18/12/2025 20:33:58
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Viking66: "We had a right wing government that time" Right Wing government in Ireland? Compared to what? North Korea? I think the best you could do is say they may have been slightly conservative.
SouthGalway (National) - 18/12/2025 23:47:59
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
Replying To Viking66: "FF are not socialists and havent been since maybe the 1950s. FG never were. So no, they arent left wing parties. Not sure what exactly woke means, not sure people who describe themselves as woke, or others who describe other people as woke, know any better than I do either." FF and FG seem to hover around the middle depending on the topic or which way the wind is blowing. I agree they aren't left wing overall. The term woke is thrown around the last few years quite a bit and seems to describe those that think there are 100 genders, men should be in women's sports, unlimited immigration from anywhere and everywhere, etc. I really don't know who coined that term.
SouthGalway (National) - 18/12/2025 23:56:51
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Non-Gaa Forum - 1 Like(s)
After the pandemic was largely over I was talking to a leading cardiologist who had been involved with a government, not ours, when the virus first hit and he said that when they first examined it, it scared the life out of them, they had never seen anything like it. Subsequently I was reading how a doctor who had been involved with SARS, which for the record had a death rate of 13%, recognised the similarities but what really scared him at the time was the transmissability of Covid. Sars died out as testing and tracing and isolation eventually starved it, this was not going to happen with Covid. I am not even sure what the first version of Covid was but its not what we have today. Omnicrom was the one that perhaps became the last version before everything opened up and before that we had delta. The studies on both at the time was that both had the same death rate for people with existing pre conditions however the important difference was the age criteria as Omnicrom the age was much higher. Therefore younger people were less impacted.
For anyone to say that it was no worse than the flu all along, well they are ignoring the facts of the evolution of the virus. In a way the world go a pass with Covid as there was no guarantee that Omnicrom would come along, it could easily have went the other way, had this been a SARS with the same transmission ability, I am sure some of us would not be here today.
Data from the OECD would show that Ireland did not suffer excess deaths in that period but overall the OECD had an excess of 5%. Thoes stats do not make any attempt to say where the deaths came from or attribute cause, its a mathematical model. Perhaps over the two year period with the age profile some of the people woukd have died anyway. Oddly enough we have had one of the highest excess death rates in the EU since then - is what happened during Covid linked? No idea. However using these stats to say it was all a hoax also ignores the facts that the quarantine measures in Ireland were followed as society accepted it was something that needed to be done. It would be like having a car crash while wearing a seat belt, walking away uninjured claiming the seat belt had nothing to do with it. Some people it would seem will never be convinced unless you recreate the crash while not wearing it.
The vaccines were and are safe to take. While not tying to diminsih the impact that Covid had on people and their loved ones, the next time the world may not be so lucky.
zinny (National) - 19/12/2025 13:41:10
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