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Sky deals, ground naming rights, multi-million county team expenditure budgets, sponsorship deals, boot deals, cars for players, payments and expenses for club and county managers, now Super 8s... Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1138 - 26/02/2017 11:25:37 1960879 Link 2 |
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The reality of the situation is teams have become more and more professional over the last 10 to 15 years! Being realistic, if we are asking so much from players these days we are going to have to offer them some compensation package! Also, something has to be done about our best talents being whisked off to Australia! Regards teams merging, I think there would be alot of resistance to it! Could be beneficial for the exceptionally weak counties like say waterford, Kilkenny and carlow all merging but still hard to see it happen as_ky (Kerry) - Posts: 535 - 26/02/2017 11:41:13 1960887 Link 0 |
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Excellent post & spot on, professionalism will be with us prior to RWC 2023 landing on these shores & the Gaa could have some semi pro or pro set up in place by then to counteract RWC 2023. The GPA have an agenda at play here as well & it's only a matter of time before they pull the plug looking for remuneration. It is worrying that on most forums now that any critical analysis of decisions of Croke Park, Congress, the President & Ard Stiurothoir of the Association is censored. This is an extremely worrying trend especially after this w'end in what could be a monumental shift in the history of the Gaa, we saw this previously with another Irish institution a decade ago where it was deemed unacceptable to speak out or criticise & look what came out & became of that institution. Free speech that deals with the facts on the matter & their likely outcomes should never be suppressed & it's a worrying trend in all associated Gaa related media. It is an indictment on our Association that the County Board & Provincial Board delegates who are supposed to represent the players & club members reject their views on the Super 8 & reject the motion on official recognition of the CPA. The fact of the matter is that Delegates no longer represent the views of club membership & view the importance of TV rights & increased revenue to Boards as of greater importance. A truly sad & divisive day for the Gaa.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 26/02/2017 11:59:01 1960891 Link 0 |
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The number of young players going to Australia can be counted on your two hands, the numbers of young players dropping out of the Association at U16/U18 is in the thousands & proven so by the ESRI, which would you view as of greater importance. It's obvious to all club members which the hierarchy rank in importance after this w'end as club players were even denied official recognition of their Association by their County Board delegates. The cart before the horse policy of the Gaa, where the interests of a few are put before the interests of thousands.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 26/02/2017 12:07:44 1960893 Link 0 |
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You think mergers or closures of 'unviable' teams won't happen. It did in AFL. South Melbourne was re-franchised and became Sydney Swans. Fitzroy also a Melbourne team folded and was re-franchised the Brisbane Lions. Footscray was re-franchised as the Western Bulldogs. Professionalism is ruthless. Belfast had 17 amateur rugby sides before the professional era now it has a mere handful. Weaker counties will fold/merger or face extinction. Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1138 - 26/02/2017 12:31:18 1960901 Link 0 |
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Sky super Sunday Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1057 - 26/02/2017 12:38:02 1960904 Link 0 |
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I love the idea that is being put out there on this thread that criticism of the GAA is suppressed. Numerous writers are criticizing it all the time in the newspapers ,broadcasters are doing the same on TV and Radio. uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 26/02/2017 13:54:36 1960933 Link 3 |
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The professional game killed amateur rugby, especially in Belfast and the GAA is going the same way. Dublin are a professional side in all but name now and the gap us getting wider. It's no coincidence the SKY deal coincided with the Championship changes and I wouldn't be surprised if SKY and Croke Park worked this out between them beforehand. Gaelic Games are now being run for the benefit of a small elite who are doing well financially out if it. You will see more people walking away especially kids going off to soccer. Brolly predicted all this and he is being proved correct. Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9702 - 26/02/2017 14:31:18 1960946 Link 1 |
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The Inter County season was shortened in length by one motion & increased in the number of w'ends the All Irl series will utilise in another. Net increase of number of games & w'ends occupied for Inter county, you neglected to refer to that rather conviently, a one eyed myopic view as always on your part. Perhaps you could explain in your wonderful world of Gaa democracy how the CPA were not allowed to address Congress. Let's not forget that even at this stage with over 20,000 registered members it far outweighs the numbers in the GPA who have direct access to Congress & are now allowed to put forward motions & receive funding in the millions & this year were given a percentage of all commercial Gaa revenue, so why are the CPA being silenced & rejected by Duffy & Congress.
moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 26/02/2017 14:39:34 1960954 Link 0 |
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You mean everything that Dublin has every other county will get?
royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 26/02/2017 14:57:29 1960964 Link 0 |
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Spot on Ulsterman.
Wicklowman (Wicklow) - Posts: 1138 - 26/02/2017 14:57:38 1960965 Link 0 |
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Totally agree. Insane hysteria with a number of contributors to various fora obviously not even having properly read the proposals. All this talk about money and the GAA and no account being taken of the fact that, with the abolition of most replays and the abandonment of September for inter county football, a large amount of money and promotional opportunities has been forsaken by the GAA. In fact, this is an extremely risky strategy and one that it's hard to imagine any other major sporting organisation would pursue. Having abandoned September and left it open to other sports to exploit the massive vacuum that will follow, it could be extremely damaging for future development and mean the loss of young people to other sports. The GAA have now freed up a significant amount of time for club games which is exactly what was being requested and they're still being lambasted. Most counties will have no more games for the rest of the year after June, which is actually crazy when you consider all the effort that's put in in preparation. So there's absolutely no excuse for them not having championships finished. CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 103 - 26/02/2017 15:12:15 1960970 Link 1 |
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The o"byrnes and kavanaghs joined forces for centuries to fight the dublin pale under a single banner. What would be wrong with a modern wicklow/wexford version? The pale is again out to kill the gaelic clans with their wealth and power?? Art macmurragh kavanagh and fiach machugh o"byrne would approve!!! tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 26/02/2017 15:20:37 1960972 Link 1 |
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My God I hope you're wrong Wicklowman but I fear you're onto something. The merger idea would be the most sickening. I'm sure you'd join me in saying the Eastern Wolves can get to f*** if it ever happens?!
MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 26/02/2017 15:25:31 1960975 Link 0 |
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The people who really matter in theGaa are already getting paid so why would they be interested in paying players? They proved yesterday they are not interested in player welfare. Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 26/02/2017 15:55:24 1960988 Link 0 |
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It took ten years for the GPA to get recognized. The CPA has existed for about 4 or 5 months.They will get recognition in time, you can't really give recognition to a body until it's 100% certain it will be a long lasting thing. Inter county players at various stages have mentioned that they want smaller gaps between games and a reduction in training to matches ratio.With the inter county season being reduced in length this will happen. 8 extra games are being added to the overall intercounty calender.Just 8 more games.2 extra for each county in the Super 8.The extra number of games will be easy for players to handle considering the amount of training they do and how fit they are. The month of September has now been 100% freed up for club activity.August will probably now only have the semi finals taking place in them so that is even more time freed up for 90% of counties.A huge amount of time has now been freed up toward the end of the GAA year to play club football and hurling. Counties can run club leagues to provide matches for club players during the rest of the summer.The club fixtures issue is 99% the blame of county boards who can't organise themselves properly.Now with the intercounty season shortened the whole of September (4 weeks) is available for every county to play games and almost every county will be out of the championship before the first week of August which leaves most of that month free also.Most club championships consist of 6 week per team and now loads of time has been freed up and maybe count boards can play club games on consecutive weeks which they should be doing already as the players are well able for it. uibhfhaili1986 (Offaly) - Posts: 1296 - 26/02/2017 17:02:56 1961049 Link 1 |
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Once pay for play is introduced it will be the end of the gaa being the focal point for most irish communities. The amateur ethos and the mantra of ask not what your club can do for you etc will be dead in the water. daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 26/02/2017 17:35:40 1961077 Link 1 |
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There will not be pay for play. Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4225 - 26/02/2017 18:16:08 1961122 Link 0 |
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Incorrect pal. There is not enough money to support 32 pro teams bit there is to support 8. daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 26/02/2017 18:26:59 1961132 Link 1 |
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By extension of that could you lads see a time when players can transfer from county to county for fees just like in soccer? MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 26/02/2017 18:35:10 1961137 Link 0 |