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Dublin footballers 2011-2016 Where do they rank?

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We can't fully appraise the ranking of the current Dublin team at present as we don't know for how much longer their period of dominance will continue. So i'll rank them as of now. Here's my top 10 gaelic football teams, roughly. I'm sure i'll leave some team out that merits inclusion. I know i've neglected teams from the 1884-1950. Like the Kerry 1930s 4 in a row team and the Wexford 1915-1918 team, Cavan teams etc. But football was so different then and we have little video footage and first hand accounts. So my teams basically start around 1960.

1. Kerry 1975-1986
2. Dublin 2011-2016
3. Galway 1964-1966
4. Tyrone 2003-2008
5. Kerry 2004-2009
6. Down 1991-1994
7. Down 1960-1961
8. Galway 1998-2001
9. Meath 1987-1991
10. Cork 1987-1990
10. Offaly 1971-1972

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 11/10/2016 00:00:10    1924732

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Replying To Laois76:  "We can't fully appraise the ranking of the current Dublin team at present as we don't know for how much longer their period of dominance will continue. So i'll rank them as of now. Here's my top 10 gaelic football teams, roughly. I'm sure i'll leave some team out that merits inclusion. I know i've neglected teams from the 1884-1950. Like the Kerry 1930s 4 in a row team and the Wexford 1915-1918 team, Cavan teams etc. But football was so different then and we have little video footage and first hand accounts. So my teams basically start around 1960.

1. Kerry 1975-1986
2. Dublin 2011-2016
3. Galway 1964-1966
4. Tyrone 2003-2008
5. Kerry 2004-2009
6. Down 1991-1994
7. Down 1960-1961
8. Galway 1998-2001
9. Meath 1987-1991
10. Cork 1987-1990
10. Offaly 1971-1972"
Just one team to add, Dublin 1974 to 1979 should be number 2 at the moment. If the present dublin team make another all Ireland final, then they overtake them. Also as much as it pains me to say it, meath 87/91 should be higher on the list. Personal bias aside they were unreal.

Beepee (Dublin) - Posts: 17 - 11/10/2016 00:38:16    1924738

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Replying To Laois76:  "We can't fully appraise the ranking of the current Dublin team at present as we don't know for how much longer their period of dominance will continue. So i'll rank them as of now. Here's my top 10 gaelic football teams, roughly. I'm sure i'll leave some team out that merits inclusion. I know i've neglected teams from the 1884-1950. Like the Kerry 1930s 4 in a row team and the Wexford 1915-1918 team, Cavan teams etc. But football was so different then and we have little video footage and first hand accounts. So my teams basically start around 1960.

1. Kerry 1975-1986
2. Dublin 2011-2016
3. Galway 1964-1966
4. Tyrone 2003-2008
5. Kerry 2004-2009
6. Down 1991-1994
7. Down 1960-1961
8. Galway 1998-2001
9. Meath 1987-1991
10. Cork 1987-1990
10. Offaly 1971-1972"
Major omission! Throw the Dubs of the 70s in at number 6. I know this might seem a bit low to many but i feel Tyrone and Kerry of the noughties had more competition.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 11/10/2016 01:42:34    1924741

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Who was more competition? There was Kerry Tyrone and Armagh that was pretty much it the rest made up the numbers.

Now there's Dublin Kerry Mayo Donegal Tyrone Monaghan.

It's just cause Dublin are so dominant you think the standard isn't as good but I'm sure you ask a Mayo or Donegal supporter and they'll tell you this is there greatest ever teams.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 11/10/2016 08:16:20    1924748

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Wayyyy too early to start this lark...

This Dublin team is far from finished

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 11/10/2016 09:28:33    1924769

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Who was more competition? There was Kerry Tyrone and Armagh that was pretty much it the rest made up the numbers.

Now there's Dublin Kerry Mayo Donegal Tyrone Monaghan.

It's just cause Dublin are so dominant you think the standard isn't as good but I'm sure you ask a Mayo or Donegal supporter and they'll tell you this is there greatest ever teams."
Are Dublin any more dominant than Kerry 04-09 who made every final and won four in six? I'm not sure they have done enough to be ranked several places ahead of that team at this stage.

Dublin look well placed to kick on and win more All Irelands in the next couple of years once they integrate a couple of new forwards. You would almost be looking at two different teams though at that stage as the majority of the 2011 team would be gone from the starting lineup. The team is constantly evolving.

GeniusGerry (Kerry) - Posts: 2105 - 11/10/2016 10:24:36    1924789

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Who was more competition? There was Kerry Tyrone and Armagh that was pretty much it the rest made up the numbers.

Now there's Dublin Kerry Mayo Donegal Tyrone Monaghan.

It's just cause Dublin are so dominant you think the standard isn't as good but I'm sure you ask a Mayo or Donegal supporter and they'll tell you this is there greatest ever teams."
I was talking about there being less competition for the Dublin 70s team, not the present one. Dublin and Kerry until Offaly arrived in 1980.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 11/10/2016 10:36:57    1924797

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Who was more competition? There was Kerry Tyrone and Armagh that was pretty much it the rest made up the numbers.

Now there's Dublin Kerry Mayo Donegal Tyrone Monaghan.

It's just cause Dublin are so dominant you think the standard isn't as good but I'm sure you ask a Mayo or Donegal supporter and they'll tell you this is there greatest ever teams."
Who said i thought the present standard wasn't as good. Haven't i the present Dublin team the second best team i've seen..and they're not finished. I'm referring to placing Dublin 1970s behind Tyrone and Kerry in the 2000s.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 11/10/2016 10:42:56    1924800

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Replying To Beepee:  "Just one team to add, Dublin 1974 to 1979 should be number 2 at the moment. If the present dublin team make another all Ireland final, then they overtake them. Also as much as it pains me to say it, meath 87/91 should be higher on the list. Personal bias aside they were unreal."
For some reason, despite their achievements, i find it hard to put Dublin 1970s in the top 3. My gut feeling about them was they relied a lot on superior fitness. Of course there were supremely talented exceptions like Jimmy Keaveney, Kevin Moran, Robbie Kelleher and Brian Mullins. But, just my own opinion Beepee, i don't think they'd light a candle to the current Dubs football wise.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 11/10/2016 10:47:14    1924805

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Who was more competition? There was Kerry Tyrone and Armagh that was pretty much it the rest made up the numbers.

Now there's Dublin Kerry Mayo Donegal Tyrone Monaghan.

It's just cause Dublin are so dominant you think the standard isn't as good but I'm sure you ask a Mayo or Donegal supporter and they'll tell you this is there greatest ever teams."
Monaghan?? So Monaghan today are more competition than Dublin of 07 for example? No chance! Also Donegal 2012 and 2016 are 2 VERY different propositions. As good as Dublin have been these past 5 years, in none of those years were they as formidable as Donegal 2012. Over the 5 years, of course they have been better.


And by your logic you'd have to also agree that the current Kerry team is the worst Kerry team this century and yet they ran ye so so close in the semi final.


Kerry 78-81, Trone 03-08, Kerry 04-09, Dubs 70s, Dubs 11-16 in that order IMO.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 11/10/2016 10:47:16    1924806

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Replying To GeniusGerry:  "Are Dublin any more dominant than Kerry 04-09 who made every final and won four in six? I'm not sure they have done enough to be ranked several places ahead of that team at this stage.

Dublin look well placed to kick on and win more All Irelands in the next couple of years once they integrate a couple of new forwards. You would almost be looking at two different teams though at that stage as the majority of the 2011 team would be gone from the starting lineup. The team is constantly evolving."
The evolution of a team is a bit of a problem Gerry alright.

Now Kerry 1975-86 had about 8 men who won 7 and 8 all-irelands by my reckoning. So that suggests a core team to me. Correct me if i'm wrong..

Paudie, Ger Power, Ogie, Pat Spillane, Mike Sheehy won 8. Jack O'Shea, Sean Walsh, Charlie Nelligan won 7?

I take your point about Kerry 2004-2009. I'm being harsh on them for the Tyrone losses really if i'm being honest.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 11/10/2016 11:01:04    1924812

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Hang on we're talking about era's here not 2012 or 2016, I said that Kerry team that won in 2014 was average yeah so what's your point it's still bleeding Kerry and there a lot better now than in '14 imo plus from '11 to '13 it was still the great Kerry team of the 00's give or take.Monaghan have won Ulster twice in this era and ran Dublin to a point in last years national league semi, Dublin won Leinster cause it was muck only 3 years before Westmeath n Laois were beating us.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 11/10/2016 11:08:49    1924817

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Replying To Laois76:  "For some reason, despite their achievements, i find it hard to put Dublin 1970s in the top 3. My gut feeling about them was they relied a lot on superior fitness. Of course there were supremely talented exceptions like Jimmy Keaveney, Kevin Moran, Robbie Kelleher and Brian Mullins. But, just my own opinion Beepee, i don't think they'd light a candle to the current Dubs football wise."
Yeah I can see your point but beating that kerry team in 76/77 puts them ahead of the current crop at the minute as I see it. It's all opinions though. I really liked that meath team 87/91 and Tyrone of the 00's too. Great to have a positive thread on here too!

Beepee (Dublin) - Posts: 17 - 11/10/2016 11:37:39    1924828

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Hang on we're talking about era's here not 2012 or 2016, I said that Kerry team that won in 2014 was average yeah so what's your point it's still bleeding Kerry and there a lot better now than in '14 imo plus from '11 to '13 it was still the great Kerry team of the 00's give or take.Monaghan have won Ulster twice in this era and ran Dublin to a point in last years national league semi, Dublin won Leinster cause it was muck only 3 years before Westmeath n Laois were beating us."
My point was why i put the Dublin team of the 1970s behind Tyrone and Kerry of the 2000s. You're rambling about Kerry of 2014?! Present Dublin are at number 2 in my reckoning. Over and out.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 11/10/2016 12:01:06    1924842

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Hang on we're talking about era's here not 2012 or 2016, I said that Kerry team that won in 2014 was average yeah so what's your point it's still bleeding Kerry and there a lot better now than in '14 imo plus from '11 to '13 it was still the great Kerry team of the 00's give or take.Monaghan have won Ulster twice in this era and ran Dublin to a point in last years national league semi, Dublin won Leinster cause it was muck only 3 years before Westmeath n Laois were beating us."
Sorry Clondalkin i see you're replying to Cavanman 1947!! Apologies for my last post.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 11/10/2016 12:02:56    1924845

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Replying To Beepee:  "Yeah I can see your point but beating that kerry team in 76/77 puts them ahead of the current crop at the minute as I see it. It's all opinions though. I really liked that meath team 87/91 and Tyrone of the 00's too. Great to have a positive thread on here too!"
That's it Beepee. We all see things differently. I suppose maybe i have Meath a little lower as i'm remembering their tougher edge rather than the football. Meath 1996-99 weren't half bad either. Nor were the Dubs 1989-95 despite a lot of final/semi final losses.

I genuinely rank this Dublin team at number 2. I know people might say my vision is being clouded as the most recent model are freshest in the memory. Look at the forwards, depth of the panel. Amount of league wins also.

Kerry of the noughties were a silky football team, beautiful to watch. No better team as regards skill. As i said in an earlier post i dropped them down a little because of the Tyrone losses.

Laois76 (Laois) - Posts: 1270 - 11/10/2016 12:09:04    1924848

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Who was more competition? There was Kerry Tyrone and Armagh that was pretty much it the rest made up the numbers.

Now there's Dublin Kerry Mayo Donegal Tyrone Monaghan.

It's just cause Dublin are so dominant you think the standard isn't as good but I'm sure you ask a Mayo or Donegal supporter and they'll tell you this is there greatest ever teams."
Donegal were a great side back then, Laois were able to give teams their fill of it. Mayo were strong in that period, Cork were strong. The Dubs were even strong, they went into the 08 qf as favourites against Tyrone and the 09 final as favourites against Kerry. Even the smaller sides were able to turn over a big side on any given sunday in that period. Fermanagh had league wins against Tyrone and Dublin, beat Armagh in the championship and pushed Kerry the whole way in tralee. Mike McCarthy is still having nightmares about Jonny McGuran.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 11/10/2016 12:09:58    1924849

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Replying To Laois76:  "We can't fully appraise the ranking of the current Dublin team at present as we don't know for how much longer their period of dominance will continue. So i'll rank them as of now. Here's my top 10 gaelic football teams, roughly. I'm sure i'll leave some team out that merits inclusion. I know i've neglected teams from the 1884-1950. Like the Kerry 1930s 4 in a row team and the Wexford 1915-1918 team, Cavan teams etc. But football was so different then and we have little video footage and first hand accounts. So my teams basically start around 1960.

1. Kerry 1975-1986
2. Dublin 2011-2016
3. Galway 1964-1966
4. Tyrone 2003-2008
5. Kerry 2004-2009
6. Down 1991-1994
7. Down 1960-1961
8. Galway 1998-2001
9. Meath 1987-1991
10. Cork 1987-1990
10. Offaly 1971-1972"
I despised them but surely the Meath team of 96-2001 needs to be in here?

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 11/10/2016 12:10:37    1924850

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Tyrone 03-08 I'd have below Kerry 04-09 who are up there with the current Dublin team.

Down 91-94 seems high

Meath 87-91 seems low

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4226 - 11/10/2016 12:23:13    1924856

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Who was more competition? There was Kerry Tyrone and Armagh that was pretty much it the rest made up the numbers.

Now there's Dublin Kerry Mayo Donegal Tyrone Monaghan.

It's just cause Dublin are so dominant you think the standard isn't as good but I'm sure you ask a Mayo or Donegal supporter and they'll tell you this is there greatest ever teams."
Kerry Tyrone Cork Armagh are all much weaker than they were in the last decade (I know Cork won in 2010 but they were better in the years before 2010) whereas only Mayo have significantly improved and been the only relevant challengers to Dublin in this decade.

It's funny that people say Hurling isn't a competitive sport yet there are 5 realistic challengers for the AI as opposed to 2 (3 if Tyrone find 2/3 top quality forwards)

HurlingWarrior (Limerick) - Posts: 61 - 11/10/2016 12:23:17    1924857

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