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I have watched the game again. In my view Maurice Deegan made the only fair decision he could make in not showing John Small a black card. Small and Andy Moran tackled for the same ball, both fell with Moran getting up first. In falling Small rolled on the ground into Moran's legs accidentally again knocking him to the ground. At this point Deegan blew for the free. While Small did hand trip Moran he did so after the free had been given I.e. When the ball was out of play! So the Referee could not penalise him by showing a black card for an infraction which happened when play was stopped. Johnnser (Dublin) - Posts: 1 - 04/10/2016 10:22:59 1922242 Link 1 |
Dublin deserved to win the replay (marginally) so I don't wish for what I'm about to write below to be construed as sour grapes. However, I was seated directly in line with the incident and Small clearly yanked Andy back as he got clear of him. If that wasn't a black card then Small should have gotten a red later on, as he was a very lucky boy to escape punishment for attempting to strike Cillian O' Connor before half-time. Jason Doherty should also have gotten a black card later on. Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 04/10/2016 10:47:45 1922266 Link 1 |
Sweet Jesus this has to be a wind up.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 04/10/2016 11:02:04 1922277 Link 2 |
Yeah Black card for me more then Cooper, the timing though was very early. You could pick another 20 questionable incidents and only two were black carded so its a bit irrelvent. TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 04/10/2016 11:02:09 1922278 Link 0 |
Jason Doherty should also have gotten a black card later on. yes and a red card earlier. then again every game is littered with dubious calls. the game is becomming almost impossible to officiate in it's present form. s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 04/10/2016 11:03:11 1922279 Link 0 |
It was definitely a deliberate hand trip, only issue for me is that maybe the ball had gotten away from Moran anyway. Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 04/10/2016 11:13:11 1922287 Link 0 |
I saw CoC hold JS in a headlock JS was pulling away and CoC started slapping the ground, a right hissy fit!
theduke66 (Dublin) - Posts: 334 - 04/10/2016 11:13:49 1922288 Link 2 |
He definitely did hand trip Andy Moran, so technically it should have been a black card. Now it's not the worst tackle in history but it is a black card. You can clothes line an opponent and get away with a yellow card, a simple hand trip like what Johnny Cooper did gets you a black card and end of your match, for me that makes no sense. I know the black card is there to stop cynical play but when you fall down your hands naturally start grappling to get to the ball. I'd have to say that John Small's hand trip looked more cynical and he knew what he was doing. I'd be in favour of getting rid of the black card and award a free in front of the posts for a cynical foul. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1874 - 04/10/2016 11:26:27 1922294 Link 0 |
Black card all day for me. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 04/10/2016 11:38:46 1922300 Link 0 |
There is no doubt he tried to trip Moran but I felt Moran had a delayed reaction before he fell - throwing the arms up in the air as he falls is a good indication of this. Also felt Small was trying to free himself from CoC rather than trying to strike him in the incident before halftime. If Small really wanted to strike a lad lying underneath him on the ground I expect he wouldn't have missed. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 04/10/2016 11:44:25 1922305 Link 0 |
Yeah it was cringe. Ronaldo-esque!
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 04/10/2016 11:49:44 1922309 Link 0 |
Welcome Johnser, interesting first post. Any other incidents you might require an opinion on or was it just the JS one ? For me there were several dubious calls and Deegan seemed to struggle to keep things together at times. Always difficult when you have that much happening at once and so much physicality involved. Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 04/10/2016 11:50:09 1922310 Link 0 |
I agree about the Small "punch", he was clearly trying to break away from CO'C
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 04/10/2016 11:56:43 1922314 Link 0 |
The only thing everyone will agree on, is that the current Black Card setup cannot be effectively implemented, and that something needs to change. Jaden (Dublin) - Posts: 139 - 04/10/2016 12:37:00 1922338 Link 0 |
I watched the sky coverage on YouTube last night. At HT they showed the Small/COC incident from two wide angles. COC clearly throws Small to the ground before falling on top of Small and holding him around the neck. Small was smacking COC's arm away Gavvygavgav (Dublin) - Posts: 382 - 04/10/2016 12:38:51 1922340 Link 1 |
By the letter of the law it was a black for Small and a red later on. buttybrennan (Cork) - Posts: 58 - 04/10/2016 13:08:38 1922353 Link 0 |
What's the point in going over all this again, Dublin are champions and getting annoyed about black yellow or red cards won't change that. clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 04/10/2016 13:20:29 1922357 Link 1 |
Fair enough, thread was started by a Dublin poster though.
Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 04/10/2016 14:15:41 1922389 Link 0 |
So everyone missed James McCarthy's definite red card on Vaughan then? MadgeKing (Cavan) - Posts: 493 - 04/10/2016 14:48:19 1922413 Link 1 |
Completely forgot about that! Nasty one alright.
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 04/10/2016 14:52:54 1922415 Link 0 |