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Who's under the most pressure, Dublin or Mayo ?

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Dublin :

- 3 All Ireland titles in 5 years.
- 4 National league titles in a row.
- 11 or the last 12 Leinster titles.
- No defeats in 28 competitive games league + championship
- 4 victories against Kerry in their last 4 championship meetings.
- 18 final victories in a row in Croke Park

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Mayo
- 7 AI final defeats in a row
- 1951 since their last title
- Coming off the back of losing their Connaught title to Galway.

Personally, I don't think Dublin have a lot to prove, They've done it all. Winning a back to back would be the icing on the cake for this team and put them in among the great teams, But no big deal if they don't, They have still achieved an awful lot in the last few years, Mayo on the other hand are not expected by many to beat the Dubs. Is it possible that both teams come into the final under no real pressure, I hope so, cause it could set us up for a right oul belter.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 06/09/2016 10:38:59    1910572

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Both teams under pressure to win but Mayo have the most baggage

They are fortunate to find themselves in a final

Galway beat them in Connacht and they got plenty of lucky draws at home in the back door, and we all know the antics they had to go to win.

They were on the handier side of the draw and that was the handiest an AI semi-final that you could ask for, even at that they struggled when Tipp ran at them, and they looked all over the shop for a spell when Tipp got within two points of them in the 2nd half, leaderless but once again lady luck def is on their side, a scuffed effort for a point turns into a direct ball to a goal at a very fortunate time

These are factors that they'll know only too well themselves and there's no getting away from it

Luck is def on their side this year but luck will only get you so far but at the same time maybe it will continue!

They'll need it.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 06/09/2016 11:18:57    1910588

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Replying To waynoI:  "Dublin :

- 3 All Ireland titles in 5 years.
- 4 National league titles in a row.
- 11 or the last 12 Leinster titles.
- No defeats in 28 competitive games league + championship
- 4 victories against Kerry in their last 4 championship meetings.
- 18 final victories in a row in Croke Park

Or

Mayo
- 7 AI final defeats in a row
- 1951 since their last title
- Coming off the back of losing their Connaught title to Galway.

Personally, I don't think Dublin have a lot to prove, They've done it all. Winning a back to back would be the icing on the cake for this team and put them in among the great teams, But no big deal if they don't, They have still achieved an awful lot in the last few years, Mayo on the other hand are not expected by many to beat the Dubs. Is it possible that both teams come into the final under no real pressure, I hope so, cause it could set us up for a right oul belter."
We're under no pressure. No-one gives us a chance.

Dublin are going for two in a row.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 06/09/2016 11:20:27    1910589

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No team is under more pressure than the other. However Dublin have nothing to prove whereas Mayo do.

aidan64 (Kerry) - Posts: 665 - 06/09/2016 11:27:23    1910594

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I dont think there is pressure on Mayo. They are rank outsiders. I dont remember any team being as long as 5/2 odds in a final.

unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 06/09/2016 11:31:48    1910596

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Mayo love playing Dublin and although not relevant to this years game in 2006 they showed determination and surprisingly did not bottle it in a big game and almost pulled it off last year as well. I think it is ingrained in Mayo to be that bit more competitive with Dublin and that is why there is slightly more pressure on them coming into this years final. I expect them to copy Kerry and push up on the kickouts however they will leave themselves exposed in the process. What better way for Mayo to break the hoodoo by beating the supposedly unbeatable Dubs for their first Sam since 1951. I disagree with the idea that Dublin won't be kicking themselves over losing this final. This is massive for them and they won't be considered a great team unless they win back to back All-Ireland's. Even Kerry weren't considered one of the great teams when they won back to backs in 2006/2007 and they won 4 in a 6 year period. They also had formidable opponents in Tyrone and Armagh and did not have a complete monopoly in their province like Dublin have today having had to beat Cork regularly.

Jimin10 (Meath) - Posts: 783 - 06/09/2016 11:36:03    1910601

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Mayo are under most pressure you can say your not but you know you's are. Dublin are champions this team is already legendary in Dublin people's eyes no matter what happens Sunday week. Mayo have the weight of 55 years hanging over them it's massive pressure for young ametur men to have.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 06/09/2016 11:41:45    1910603

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "We're under no pressure. No-one gives us a chance.

Dublin are going for two in a row."
Not being given a chance, and not being under pressure to deliver, are two different things.

The media are there to fill column inches in the lead up to the match. So spouting on about the Mighty Unbeatable Dubs, and Writing off poor under achieving Mayo suits the narrative to do this. But pretty much everyone knows that it's bo****cks.

No-one with an ounce of understanding of the game thinks that Dublin are unbeatable, or that Mayo haven't a hope. You don't get to an All Ireland final my accident. All the spouting in the world won't affect the teams in the slightest.

So saying that Mayo are not under pressure because they are written off, is not accurate. You can bet your life they haven't written themselves off, despite the imported yerra from some Mayo supporters. They want to deliver, and feel the weight of that expectation, both with themselves, and with their supporters.

Likewise, Dublin want to put titles back to back - it is the hallmark of any great team to do so. If (and I mean IF) they do, it expels any doubt that this is a great team of players, and a great management setup.

Final day is all to play for, different reasoning, yes, but all to play for.

Jaden (Dublin) - Posts: 139 - 06/09/2016 11:48:03    1910610

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I'm under the most pressure. Can't find anywhere to watch the match abroad wahhhhhhhhhhhh :0

Jackeen (Dublin) - Posts: 4097 - 06/09/2016 11:54:10    1910611

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Both teams are under pressure. Any team in a final is under pressure to win. The "nothing to loose mantra" is a load of crap.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 06/09/2016 12:07:35    1910623

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Replying To Jackeen:  "I'm under the most pressure. Can't find anywhere to watch the match abroad wahhhhhhhhhhhh :0"
Where are you Jackeen??

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 06/09/2016 12:11:12    1910625

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I dont think there is any pressure on Mayo this time. Very different atmosphere than all other finals. Just feels like any other match. Nobody gives us any chance of beating Dublin because they are such a brilliant team.

Mfs (Mayo) - Posts: 251 - 06/09/2016 12:21:49    1910632

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Replying To Jackeen:  "I'm under the most pressure. Can't find anywhere to watch the match abroad wahhhhhhhhhhhh :0"
Where will you be watching the game from jackeen?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 06/09/2016 12:27:29    1910635

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Mayo are under most pressure you can say your not but you know you's are. Dublin are champions this team is already legendary in Dublin people's eyes no matter what happens Sunday week. Mayo have the weight of 55 years hanging over them it's massive pressure for young ametur men to have."
65 years dude.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 06/09/2016 12:32:22    1910637

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Replying To Jackeen:  "I'm under the most pressure. Can't find anywhere to watch the match abroad wahhhhhhhhhhhh :0"
What is a loyal Dub such as yourself doing abroad on the 3rd Sunday in September!

I've zero sympathy for you.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4225 - 06/09/2016 12:38:53    1910642

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Dublin because it is expected . Mayo are not even close to favorites and in the minds of a lot of people Dublin have already won.

I'd usually say mayo regardless of who they play in a final but no hype around this years team because of average performances etc. Which isn't a bad thing for them

GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 06/09/2016 12:49:14    1910650

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Both teams are under pressure. Any team in a final is under pressure to win. The "nothing to loose mantra" is a load of crap."
Totally agree. This is a huge match. Lots of pressure on both sides. The question is who can handle this pressure better.
The record would suggest Dublin.

avonali (Dublin) - Posts: 1974 - 06/09/2016 13:00:22    1910664

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If Mayo setup defensively it will soon put to bed the whole "We don't fear the Dubs" mantra that they've been banging on about

They'd be mad to setup any other way in fairness to them

Tipp tore them a new one when they went that bit looser at the back

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 06/09/2016 13:08:05    1910669

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Cant see any team being under more pressure than the other to be honest.

Dublin have nothing to prove to anyone, they are where they are expected to be.

Mayo have been completely wrote off by all and sundry with no one tipping anything other than a Dublin win come All Ireland final day.

Of course Mayo will always have the pressure it being so long since they won the All Ireland but this year more than any the expectation and the pressure that brings isnt on Mayo as much as it has being previously.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1337 - 06/09/2016 13:20:48    1910679

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Pople saying there is no pressure on Mayo???? Please come off it!!!!

Seriously can one honest Mayo man come on here and tell it like it is!! There is huge pressure on Mayo after losing 7 finals in a row, whatever way you want to dress it up, thats a fact!!!

ConnollyDub (Dublin) - Posts: 2007 - 06/09/2016 13:23:33    1910684

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