Just wanted to get a few others opinions on this. I think off the ball incidents have increased. And the ref can't possibly be expected to see everything, when incidents happen in front of the other match officials I don't think they do enough, basically they do nothing unless the ref actually asks him what happens. They never call anything to the refs attention. It was a major problem in the mayo v galway game and the 1st mayo v dublin game. And I'm sure other games but I wasn't in attendence, tv coverage didn't truly show what was going on. I just think there should be more pressure on them to help the ref

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 13/10/2015 21:16:06    1798581

I agree that linesmen should be a bit more proactive with the off the ball stuff as long as umpires are left to call scores. It's a worry how many times they decide to revert to hawk eye when they have the choice. The CCCC need to foxtrot and a serious panel of ex referees who can properly analyse unsavoury incidents, hand out appropriate punishment and not cave to the inevitable appeal that will follow should be brought in to relieve the pressure on referees who can't possibly keep up with every incident by themselves. At least referees could then rest their minds somewhat if they know they have a decent panel that will assist them retrospectively instead of bracing themselves for another rash decision that will further tarnish the credibility of the rules.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 14/10/2015 09:08:36    1798622

Why not have a panel of refs who act as linesmen and umpires at the major games? This would get rid of the gentlemen who currently don the white coats with people who can make correct decisions....

Termon (Tyrone) - Posts: 58 - 14/10/2015 09:35:25    1798639

I hate to see a lad getting his jersey pulled and getting elbowed continously whenever the referees back is turned and the linesman is staring at it and dosent say a word. Surely at the next stop in play he could call it to the refs attention.

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 14/10/2015 12:29:28    1798713

Current linesmen are trained referees and don't draw the referees attention to off-the-ball incidents near as often as they should, why do people think having trained referees as umpires would improve this. Also I am sure everyone here must have umpired a few games and there is no doubt the more you do it the better you get in terms of knowing where to stand to make a correct call for a score - which is the main task of an umpire. Put referees in there doing the umpires job and you create another problem of scores being incorrectly awarded or missed.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 14/10/2015 13:06:30    1798721

Get one umpire to be a third set of eyes on the endline during open play in that area while his colleague watches the goal for incidents, incoming shots on goal or points. This may require the GAA to hire a number of conditioning coaches!

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7337 - 14/10/2015 14:42:17    1798745

It is amazing the pressure that is put on officials in the GAA and what is expected of them. In the rugby world cup there have been 40 games so far and just the 1 red card issued. But as everyone knows after the past few days the governing body of rugby can suspend a player who they feel should have been red carded during the game for any incident missed or not correctly dealt with by the referee at the time. So far there have been I think 17 players suspended which means on average in 1 out of almost every 2 games the professional referees, their professional assistants and the TMO have missed a red card. That is without mentioning all the other decisions they get wrong in each game. Just imagine the abuse if this was the situation in the GAA.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 14/10/2015 14:55:27    1798752

14/10/2015 14:55:27
Soma
It is amazing the pressure that is put on officials in the GAA and what is expected of them. In the rugby world cup there have been 40 games so far and just the 1 red card issued. But as everyone knows after the past few days the governing body of rugby can suspend a player who they feel should have been red carded during the game for any incident missed or not correctly dealt with by the referee at the time. So far there have been I think 17 players suspended which means on average in 1 out of almost every 2 games the professional referees, their professional assistants and the TMO have missed a red card. That is without mentioning all the other decisions they get wrong in each game. Just imagine the abuse if this was the situation in the GAA. Players can get suspended for less than red card offences and all those incidents were not missed red cards.
Fair point on what would happen if its the GAA but the officials have been criticised/discussed in depth for their performances so far.....

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 14/10/2015 15:29:46    1798762

I knew I shouldn't have sounded the rugby klaxon! All of these players were suspended after being cited by the Citing Commissioner. The role of the Citing Commissioner is to identify foul play which he believes warranted a red card. The subsequent hearing determines if the Citing Commissioner was correct, and on these 17 occasions he was so they were 17 missed red cards. When a player is cited and not suspended then it was not a red card. So in 17 of the first 40 games a red card offence was missed despite having 3 professional officials on the field and another working as the TMO.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 14/10/2015 15:55:08    1798775

I think the citing official is needed but can't see it getting through congress unfortunately. The culture of what you can get away is ok has to change.

lillyboy (Kildare) - Posts: 429 - 14/10/2015 18:36:37    1798817