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Are Galway now better than Mayo?

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That's 2 in a row now. Mayo have still won f*ckall of note outside of Connacht so are Galway now ahead of Mayo?

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 12/06/2017 00:59:46    1998219

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Hard to say. On the one hand Galway have now beaten Mayo the last two times they've played in Championship so it seems the obvious answer is that Galway have overtaken their neighbours.

On the other hand though I wouldn't be as sure. Mayo are still a quality side and played much of the game yesterday with 14 men.

As a Dublin supporter if you asked me who would I rather the Dubs play in a big game in August/September I'd rather be coming up against Galway than Mayo to be honest.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13707 - 12/06/2017 08:18:24    1998242

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Hard to say. On the one hand Galway have now beaten Mayo the last two times they've played in Championship so it seems the obvious answer is that Galway have overtaken their neighbours.

On the other hand though I wouldn't be as sure. Mayo are still a quality side and played much of the game yesterday with 14 men.

As a Dublin supporter if you asked me who would I rather the Dubs play in a big game in August/September I'd rather be coming up against Galway than Mayo to be honest."
I'd agree with this. Until we put in some big performances in Croke Park at the latter stages of the championship, we can't really say we are.
I'd imagine Dublin, Kerry, Tyrone and Donegal would all prefer to play Galway than Mayo in the knockout stages.
The gap has closed significantly though, especially from a physical point of view. Not very long ago, there was gulf between us in terms of physical preparation. Last year, and even more so yesterday, showed we've made great strides in this area.
We won a lot of the contests around the middle and I'd assume turned over more ball than them too.
We've a lot to learn in terms of game management, but that should hopefully come with experience.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2042 - 12/06/2017 09:04:22    1998256

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Hard to say. On the one hand Galway have now beaten Mayo the last two times they've played in Championship so it seems the obvious answer is that Galway have overtaken their neighbours.

On the other hand though I wouldn't be as sure. Mayo are still a quality side and played much of the game yesterday with 14 men.

As a Dublin supporter if you asked me who would I rather the Dubs play in a big game in August/September I'd rather be coming up against Galway than Mayo to be honest."
Spot on. We have to back it up. Win CF and take out a top team in QF. One big win a year is not enough to be taken seriously by the big boys.

But I believe we can and will progress to the top table.

Far from the finished product but really exciting footballers, at a good age and a lot of great talent coming through the under age system..........................pity Sean Andy Kelly went to the States. would have been a great addition at FB.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1829 - 12/06/2017 09:34:05    1998279

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It's a results game, so what can anyone say. Even a man down I thought we were going to do it in the last ten minutes tbh... Galway's FB line was saved by having the extra man back as permanent cover. What would have happened if they didn't have that luxury is academic, but future opponents will be looking at it, along with the video of what Tipp did last year. That said, they know they have to improve defensively and KW will have learned a lot from yesterday. Would the Dubs, Kerry, Donegal, Tyrone or Monaghan mind meeting them... I suspect not. All would still be favs. I'd favour Galway to beat Cork, though it'd depend on which Galway and which Cork showed up. We'll see what way they handle the Rossies first (disrespecting Leitrim, I know), though the Rossies are a bit dodgy at the back too. Galway confidence will have received a huge boost from yesterday's result, there's no doubting that.

Pericles (Mayo) - Posts: 2521 - 12/06/2017 09:35:07    1998281

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yes, but that's not saying a lot at this stage of the year. If you look at their respective results against Tipp in Croke Park last year, you'd come up with a different answer. We'll have a definitive answer in 2 months time

Pookie_Monster (Galway) - Posts: 32 - 12/06/2017 10:53:14    1998335

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If I was given 50 Euro to go watch any football team in Ireland other than Limerick, it would be Galway. The way they play the game is refreshing and when they get their game right they are a fine side.

Not sure if they are better than Mayo to be honest. Put it this way, which tam is more likely to be in the All-Ireland final? Mayo.

Win or lose, you more often than not get a good game of football out of Galway.

slayer (Limerick) - Posts: 6480 - 12/06/2017 12:52:55    1998430

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yes . yes they are better than Mayo.

Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 12/06/2017 13:05:45    1998440

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Notting between galway and Mayo yesterday though galway on the way up and could be serious All Ireland contenders in the next few years not there yet as we need to get confidence in the back 4. For Mayo I think there chances of all Ireland success is very slim if they don't do it this year me fear the curse will prove right

heartbroken (Galway) - Posts: 370 - 12/06/2017 13:16:48    1998447

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Galway probably have the stronger panel anyway. Kevin Walsh was very shrewd over the winter. He brought back Meehan, Armstrong and couple of other lads who were fed up after previous management teams.

So he has a panel full of players with championship experience. Danny Cummins was one of his best forwards last year and he was a sub yesterday. I'd rather have him as my number 25 than Evan Regan. In general Galway have the better forwards than Mayo. That Galway full back line won't be so naive this year in Croke park and they will be better protected too.

I wouldn't write Mayo off just yet. Losing Higgins was a huge blow. If they showed some composure in injury time they would have snatched a draw.

It's like 1998 all over again. Mayo running out of steam after some heartbreaking near misses. Galway coming through with a young exciting team that also has some battle hardened veterans.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 12/06/2017 14:14:19    1998474

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Galway probably have the stronger panel anyway. Kevin Walsh was very shrewd over the winter. He brought back Meehan, Armstrong and couple of other lads who were fed up after previous management teams.

So he has a panel full of players with championship experience. Danny Cummins was one of his best forwards last year and he was a sub yesterday. I'd rather have him as my number 25 than Evan Regan. In general Galway have the better forwards than Mayo. That Galway full back line won't be so naive this year in Croke park and they will be better protected too.

I wouldn't write Mayo off just yet. Losing Higgins was a huge blow. If they showed some composure in injury time they would have snatched a draw.

It's like 1998 all over again. Mayo running out of steam after some heartbreaking near misses. Galway coming through with a young exciting team that also has some battle hardened veterans."
This Galway team isn't in the same parish as the 98 team. Nothing near it as far as I can see. Galway have lovely forwards but scored no more from play than Mayo yesterday. Still have to prove themselves in Croker on a big day against a big team. Beating a 14 man Mayo by a point in Salthill in July and not scoring for a large portion of the second half is not good. Let's just wait and see

Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 12/06/2017 14:30:05    1998492

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Replying To Weary:  "This Galway team isn't in the same parish as the 98 team. Nothing near it as far as I can see. Galway have lovely forwards but scored no more from play than Mayo yesterday. Still have to prove themselves in Croker on a big day against a big team. Beating a 14 man Mayo by a point in Salthill in July and not scoring for a large portion of the second half is not good. Let's just wait and see"
"Still have to prove themselves in Croker on a big day against a big team"

So it is like 98 then!

The_DOC (Galway) - Posts: 707 - 12/06/2017 15:05:06    1998525

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Replying To Liamwalkinstown:  "That's 2 in a row now. Mayo have still won f*ckall of note outside of Connacht so are Galway now ahead of Mayo?"
What a stupid remark about Mayo outside Connacht ! Where have you been for the last couple of years? Just because they were a kick of a ball from beating one of the greatest teams of all times......

michael (Cork) - Posts: 381 - 12/06/2017 15:13:20    1998531

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It's not always the best team that wins a game. Yesterday Mayo were the best team and lost. Credit to both teams for producing the best game of the year in Atlantic storm conditions ! By holding out against the better team (albeit minus one of their best stars) Galway showed they are fast catching up. The big difference is Galway haven't yet that hardened physicality and experience which Mayo have gained after such a long battle against the top teams of the country. But when they acquire that, my bet is that they will be even more successful than Mayo.

michael (Cork) - Posts: 381 - 12/06/2017 15:25:29    1998544

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Well they've beaten them twice in a row but you have to remember it's a derby. Galway have absolutely no fear of Mayo. Bad Galway teams have beaten good Mayo teams in one off games and vice versa. That's what can happen in a local derby.

Until Galway can get to a semi-final at least and perform in Croke Park they won't be considered as one of the genuine contenders.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2215 - 12/06/2017 15:43:54    1998563

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Replying To michael:  "It's not always the best team that wins a game. Yesterday Mayo were the best team and lost. Credit to both teams for producing the best game of the year in Atlantic storm conditions ! By holding out against the better team (albeit minus one of their best stars) Galway showed they are fast catching up. The big difference is Galway haven't yet that hardened physicality and experience which Mayo have gained after such a long battle against the top teams of the country. But when they acquire that, my bet is that they will be even more successful than Mayo."
Interesting opinion. It's not often you see the best team in a given game trail for practically the full game and only get back to within touching distance because their opponent didn't score for the third quarter.

But are Galway better than Mayo? Up to this point you'd have to say 'no' based on past form. But as any good logician can tell you, it is a logical fallacy to infer from the past on what may happen in the future. Let's see where both teams finish their summer.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 12/06/2017 16:09:27    1998585

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Replying To The_DOC:  ""Still have to prove themselves in Croker on a big day against a big team"

So it is like 98 then!"
No that Galway team of 98 was remembered for winning the All Ireland not for beating Mayo in Connacht. The circumstances at this stage of the season are the same that's were likeness ends.

Weary (None) - Posts: 249 - 12/06/2017 16:28:03    1998603

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thing is,mayo are an ageing team..

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 12/06/2017 16:32:31    1998608

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Replying To slayer:  "If I was given 50 Euro to go watch any football team in Ireland other than Limerick, it would be Galway. The way they play the game is refreshing and when they get their game right they are a fine side.

Not sure if they are better than Mayo to be honest. Put it this way, which tam is more likely to be in the All-Ireland final? Mayo.

Win or lose, you more often than not get a good game of football out of Galway."
meath and galway play a similar style to be honest.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 12/06/2017 16:34:44    1998611

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There is not much between them.. Galway have a superior forward line but are very suspect at the back. I think the opposite applies to Mayo. I would love to see them square off in Croker in August

unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 12/06/2017 16:56:27    1998623

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