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Second time this year a game had had to be postponed due to state of the pitch in Tyrone.
No more than ourselves this time last year, but we were getting slated for it and the laughing stock of the country but at least we had alternative plans in place for a back up.
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Replying To Cuckoosinging: "Second time this year a game had had to be postponed due to state of the pitch in Tyrone.
No more than ourselves this time last year, but we were getting slated for it and the laughing stock of the country but at least we had alternative plans in place for a back up." Brewster Park couldn't hold their game either so it shows how bad the rain was.
Can't control the weather. Frustrating I know for all concerned. Throw in was at 8 o'clock so it would off been difficult to move to a different ground.
The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 30/03/2017 13:35:13
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Replying To The_Fridge: "Brewster Park couldn't hold their game either so it shows how bad the rain was.
Can't control the weather. Frustrating I know for all concerned. Throw in was at 8 o'clock so it would off been difficult to move to a different ground." Brewster Park is very low and right beside the water though and is constantly flooded.
Healy Park doesn't have that excuse. The pitch doesn't seem to be completely flat and the water tends to lie in certain areas on it.
TakeyourPoint. (Tyrone) - Posts: 133 - 30/03/2017 14:10:41
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Replying To Cuckoosinging: "Second time this year a game had had to be postponed due to state of the pitch in Tyrone.
No more than ourselves this time last year, but we were getting slated for it and the laughing stock of the country but at least we had alternative plans in place for a back up." You seem to have a real bee in your bonnet about tyrones Healy Park and game postponement - not sure what the weather was like there but Brewster Park wouldn't be too far away and their game was called off also so can only presume the weather was pretty bad!
IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 30/03/2017 15:32:20
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Omagh has been like this for long-time not sure why they cant just re do the pitch .
Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 30/03/2017 15:51:29
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The rain was that bad yesterday around 6 I couldn't see 2 foot in front of me. It was that bad I was tempted to pull over and wait for it to clear a bit. Pitches aren't great but no pitch would have been able to deal with the amount of rain that fell from about 5 last night. I was playing on a 4g pitch last night and even it had puddles on it.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 30/03/2017 16:13:35
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Replying To Cuckoosinging: "Second time this year a game had had to be postponed due to state of the pitch in Tyrone.
No more than ourselves this time last year, but we were getting slated for it and the laughing stock of the country but at least we had alternative plans in place for a back up." It was Dublin that were put out at the last minute in last years home game. That is the reason for the national coverage and mockery Roscommon received.
yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11231 - 30/03/2017 17:01:46
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Replying To Dellboypolecat: "Omagh has been like this for long-time not sure why they cant just re do the pitch ." just relay the pitch during the summer months, its a safe enough bet there'll be no championship matches there anyway.
SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 30/03/2017 17:23:58
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i've said before that healy park pitch is not fit for purpose regarding county games or ulster council fixtures, good enough surface for club games. The stand blocks a lot of natural light and the sun most of the day due to the configuration of the pitch, which leaves that side of the pitch always damp and slippery. And no I wouldn't move the stand as a previous poster asked me when I complained about the pitch. It's not the first and won't be the last time games are called off and has been a regular occurrence especially double headers involving the county hurling team { or just an unfortunate coincidence } it's a shame really because it is a great ground and facilities just being let down by a pitch which seems to have very limited drainage due to the type of heavy soil based surface. Probably time to look about lifting the complete pitch and putting in a decent drainage system which is capable of clearing water and with any amount of rain above a drizzle leaves standing puddles. As some pictures show, the pitch isn't level with dips and hollows { and yes all pitches laid are designed to run excess surface water away to the sides by being crowned from the centre, look closely at croke park for instance and it looks like the top of a shallow angled pyramid } but this costs big money and for a club is probably not feasible and the pittance received from tyrone gaa probably just about covers the cutting costs. { look at the county accounts from the convention each year } It just doesn't look good on tyrone gaa sitting with a 6million quid centre in garvaghy you'd have thought they could have spent a hundred grand for a modern surfaced pitch in omagh similar to carrickmore's. Dungannon's oneill park is the same as healy park an older soil based pitch with poor drainage at times and also affected by the stand. Maybe it's to do with the soil structure but that would be a question for an agronominist { soil doctor / specialist }
bulmccabe (Tyrone) - Posts: 361 - 30/03/2017 18:13:16
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Replying To bulmccabe: "i've said before that healy park pitch is not fit for purpose regarding county games or ulster council fixtures, good enough surface for club games. The stand blocks a lot of natural light and the sun most of the day due to the configuration of the pitch, which leaves that side of the pitch always damp and slippery. And no I wouldn't move the stand as a previous poster asked me when I complained about the pitch. It's not the first and won't be the last time games are called off and has been a regular occurrence especially double headers involving the county hurling team { or just an unfortunate coincidence } it's a shame really because it is a great ground and facilities just being let down by a pitch which seems to have very limited drainage due to the type of heavy soil based surface. Probably time to look about lifting the complete pitch and putting in a decent drainage system which is capable of clearing water and with any amount of rain above a drizzle leaves standing puddles. As some pictures show, the pitch isn't level with dips and hollows { and yes all pitches laid are designed to run excess surface water away to the sides by being crowned from the centre, look closely at croke park for instance and it looks like the top of a shallow angled pyramid } but this costs big money and for a club is probably not feasible and the pittance received from tyrone gaa probably just about covers the cutting costs. { look at the county accounts from the convention each year } It just doesn't look good on tyrone gaa sitting with a 6million quid centre in garvaghy you'd have thought they could have spent a hundred grand for a modern surfaced pitch in omagh similar to carrickmore's. Dungannon's oneill park is the same as healy park an older soil based pitch with poor drainage at times and also affected by the stand. Maybe it's to do with the soil structure but that would be a question for an agronominist { soil doctor / specialist }" I feel your pain. We did a fantastic job on the Pearse Stadium pitch a few yrs ago even with an existing big debt largely created by a failed hurling centre of excellence. While the pitch took a few months to reinstate it never pools water and double headers like the upcoming one on Sunday are no problem. The stadium is one of the best facility wise in terms of plenty of toilet facilities with hot water etc. Access the big problem and this is unlikely to change anytime soon.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 30/03/2017 18:54:58
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Healy Park is a really fantastic ground to visit and has a great stand, facilities are very good as well. It is one of the better stadiums in my opinion. Surely the answer is to upgrade the playing surface and put in a better drainage system.
Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1874 - 30/03/2017 18:57:17
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Once heard a story that when they were working on the Healy Park ground that a digger (or some kind of heavy machine) sunk so deep into the surface that they could not retrieve it. I presume it was just a 'tall story' that grew legs with time. Did any Tyrone posters hear that tale (or indeed start it for a bit of a laugh)?
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 30/03/2017 20:21:12
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Replying To bulmccabe: "i've said before that healy park pitch is not fit for purpose regarding county games or ulster council fixtures, good enough surface for club games. The stand blocks a lot of natural light and the sun most of the day due to the configuration of the pitch, which leaves that side of the pitch always damp and slippery. And no I wouldn't move the stand as a previous poster asked me when I complained about the pitch. It's not the first and won't be the last time games are called off and has been a regular occurrence especially double headers involving the county hurling team { or just an unfortunate coincidence } it's a shame really because it is a great ground and facilities just being let down by a pitch which seems to have very limited drainage due to the type of heavy soil based surface. Probably time to look about lifting the complete pitch and putting in a decent drainage system which is capable of clearing water and with any amount of rain above a drizzle leaves standing puddles. As some pictures show, the pitch isn't level with dips and hollows { and yes all pitches laid are designed to run excess surface water away to the sides by being crowned from the centre, look closely at croke park for instance and it looks like the top of a shallow angled pyramid } but this costs big money and for a club is probably not feasible and the pittance received from tyrone gaa probably just about covers the cutting costs. { look at the county accounts from the convention each year } It just doesn't look good on tyrone gaa sitting with a 6million quid centre in garvaghy you'd have thought they could have spent a hundred grand for a modern surfaced pitch in omagh similar to carrickmore's. Dungannon's oneill park is the same as healy park an older soil based pitch with poor drainage at times and also affected by the stand. Maybe it's to do with the soil structure but that would be a question for an agronominist { soil doctor / specialist }" Bul my ole mucker, again there are points where I agree with you and others I disagree.
Agree Healy Park has excellent facilities, great stand, media centre, changing rooms are close to Croke park standards, toilet facilities good, nice bar in the club rooms etc.
Agree a club couldn't afford to re lay the pitch, would bankrupt them.
So that leaves our wonderful county board to do something about it. If they are charging the players £15 for kit I can't see them paying hundreds of thousands of pounds for a new pitch.
The stand issue I disagree with you or more that it is natural that a stand is going to cover a part of the pitch. The only solution would be to tear the roof of the stand which is ridiculous.
The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 30/03/2017 20:35:55
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Replying To bulmccabe: "i've said before that healy park pitch is not fit for purpose regarding county games or ulster council fixtures, good enough surface for club games. The stand blocks a lot of natural light and the sun most of the day due to the configuration of the pitch, which leaves that side of the pitch always damp and slippery. And no I wouldn't move the stand as a previous poster asked me when I complained about the pitch. It's not the first and won't be the last time games are called off and has been a regular occurrence especially double headers involving the county hurling team { or just an unfortunate coincidence } it's a shame really because it is a great ground and facilities just being let down by a pitch which seems to have very limited drainage due to the type of heavy soil based surface. Probably time to look about lifting the complete pitch and putting in a decent drainage system which is capable of clearing water and with any amount of rain above a drizzle leaves standing puddles. As some pictures show, the pitch isn't level with dips and hollows { and yes all pitches laid are designed to run excess surface water away to the sides by being crowned from the centre, look closely at croke park for instance and it looks like the top of a shallow angled pyramid } but this costs big money and for a club is probably not feasible and the pittance received from tyrone gaa probably just about covers the cutting costs. { look at the county accounts from the convention each year } It just doesn't look good on tyrone gaa sitting with a 6million quid centre in garvaghy you'd have thought they could have spent a hundred grand for a modern surfaced pitch in omagh similar to carrickmore's. Dungannon's oneill park is the same as healy park an older soil based pitch with poor drainage at times and also affected by the stand. Maybe it's to do with the soil structure but that would be a question for an agronominist { soil doctor / specialist }" Never knew a agronominist was a grass specialist. You learn something new every day.
The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 30/03/2017 20:37:21
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Replying To bulmccabe: "i've said before that healy park pitch is not fit for purpose regarding county games or ulster council fixtures, good enough surface for club games. The stand blocks a lot of natural light and the sun most of the day due to the configuration of the pitch, which leaves that side of the pitch always damp and slippery. And no I wouldn't move the stand as a previous poster asked me when I complained about the pitch. It's not the first and won't be the last time games are called off and has been a regular occurrence especially double headers involving the county hurling team { or just an unfortunate coincidence } it's a shame really because it is a great ground and facilities just being let down by a pitch which seems to have very limited drainage due to the type of heavy soil based surface. Probably time to look about lifting the complete pitch and putting in a decent drainage system which is capable of clearing water and with any amount of rain above a drizzle leaves standing puddles. As some pictures show, the pitch isn't level with dips and hollows { and yes all pitches laid are designed to run excess surface water away to the sides by being crowned from the centre, look closely at croke park for instance and it looks like the top of a shallow angled pyramid } but this costs big money and for a club is probably not feasible and the pittance received from tyrone gaa probably just about covers the cutting costs. { look at the county accounts from the convention each year } It just doesn't look good on tyrone gaa sitting with a 6million quid centre in garvaghy you'd have thought they could have spent a hundred grand for a modern surfaced pitch in omagh similar to carrickmore's. Dungannon's oneill park is the same as healy park an older soil based pitch with poor drainage at times and also affected by the stand. Maybe it's to do with the soil structure but that would be a question for an agronominist { soil doctor / specialist }" Never knew a agronominist was a grass specialist. You learn something new every day.
The_Fridge (Tyrone) - Posts: 2088 - 30/03/2017 20:37:21
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Replying To neverright: "Once heard a story that when they were working on the Healy Park ground that a digger (or some kind of heavy machine) sunk so deep into the surface that they could not retrieve it. I presume it was just a 'tall story' that grew legs with time. Did any Tyrone posters hear that tale (or indeed start it for a bit of a laugh)?" Heard that story a few days after the Tyrone - Cavan game was called off. Man that told me said there's a digger under the pitch somewhere and was adamant it's true. Hard to believe though
HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 520 - 30/03/2017 21:17:40
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