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Replying To janesboro: "alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:374 - 04/08/2016 17:52:32
again being disingenuous -please explain how
so they show 5 rugby games at weekends during the six nations.-no usually 4 -be nil in a few years
.cant remember the last time rte showed 5 gaelic football or hurling games on the same weekend... never have id say -was 5 games show weekend of munster final - 2 on sunday by rte mayo v fermanag on sat with 2 hurling qualifiers on sky
--2 seperate sports.. gaelic football on its own is a lot more popular than rugby and warrants more coverage
what more championship games could they show and when bear in mind sky have the 7pm slot - all the games involving the major teams are shown -also bear in in mind sky have a game most weeks and occassionally two -any extra games would be the lesser light which may not be of much interest to neutrals ." you hide behind meaningless stats...you deflect from the questions asked, yeah u20 and womens games are more popular than senior championship games..highly unlikely..connacht final replay, tyrone cavan replay, monaghan-longford, tipp-cork and donegal-monaghan replay...just some of the games our national broadcaster could have shown this year which people would be interested in...cork-longford with longford coming off a big win would have been interesting for some for instance also
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 04/08/2016 18:53:57
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the point originally made was in relation to a news broadcast..of course the usual suspects focused on deflect deflect deflect instead of actually acknowledging it as being an example of biased coverage
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 04/08/2016 19:04:45
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Alano - you hide behind meaningless stats.which meaningless stats -which meaningless stats
..you deflect from the questions asked,
yeah u20 and womens games are more popular than senior championship games. -did i say that - please show me the post where i said that -i would say GAA games way more popular
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connacht final replay, tyrone cavan replay, monaghan-longford, tipp-cork and donegal-monaghan replay...-these were all on the same times as other games (not sure about tyrone cavan) - dont think they can have live games clashing (can they)
Cork-longford -fair enough id have like to watch that one myself lano12 (Dublin) - Posts:378 - 04/08/2016 18:53:57 1
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 19:23:42
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alano -when would these games be put on - bear in mind they probably cant ahve two live games at same time - friday night maybe -sat 3pm ?- im all in favour of more live games myself
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 19:24:57
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It's a meaningless stat janesboro. -please explain how
Between now and next May I calculate that RTE will show 9 live games in hurling, football, camogie and ladies football combined so to say they show 2-3 games a week is misleading. -sorry i should two to three games per week in june and july and a bit of august
Think of the number of really entertaining games with big attendances throughout this period and it really is incredible how little will be on the national TV station.
--there will be lots of them - none bar the 9/10 games above will be on rte but -tg4 will have the ladies football, 6 minor games, 3 21s mathes plus maybe 2 club games per week up to december , then there will be around 4 games per week when leagues start.
-the game im most looking forward to is doon v ballybrowvn next week - although bit dissappinting doon may have some lads away -dont think it would have national appeal though
--there will be lots of really entertaining rugby and soccer games with big attendances throughout this period that wont be show on rte - i am moaning no - nearly all of them will be on tg4/sky or the bbc channels
does it really matter whether tg4 or rte show rugby or soccer or GAA no - once its on telly i can watch it
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 19:33:09
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alano as to why rte were showing stuff about munster and leinster yesterday - i dont know why and i dont care less maybe they though people were interested in watching it ( i wasnt) or maybe they are biased
best way to findout is to ring them up or email
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 19:35:13
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.janesboro made out that gaa was being shown more..reality is its not
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:378 - 04/08/2016 18:51:14 1895813
there is more gaa being shown on rte 34 live games versus around 23-25 rugby games
being 15 x6nations 2 club 3 autumn internationals plus i think (3 under 20s (wal/sco/ita and 1 womens (france))
tg4 show more live rugby than rte around 31 ish (one pro 12 game per week plus semis/final - under 20s world cup around 6ish) 3 ireland games plus 2 semis and final - they even showed scotland v italy 20s for some reason
look lads between rte tg4 and sky theres plenty of gaa soccer and rugby for us all to watch
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 19:43:34
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A few of the top topics on hoganstand forum tonight;
"The slow demise of Galway football"
"When was Gaelic Football last considered good"
"Rule changes to counter negative tactics"
"Provincial championships have to go"
"Leinster football a dead duck?"
"What's wrong with Down football??"
If we want to complain about rte negativity, how about looking at our own negativity aswell?
extranjero (Wexford) - Posts:115 - 20/07/2016 23:07:17 18873
people complain about RTE being all negative - heres some of the threads on first pages at them moment
-is the current gaa product worth the bother
-poor stuff from kerry clare
-stop the negativity
-the sky deal
-Do kerry foul more
-Do weaker counties get their fair share of frees at HQ
-cynical munster
RTE can be negative but it can be positive too , but then again there is negativity on the hoganstand website threads as well
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 19:50:37
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anyway lads in few years RTE wont be showing 6 nations and probably wont be showing any rugby -presume the 20s and womens will go as well , so any bias will then be rectified -and those of you wont dont like rugby will be happy
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 04/08/2016 19:55:06
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RTE give great coverage to GAA - huge amount of live games on tv and radio. Lots of highlight shows and radio 1 have fantastic coverage throughout the year of club and intercounty games.
On the other hand in rugby they have dropped the old Heineken cup, Pro 12, World Cup and soon 6 nations coverage.
This is the reality. To claim they have a pro rugby bias is pretty ridiculous
bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 04/08/2016 19:58:46
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Replying To alano12: " Replying To GreenandRed: "[quote=alano12: "[quote=janesboro: "Soma - That again is a disingenuous post. -please explain how -why do you say again - what other "disingenous" posts have i done
To say RTE show 2-3 championship games a week is as accurate as saying they show 3-4 6 nations games
-it is accurate they normally show 2 games at 2pm and 4pm on sunday and sometimes a saturday afternoon qualifier --next week they will have 3 games 2 camogie plus tipp v galway
-- they show 3 6 nations per week -plus usually either a 20s or womens game
-. I thought it has been proven that RTE show far more live rugby than live hurling,
-yes they show (i think) around 11 live hurling and around 20 football -bear in mind in few years the six nations wont be on rte
All the main hurling and football games involving the major teams are shown on either sky or RTE But what more championship games could they show and at what time - you could put some more games on at 3pm/5pm saturday. It would mostly be the lesser team which would have lesser interest. but that would inconvenience some supporters, plus would have effect on attendances. Lot more radio coverage of gaa than rugby on radio . Even though i enjoyed the game i dont think clare v limerick football would be of interest to too many neutrals" again being disingenuous..so they show 5 rugby games at weekends during the six nations..cant remember the last time rte showed 5 gaelic football or hurling games on the same weekend...2 seperate sports..gaelic football on its own is a lot more popular than rugby and warrants more coverage"
The 6 Nations on RTE used to pay for itself because they had a good sponsorship deals and a perceived wealthy viewing audience brought in good advertising revenue. Granted Ireland were only in 1/3 of 6 Nations games but how many football or hurling games outside semis and finals will have more viewers than an Ireland 6 Nations match?"]an ireland 6 nations match but what about the other games, what about the u20 and womens games?..again compare like with like...an ireland 6 nations game when we are going well is like an all ireland quarter final upwards...i have no issue with an irish 6 nations game receiving lots of coverage its warranted..that isnt the issue...janesboro made out that gaa was being shown more..reality is its not"]How can RTE show games that Sky have the rights for?
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 04/08/2016 20:10:18
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It's a basic principle of Television Journalism that the item you feel is most important is shown first. So whatever item RTE puts first is obviously the one they feel is most important. Bearing that in mind here are the details of the last 35 RTE 6.01 News and Sport programmes, that is from August 1st to yesterday September 4th.
First Sports Item.
1. Rugby - 12 times
2. GAA - 8 times
3. Soccer - 5 times
4. Boxing - 4 times
= 5. Athletics and Showjumping - 2 times each
= 7. Golf and Horse Racing - 1 time each
During this time there have been 4 AI Football Q-F's, 2 AI Hurling S-F's, 2 AI Football S-F's and we are on the run-in to today's Football Replay and tomorrow's AI Hurling Final. All but one of these matches attracted attendances of 50,000+, 3 will be 80,000+. On the other side of the argument there have been 3 Rugby Union warm-up matches, the 2 in Dublin didn't even attract 80,000 between them. The facts don't lie. Even at the height of the GAA season RTE 6.01 News and Sport still feels that Rugby friendlies are more important. QED.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:339 - 05/09/2015 12:01:09
Note the date - almost a year ago. Going round in circles!
jimski (Kildare) - Posts: 381 - 04/08/2016 20:19:30
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Replying To janesboro: "anyway lads in few years RTE wont be showing 6 nations and probably wont be showing any rugby -presume the 20s and womens will go as well , so any bias will then be rectified -and those of you wont dont like rugby will be happy" I expect and hope that RTE will have the pro12 games back by then, it is important for young kids that they are able see their heroes on the main tv station, and it's also important from a financial perspective for the players and teams. However I'd also hope the GAA is treated in a fairer manner on rte news by then.
Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 04/08/2016 20:53:49
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RTE 6.01 News and Sport. Thursday. Still no mention of this weekend's 3 biggest sporting fixtures. Hard to believe.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 04/08/2016 22:31:33
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Replying To jimski: "It's a basic principle of Television Journalism that the item you feel is most important is shown first. So whatever item RTE puts first is obviously the one they feel is most important. Bearing that in mind here are the details of the last 35 RTE 6.01 News and Sport programmes, that is from August 1st to yesterday September 4th.
First Sports Item.
1. Rugby - 12 times
2. GAA - 8 times
3. Soccer - 5 times
4. Boxing - 4 times
= 5. Athletics and Showjumping - 2 times each
= 7. Golf and Horse Racing - 1 time each
During this time there have been 4 AI Football Q-F's, 2 AI Hurling S-F's, 2 AI Football S-F's and we are on the run-in to today's Football Replay and tomorrow's AI Hurling Final. All but one of these matches attracted attendances of 50,000+, 3 will be 80,000+. On the other side of the argument there have been 3 Rugby Union warm-up matches, the 2 in Dublin didn't even attract 80,000 between them. The facts don't lie. Even at the height of the GAA season RTE 6.01 News and Sport still feels that Rugby friendlies are more important. QED.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:339 - 05/09/2015 12:01:09
Note the date - almost a year ago. Going round in circles!" Ah but I do love this going around in circles! Can't wait til September when the rugby season starts (not that I have any interest in it mind you!) and the start again of another 68 pages being added to this thread!
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 04/08/2016 22:41:10
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RTE 6.01 News and Sport. The programme that keeps on giving and not in a good way either. What an absolute shambles this evening's programme was. First tomorrow's two football QF's were introduced as follows 'the last of the two football semi-finals are set to be decided tomorrow in a double header in Croke Park. Mayo square up to Tyrone at 4 while the All-ireland Championd Dublin are putting their title on the line against Donegal at 6.' The last of the two football semi-finals???? Unbelievable stuff. But it got worse. After that it descended into pure farce as they then proceeded to show not a preview of tomorrow's matches but a preview of the hurling semi-final instead. But that's still not the worst of it. During that hurling preview Waterford's Paul Flynn was captioned as Donegal manager Rory Gallagher and Ken McGrath was captioned as Ross Munnelly of Laois.
Of course they apologised at the end but the upshot of it all is that tomorrow's two massive games with probably 70,000+ in attendance have not received one second of a preview from our so-called National Broadcaster. I thought showing a years out of date Kerry hurling preview was bad but this hits a new low in Irish broadcasting standards.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 05/08/2016 20:22:26
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I see it has now increased to 80,000+ for tomorrow's matches.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts: 355 - 05/08/2016 20:56:10
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Mediaman
Of course they apologised at the end but the upshot of it all is that tomorrow's two massive games with probably 70,000+ in attendance have not received one second of a preview from our so-called National Broadcaster.
Eh -they showed thank gaa its friday - id bet there will be previews on the radio tomorrow
I thought showing a years out of date Kerry hurling preview was bad but this hits a new low in Irish broadcasting standards.
Mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:342 - 05/08/2016 20:22:26 1
Bad error - but if you have a look at rtes wikipedia -this would suggest that it is not a "new low in irish broadcasting standards" --sure look we all (me included) make mistakes - could be worse they could have told us on wednesday we were within 36 hours of the All Ireland Football Qfs as per the post below -
Between Tuesday and Wednesday's RTE 6.01 News and Sport Gaelic Games received a grand total of 5 seconds coverage (Terry Hyland's resignation). This within 48 hours of the All-Ireland Hurling SF and within 36 hours of the All-Ireland Football QF's games that will bring over 100,000 spectators to Croke Park. Sport doesn't get much bigger.
mediaman (Antrim) - Posts:342 - 04/08/2016 09:55:38
Goin Croker Sunday myself to cheer on Limerick COYBIG Any predictions mediaman ?
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 05/08/2016 23:48:31
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Replying To mediaman: "RTE 6.01 News and Sport. The programme that keeps on giving and not in a good way either. What an absolute shambles this evening's programme was. First tomorrow's two football QF's were introduced as follows 'the last of the two football semi-finals are set to be decided tomorrow in a double header in Croke Park. Mayo square up to Tyrone at 4 while the All-ireland Championd Dublin are putting their title on the line against Donegal at 6.' The last of the two football semi-finals???? Unbelievable stuff. But it got worse. After that it descended into pure farce as they then proceeded to show not a preview of tomorrow's matches but a preview of the hurling semi-final instead. But that's still not the worst of it. During that hurling preview Waterford's Paul Flynn was captioned as Donegal manager Rory Gallagher and Ken McGrath was captioned as Ross Munnelly of Laois.
Of course they apologised at the end but the upshot of it all is that tomorrow's two massive games with probably 70,000+ in attendance have not received one second of a preview from our so-called National Broadcaster. I thought showing a years out of date Kerry hurling preview was bad but this hits a new low in Irish broadcasting standards." Like are these people well-paid professionals or not?!?! Is there no quality control? If you know anything about Gaelic Games you'd spot those mistakes from outer space. Can anyone provide examples of similarly blatant mistakes on soccer or rugby features? Like maybe a reference to Wayne Rooney playing for Chelsea or Dan Carter playing cricket for Australia?
keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 06/08/2016 04:24:06
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Replying To keeper7: "Like are these people well-paid professionals or not?!?! Is there no quality control? If you know anything about Gaelic Games you'd spot those mistakes from outer space. Can anyone provide examples of similarly blatant mistakes on soccer or rugby features? Like maybe a reference to Wayne Rooney playing for Chelsea or Dan Carter playing cricket for Australia?" Sure you'd never get RTE in outer space. Imagine trying to get the Martians to pay the licence!
GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 06/08/2016 10:47:42
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