GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 20/02/2017 19:48:05    1958870

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 20/02/2017 20:32:28    1958883

Because rugby is way less popular than gaa so why would they show as much? This seems lost on you consistently..2 documentaries about 2 test matches is a bit much..I'd hope Vodafone are paying rte a lot
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1719 - 20/02/2017 19:13:09 1958851

but they are showing a lot more gaa than rugby -30 plus games per yer - be no rugby on rte next year plus all th eextra programmes and far more radio coverage-

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 20/02/2017 20:33:54    1958884

Try to keep it civil janesboro. We're all grownups here.
Breffni39 (Cavan) - Posts:10892 - 20/02/2017 19:11:54

still waiting for you to tell me the rugby versions of thank gaa its friday or a rugby version of the geansai . or up for the match, or pairc life , or the henry shefflin one winning

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 20/02/2017 20:35:16    1958885

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 20/02/2017 20:44:34    1958889

Do posters feel the GAA should not allow their grounds to be used for the 2023 rugby world cup ? There was a piece in the Examiner last week about how the GAA were the big losers in opening up Croke Park to rugby

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 20/02/2017 20:56:15    1958895

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 20/02/2017 21:23:24    1958901

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 20/02/2017 21:44:23    1958911

sceptical (Cavan) - Posts: 544 - 20/02/2017 22:09:51    1958925

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 20/02/2017 22:11:47    1958927

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 20/02/2017 22:14:06    1958929

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 20/02/2017 22:16:03    1958930

Do you accept now after Ryle Nugent recent clarification that the only reason these games are shown is because the IRFU have reached a deal with RTE to maximise rugby exposure on the main tv station in Ireland?
Soma (UK) - Posts:1745 - 20/02/2017 21:23
ryles clarification referred to the under20s- i dont think he mentioned the womens , so i totally totally totally accept the 20s games are shown because of the IRFU deal, i assume a similar deal is in place for the womens as well , and fair dues to the irfu for getting this

can you now accept that the womens and under 20s games are shown because of the IRFU deal and not due to RTE favouring rugby over gaa?
I note you have not come up with any suggestions at to improve rtes gaa coverage

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 20/02/2017 22:26:19    1958935

A perspective from a limerick point of view

I go to games each week, kids go with me too they mad into it, watch all the bigs games on the box. Like kids the world over they love watching big games and follow their local teams munster and ireland in rugby, limerick in hurling and football and man u and ireland in soccer, we also support clubs in all 4 sports

Lets compare following Munster to following limerick
you got 6 guaranteed big european games , plus about 10 ireland ones
in 2016 Limerick hurlers and footballers had 3 championship games each - thats 16 v 6,-2017 will likely be the same
Munster have 28 league and cup games -10 of them in limerick
Limerick senior Gaa around 20 ish - maybe 9 in limerick - only big game in limerick th elast while was munster final

Almost all munster games will be on tv, most limerick games wont , footballers will get few mins highlights. The munster games even last year were getting around 8k for pro 12 when we were struggling. hurlers are getting a lot less , i was at limerick v westmeath football last week -most young munster games get more than what was at that game -

Munster play almost week in week out, limerick hurlers may get to league quarters -lose that - we wont be playing for around 4-6 weeks, lose to clare , we wont play for another 4, same for footballers, at start of season you know the munster season down to the week. I dont know when either limerick hurlers or footballers will be playing their second round championship game.

even last year when struggling munster would get around 8k per match- Limerick hurlers will be playing kerry offaly and galway (now a dead rubber) , in front of much smaller crowds, even if we were in division one we would havce 2-3 home games getting 8-10k

There is more big rugby games than gaa at the moment especially if your in limerick , so i can see how kids and parent may be swayed toward the game with the bigger crowds, also i can plan easier in advance as to what rugby games we will go to compared to gaa.
also being professional there is more of the rugby stars on the telly than the gaa ones (with the various media bans)

so maybe one way to get more coverage could be to have championship restructure involving more big games e.g let the league become the main championship - both hurling and football maybe integrate the provincials ala the jim mcguinness proposal, maybe its a rubbish idea but its certainly better than complaining about rugby on tv

taking the above post a bit further I also follow club rugby and gaa. Injuly the ulster bank league rugby fixtures are announced and bar weather postponements is adhered to so players and fans alike can plan around it, i support young musnter and can easily plan away trips,

in limerick we have 5 round robin games in senior hurling -we dont know when them games are going to take place yet - so right now i can plan what club rugby ill take the kids to for the next two months, but at present im waiting until i get the limerick leader on a thursday to see if theres a gaa game to go to the following weekend. So maybe listening to the various calls to a bit of structure to the club season may help . Certainly its better than complaining about rugby.

Neither post is designed to knock the gaa or to say in any way rugby is better than gaa (to me they are equally good) but they are just some observations from shannonside , in summary more big games and a bit more structure please -and lets have some improvement suggestion rather than whinging about rte covering rugby

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 20/02/2017 23:03:49    1958952

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 21/02/2017 03:58:58    1958972

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/02/2017 04:26:08    1958974

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12120 - 21/02/2017 10:22:30    1959037

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 21/02/2017 10:27:31    1959041

soma Glad to see you finally accept that some of the rugby shown on RTE is not because of public interest but is to raise the profile of the sport, a number of posters have been trying to explain this to you for a long time.

eh nobody has tried to explain this to mean the reasoning that is put out on this site for womens and 20s being shown is that rte is pro rugby and anti gaa , which is now clearly not the case

again i will ask can you now accept the womens and 20s games are shown because of the irfu deal and not due to rte preferring rugby over gaa?

my suggestion is that the gaa insist as part of the deal for senior championship is that more camogies games are shown including a separate highlights show, was at some limerick camogie games last year - tis brilliant stuff

Another suggestion was that instead of RTE only showing a handful of players pushing each other as they leave the field at halftime as a games highlight, they show scores from the game, especially when the said game included one of the goals of the season.
Soma (UK) - Posts:1746 - 21/02/2017 10:27:31

firstly the game you refer to i think was armagh v fermanagh , showing the pushing at half time was nonsense , id say something if it was a proper brawl but this was more pushing and mouthing than anything. They should have showed the scores

immediately prior to this they did an excellent report on the dublin v monaghan game showing some great scores (i was in dublin for a club game that day so i went to that game) , id have preferred they did the same for both matches

that armagh game was brilliant -i recorded it and watched it later

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 21/02/2017 11:53:22    1959087

on the comparing limerick v munster thing
the six limerick games only one had a big crowd that was v tipp , biggest crowd for footballers was 3k , last season the munster games even though struggling were better attended and were to me far more glamourous for a young set of eyes, this year with better results and better football being played the munster games are more glamourous and the kids are seeing more cj stander than cian lynch a lot more, last year we went to almost all the minor junior inter and 21s games involving limerick too, bear in mind some countines only do football so even less games to see , like all lads my lads see they see hurling the following day the play in the back and wanna be cian lynch or peter casey,

got to the stage last year where i started bringing the kids to games not involving limerick to satisfy our lust for big games . , munster final, all ireland semi, cork v tipp in thurles, clare v waterford, coz both they and i want to go to some big games. Most however wont bother and will stay at home , AS for football theres even less to watch down this way , there is a post on another thread ,

My son has not seen wexford play league hurling against tipp or the cats!!! I grew up on them games with wexford park buzzing. 
tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts:154 - 20/02/2017 18:33:11   1958827 

and due to geography games involving other counties are probably a lot less accessible for him/her than me. How is this fella going ot be inspired to play when he aint getting to see the great players on a somewhat regular basis

so again i think more bigger games may be the answer -more bigger games may lead to more coverage,

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 21/02/2017 12:08:39    1959091