who really cares about rugby..its a bit like Golf to me..i.e. its cool to be either playing it or following...a boring game where there is little or no kicking skill required except for putting the ball into touch from defense...drop kicks are as scarce as hens teeth..the obsession is with posession..boring boring boring...

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 07/02/2017 13:48:53    1953277

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts:5 - 07/02/2017 13:48:53 1953
who really cares about rugby. -the people who support and play it do
drop kicks are as scarce as hens teeth.. -are they really...hmmm ..each half starts with a drop kick, restarts, 22 metre drop outs, drop goals ......hmm very rare indeed!
the obsession is with posession..- a bit like football then! or soccer or basketball even hurling !

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 07/02/2017 14:44:23    1953299

Can the GAA survive the Rugby onslaught?

Judging by the Irish performance on Sat and the craic at the Cavan v Dubs game we will have no problem surviving.

Cavan_Slasher (Cavan) - Posts: 10253 - 07/02/2017 15:54:27    1953324

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 07/02/2017 16:53:12    1953349

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts:6 - 07/02/2017 16:53:12   1
at least the ball flies up and down the field in other sports..
does it ...really..... in football... handpass , handpass, short pass handpass, soccer, short pass short pass short pass-ball moves slowly and methodically upfield, basketball -short pass short pass short pass, shoot or draw a foul,
its not buried under a mass of grown men for 5/10 minutes at a time.. in watching rugby for over 30 years i have never seen such a scenario - please show me the url for some clip of a rugby match where a ball was stuck under a ruck,scrum or maul for 5/10 minutes, i cant wait to see this!!!!!!

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 07/02/2017 17:12:11    1953358

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts: 1034 - 07/02/2017 22:44:12    1953473

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 08/02/2017 00:24:14    1953491

Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts:7 - 07/02/2017 22:44:12   19
whats so great about a 18 or 20 stone man getting a ball and running straight into another player to flatten him???.

for some players thats the fun part of it the physicality, for others you can go around him or possibly over him
.the referee then starts shouting after a scrum something like this " number 8 stay....stay..stay"...or something similar...I cant get it to be honest..telling a player he cant go offside sounds funny...is it not up to the player to read that situation..
id agree with you on this -or telling a player who is offside to go back

no Ime not knocking it..everyone to their own...I would do away with this short kick out in football (and the short puck out in hurling)...that I do agree is ferocious to look at...the ball should have to pass at least the 45 or similar....Ime new to this forum..the debates are lively..
id like to see a rule tried where you cannot do two consecutive handpasses, do it on trial basis - will be replaced by short kicks but i think it could be an improvement

basketball?..there is a shot clock in basketball u realise?..scoring is key
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:1579 - 08/02/2017 00:24:1
most team ballsports are posession based, if you dont have the ball you cant score (own goal in soccer and safety in NFL/CFL being the exceptions)
three things id look at introducing from basketball (on trial basis first)
1- shot clock (inter county only) of 45 or 60 seconds
2 - once gone beyond halfway ball cannot be passed back
3- bring back rte basketball commentator timmy mccarthy into gaa he did a bit around 2009 ish, he was brilliant in the olympics with the shake and bake, downtown, coast to coast , downtown and boooooomhsackalacka!!

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 08/02/2017 09:43:06    1953535

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 08/02/2017 15:49:06    1953677

Each to their own. Soccer isn't only good when it's all out attacking for me. Can be some great defensive games. If you don't like 15-a-side go and watch League or 7s. Both good games to watch but the non-stop nature of those games at times can be boring to me. I'd prefer union because of the tactics. A team can have a lot of strengths in fast skilful backs but could be nullified by a team tactically slowing them down and rucking and mauling most of the game. I definitely see how that kind of play can be boring to some but I like it!

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7345 - 08/02/2017 16:35:38    1953698

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 09/02/2017 03:23:01    1953870

Interesting article in the IT today. The journalist seems to be putting a positive spin on how many players come from non-fee paying schools, and the total number of schools that contribute. I'd think the numbers confirm the stereotype. Only 36% from non fee paying schools given the huge number of non-fee schools versus fee paying. Also confirms rugby in Limerick is more of a sport for everyone and Connaught too. Or maybe they have identified an opening for fee-paying rugby schools in those areas!

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/role-of-fee-paying-schools-in-irish-rugby-only-half-the-story-1.2968566

himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 09/02/2017 11:02:09    1953916

who really cares about rugby..its a bit like Golf to me..i.e. its cool to be either playing it or following...a boring game where there is little or no kicking skill required except for putting the ball into touch from defense...drop kicks are as scarce as hens teeth..the obsession is with posession..boring boring boring...
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts:11 - 07/02/2017 13:48:53The thousands who play and watch games every week care.
There is loads of kicking skill required and kicking skills alone don't make a sport very entertaining. Passing skills/handling skills in rugby must be excellent to excel. Then you have all the technical aspects of the sport

at least the ball flies up and down the field in other sports..its not buried under a mass of grown men for 5/10 minutes at a time..there is too much made of rugby... it isnt that good of a game..
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts:11 - 07/02/2017 16:53:12When has there ever been a game of rugby where the ball has been buried for 5/10 minutes at a time??

I gave up watching years ago..and dont intend going back to gather proof...thats only my oppinion..your entitled to yours too...whats so great about a 18 or 20 stone man getting a ball and running straight into another player to flatten him???..the referee then starts shouting after a scrum something like this " number 8 stay....stay..stay"...or something similar...I cant get it to be honest..teblling a player he cant go offside sounds funny...is it not up to the player to read that situation..no Ime not knocking it..everyone to their own...I would do away with this short kick out in football (and the short puck out in hurling)...that I do agree is ferocious to look at...the ball should have to pass at least the 45 or similar....Ime new to this forum..the debates are lively..
Fairplayalways (Offaly) - Posts:11 - 07/02/2017 22:44:12 Having a referee telling players they cant go offside etc or to stay onside helps the game. Preventative communication speeds a game up.

Interesting article in the IT today. The journalist seems to be putting a positive spin on how many players come from non-fee paying schools, and the total number of schools that contribute. I'd think the numbers confirm the stereotype. Only 36% from non fee paying schools given the huge number of non-fee schools versus fee paying. Also confirms rugby in Limerick is more of a sport for everyone and Connaught too. Or maybe they have identified an opening for fee-paying rugby schools in those areas!
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/international/role-of-fee-paying-schools-in-irish-rugby-only-half-the-story-1.2968566
himachechy (Donegal) - Posts:62 - 09/02/2017 11:02:09Well numbers in that article are distorted by fact many kids moved to fee paying schools for 5th/6th year sometimes on scholarship from the school simply to play rugby and they are only listed as attending the fee paying school

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/02/2017 14:26:00    1953997

http://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2017/0209/851302-rte-to-show-all-irelands-womens-world-cup-games/

hope to see more womens sports receiving similar levels of coverage on the national broadcaster

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 09/02/2017 14:55:12    1954015

Well numbers in that article are distorted by fact many kids moved to fee paying schools for 5th/6th year sometimes on scholarship from the school simply to play rugby and they are only listed as attending the fee paying school

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts:12722 - 09/02/2017

You know those rating systems are flawed. They don't take in account houses that have more than two television sets and other things of that nature...

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 09/02/2017 15:57:49    1954052

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 09/02/2017 16:25:30    1954066

Well numbers in that article are distorted by fact many kids moved to fee paying schools for 5th/6th year sometimes on scholarship from the school simply to play rugby and they are only listed as attending the fee paying school

I'd be interested to see what the numbers are for that scenario. I can't see the fee paying schools dishing out too many free spaces. Even if that did account for a good number of these guys, it still seems pretty elitist that IRFU would encourage concentration of talent in these particular schools rather than encouraging player development via local clubs which any person can access

himachechy (Donegal) - Posts: 293 - 09/02/2017 17:30:55    1954089

I'd be interested to see what the numbers are for that scenario. I can't see the fee paying schools dishing out too many free spaces. Even if that did account for a good number of these guys, it still seems pretty elitist that IRFU would encourage concentration of talent in these particular schools rather than encouraging player development via local clubs which any person can access
himachechy (Donegal) - Posts:63 - 09/02/2017 17:30:55There would be quite a few and then there is a lot of kids whose parents will have them at school at home for junior cycle and save up over those years and they move for senior cycle
IRFU don't encourage the concentration of talent in these schools. Never have and never will.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 09/02/2017 17:40:58    1954095

See a schools match in rugby had three concussions and munchins college choose to pull the plug on the game

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 09/02/2017 18:56:31    1954124

bad.monkey (USA) - Posts: 4624 - 09/02/2017 19:15:27    1954132